I got the Fonderie Miniature (from now on I will refer to it as the FM) H-21 flying banana when it first came out a few years ago and I intended to build it right away. Of course then Special Hobby (they will be SH from now on) came out with there version of the same helo and I had to buy it as well. As time went on and I played with them both here and there I decided that I would build them both, but with some converting and creative plastic bashing. I am building the FM H-21 as an abandoned German machine and the SH H-21 as a Vietnam chopper in service.
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Tale of 2 H-21's
DougCohen
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 04:56 AM UTC
DougCohen
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 05:50 AM UTC
The SH kit (upper photo) has some interior detail so I just added some stuff, the FM kit (bottom photo) has less so more detail will be needed.
I will be opening the engine compartment on the FM kit so I will be adding detail to it as well, this is the start.
I will be opening the engine compartment on the FM kit so I will be adding detail to it as well, this is the start.
DougCohen
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:44 AM UTC
Lots of extra detail is needed on the interior of the SH kit, a lot of plastic bits and fine solder.
DougCohen
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 08:47 AM UTC
more on the SH kit details.
The radio rack is a good place to do detail.
there are some photo etched parts here and there.
The cockpit needs lots of detail as the nose is all glass and lots will be seen. The yellow parts are resin cast included in the kit.
The radio rack is a good place to do detail.
there are some photo etched parts here and there.
The cockpit needs lots of detail as the nose is all glass and lots will be seen. The yellow parts are resin cast included in the kit.
Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 09:00 AM UTC
Wow Doug!!!
great stuff!! Too bad you already built in all that stuff .. I would have liked a few resin copies of the cockpit/radio parts for my Flying Banana ....... still need to find the courage to continue mine (want to place CMK pilots in the pit, but sill need to add some detail)
all the best
Steffen
great stuff!! Too bad you already built in all that stuff .. I would have liked a few resin copies of the cockpit/radio parts for my Flying Banana ....... still need to find the courage to continue mine (want to place CMK pilots in the pit, but sill need to add some detail)
all the best
Steffen
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 09:58 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Wow Doug!!!
great stuff!! Too bad you already built in all that stuff .. I would have liked a few resin copies of the cockpit/radio parts for my Flying Banana ....... still need to find the courage to continue mine (want to place CMK pilots in the pit, but sill need to add some detail)
all the best
Steffen
Hey Steffen
Yes It would have been nice but I do not know how to do that stuff anyway. Just so you know I started on these two kits because of your build, but I did not want to crowd in on yours so I thought it would be best to do another.
DougCohen
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 05:50 AM UTC
Now some more work on the FM kit interior, and the engine compartment.
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 05:54 AM UTC
I am doing this one as an abandoned wreck so I will be doing some boxes in the radio compartment that are just thrown in and not connected to any thing.
DougCohen
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 05:56 AM UTC
some stuff needs to go in the engine compartment also like a fuel oil heat exchanger and such.
The aft cabin area gets some detail also, lots of solder and plastic bits.
The aft cabin area gets some detail also, lots of solder and plastic bits.
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 06:07 AM UTC
WOW!
That's a lot of details, I guess a cavern like the fuselage screams for them. I assume you're using solder for the conduits. Ehat are you using for the conduit clamps?
That's a lot of details, I guess a cavern like the fuselage screams for them. I assume you're using solder for the conduits. Ehat are you using for the conduit clamps?
DougCohen
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Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 07:38 AM UTC
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WOW!
That's a lot of details, I guess a cavern like the fuselage screams for them. I assume you're using solder for the conduits. Ehat are you using for the conduit clamps?
The clamps are just sheet lead cut to thin strips and glued on with CA.
DougCohen
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 04:13 PM UTC
I hope this does not get complicated me going back and forth, but here is some more progress on the cockpit of the SH kit.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 09:23 PM UTC
Beautiful! Really model making going on here! Love all the extra detail you're adding.
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Posted: Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 08:36 PM UTC
A M A Z I N G ! !
The interior is awesome amd the idea to make an abandoned aircraft is great.
I'll follow with great interest.
The interior is awesome amd the idea to make an abandoned aircraft is great.
I'll follow with great interest.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 01:54 PM UTC
The painting on the F.M. H 21 is starting with Tamiya paint and a oil wash of burnt umber to bring out the detail.
DougCohen
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 01:57 PM UTC
The engine for the F.M. kit, just a random resin radial part as it will only be partially seen.
Removed by original poster on 03/10/10 - 01:58:52 (GMT).
DougCohen
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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2010 - 01:19 PM UTC
engine now painted and installed in the FM kit.
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Posted: Friday, March 12, 2010 - 02:52 PM UTC
A few seats installed in the FM kit.
and the SH kit gets some also.
and the SH kit gets some also.
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Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 03:38 AM UTC
Well, Doug- all I can say is that this is a remarkable thread! I've got both these kits as well, and am buoyed up to see the level of care and detail you're giving them. The engine mount looks to be a ferocious bit of building- cheers! Tell me- do you have personal experience with the H-21, or just good references?
Thanks for posting all these great pics-
chuk
Thanks for posting all these great pics-
chuk
Posted: Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 05:16 AM UTC
Amazing is't enough, this is really great.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:23 PM UTC
More progress finally on the FM kit. I have not posted much on it for a while as it was a bear to get the fuse together. A lot of sanding and filling went into the seam and at long last it is ready to show to you guys. All I can say about it is take your time and od some other things in between the sanding so you dont get burned out.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:25 PM UTC
The rear rotor lump was a real chore but it is coming together now.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 01:26 PM UTC
Now I am in the middle of replacing all the panel lines that were removed while sanding and filling.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 03:21 PM UTC
The vertical and horizontal stabs are now on, I used the horizontals from the FM kit but the verticals came from the SH kit as I needed the larger ones for this helo and they were extra parts in the other kit.