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Mystery Albatros. part II
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Posted: Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 07:04 PM UTC
Now here is a tough one gentle folk. Name the pilot, unit (and if you can) probably time frame by month and date this image was taken.



The first to get it right and names their sources wins a WNW 1:32 Albatros D.V kit.. . .GO!

Just for a refresher remember the first thread?
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Posted: Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 10:05 PM UTC
Ok complete shot in the dark here.
Ltn Joachim von Busse's Albatross D.V 4460/17 , Jasta 3.
Andy
Source google, ended up at The Aerodorme.
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Posted: Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 10:39 PM UTC
Err could be Jasta 20 though .
Andy
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Posted: Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 11:12 PM UTC
Ok ignore the last two posts, after delving a little deeper I have come up with,
Hans Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein of Jasta 3.
He was a reserve officer in the 1st Hussars Regiment.
Andy
I'm going to stop looking now as my head hurts .
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 06:12 AM UTC

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Ok complete shot in the dark here.
Ltn Joachim von Busse's Albatross D.V 4460/17 , Jasta 3.
Andy
Source google, ended up at The Aerodorme.



Close Andy, but no cigar! Wrong man.
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 06:15 AM UTC

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Ok ignore the last two posts, after delving a little deeper I have come up with,
Hans Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein of Jasta 3.
He was a reserve officer in the 1st Hussars Regiment.
Andy
I'm going to stop looking now as my head hurts .
Andy



And your source?
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 06:25 AM UTC

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Ok ignore the last two posts, after delving a little deeper I have come up with,
Hans Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein of Jasta 3.
He was a reserve officer in the 1st Hussars Regiment.
Andy
I'm going to stop looking now as my head hurts .
Andy



And your source?


Sorry forgot to put that , http://www.frontflieger.de/, a German site covering German aviation during World War I, but you probably know that .
This site has been in my favourites for ages, and I stumbled onto the answer looking for the other pilot.
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 07:03 AM UTC

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Ok ignore the last two posts, after delving a little deeper I have come up with,
Hans Joachim Rogalla von Bieberstein of Jasta 3.
He was a reserve officer in the 1st Hussars Regiment.
Andy
I'm going to stop looking now as my head hurts .
Andy



And your source?


Sorry forgot to put that , http://www.frontflieger.de/, a German site covering German aviation during World War I, but you probably know that .
This site has been in my favourites for ages, and I stumbled onto the answer looking for the other pilot.
Andy



Excellent Andy!
Here is a clearer image of the man.
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 07:10 AM UTC
Nice one Stephen.
Have you got any more images of the plane, I could not find one image of the plane in question. I mean you would have thought a plane with "Hilde" in big bold letters on the side would get photographed more .
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 07:53 AM UTC

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Nice one Stephen.
Have you got any more images of the plane, I could not find one image of the plane in question. I mean you would have thought a plane with "Hilde" in big bold letters on the side would get photographed more .
Andy



I am sure that the family has a few more images of interest. PM me with your snail mail.
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 10:37 AM UTC

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on 2010-08-08 22:08, betheyn wrote:
Hi Stephen, . . .can you either re enter for another comp or donate it to someone else please. . .Andy :-)



Greetings Andy. I do have someone I could give the kit to. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Thine Stephen
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 05:50 PM UTC
Congrats Andy !

When i saw the post I spent 3 hours on line looking for the info , only to come back to find you beat to it ! Did ended up finding some great info though .

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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 07:59 PM UTC

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Congrats Andy !

When i saw the post I spent 3 hours on line looking for the info , only to come back to find you beat to it ! Did ended up finding some great info though .



Hi Terri,
I started looking for the info as I was intrigued by what was written on the side of the aircraft.
Might have to model this Albatros, err will have to buy one first one day .
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 10:50 PM UTC
4460/17 has lozenge covered wings by the way. I might have one in 1:48 . . .Hmmmm.
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Posted: Monday, August 09, 2010 - 06:38 AM UTC

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4460/17 has lozenge covered wings by the way


thanks Stephen.
Would I be correct in assuming that the fuselage would be wood coloured, with silver engine bay thingy bit and spinner.
What colour would the undersides of the wings be ?
Andy
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Posted: Monday, August 09, 2010 - 07:13 AM UTC

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4460/17 has lozenge covered wings by the way


thanks Stephen.
Would I be correct in assuming that the fuselage would be wood coloured, with silver engine bay thingy bit and spinner.
What colour would the undersides of the wings be ?
Andy



Engine bay thingy? Ok I am worried about you. Looks like the cowlings are very dark red or black maybe? undersurface of wings. . .lozenge.
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Engine bay thingy?


Had a brain freeze and forgot the correct term .
Now on your pic there seems to be two triangles (one above and in-between the H and the cross, and one on the top of the tail), is that just shadows or markings of some sort.
Thanks Stephen.
Andy
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