Early Aviation
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
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Aviation thru 1934
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 10:57 AM UTC
An early pic of Cartierville Airport at Montreal long before Dorval (now Trudeau) airport was built just a couple of miles off what became runway 24.Had Bleriot flown over it at the time this is how it looked to him way back when.Runway 24 was built almost 90deg to the road and on the left side of those series of tent like hangers.
DougN1
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 02:28 PM UTC
A couple of mine from a few years back:
1/48 Pyro Fury:
1/48 Pyro Gladiator:
Doug
1/48 Pyro Fury:
1/48 Pyro Gladiator:
Doug
Jessie_C
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 03:17 PM UTC
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Hi Jessie. Is that the dreaded Special Hobby 1/72? I tried a few years back to build that one..ended up in the ciruclar trash bin....Did not like the shape, the fit was awful!
Yes, indeed it's the Special Hobby kit. The fit was challenging, but that was par for the course with Special Hobby in those days. It's nothing compared to a Merlin kit, or a vac...
What about the shape didn't you like? It looks pretty much like an Electra to me.
mike_espo
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 03:59 PM UTC
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Quoted TextHi Jessie. Is that the dreaded Special Hobby 1/72? I tried a few years back to build that one..ended up in the ciruclar trash bin....Did not like the shape, the fit was awful!
Yes, indeed it's the Special Hobby kit. The fit was challenging, but that was par for the course with Special Hobby in those days. It's nothing compared to a Merlin kit, or a vac...
What about the shape didn't you like? It looks pretty much like an Electra to me.
Upper fuselage spine towards the rudders is too thin when viewed from the side:
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ww2planes/ww2-lockheed/46447/view/lockheed_l-10_electra/
Jessie_C
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 05:22 PM UTC
Okay, I can see that the drawing definitely shows the rear fuselage is thicker, but I don't think it makes the kit "fatally flawed". It still looks like an Electra. I suppose you could go all Gaston and insert a wedge of plastic, but that sounds too much like work to me
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 01:33 AM UTC
Great model of a beautiful airplane !
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 02:00 AM UTC
I was reading through the rules of an group build that is now going on I would like to comment on a very positive idea presented on that list.
I really like the idea of a ribbon for anyone who finishes .A wonderful accomplishment in itself.It is not a competitive thing other than than a self imposed one. A wonderful record of achievement.Hang it on your wall where you build your stuff It is not egotistical or wrong to do so but is a constant reminder to yourself of what you can achieve.I also keep all my early work as a reminder of just how far I have come down the road when I need a little self encouragement.
I also have on my wall,framed and readily visible, comments from artists that I admire the most and from other knowledable
individuals who's opinion that I respect.
I really like the idea of a ribbon for anyone who finishes .A wonderful accomplishment in itself.It is not a competitive thing other than than a self imposed one. A wonderful record of achievement.Hang it on your wall where you build your stuff It is not egotistical or wrong to do so but is a constant reminder to yourself of what you can achieve.I also keep all my early work as a reminder of just how far I have come down the road when I need a little self encouragement.
I also have on my wall,framed and readily visible, comments from artists that I admire the most and from other knowledable
individuals who's opinion that I respect.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 02:22 AM UTC
Our cut off date for this thread as I said before was extremely well researched.Although it does exclude most of the WW2 types it does allow for some of the early airliner type aircraft such as the DC2,Ford Tri-motor,Lockheed10,Boeing 247,among others.All of these aircraft were built by individuals that embody the spirit of early aviation.Love it!
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 02:36 AM UTC
In my diorama now on display at the CASM,"Keepers Of The Flame,1918-1929" I present a list of services offered by our company .It is posted on the exterior wall of the dispatch office and was meant to honor Jenny's contribution to early aviation in Canada.In future postings I will follow up on this in greater detail and talk about not only Jenny but other aircraft involved in the development of aviation here in Canada and the US during this era..
mike_espo
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - 03:17 AM UTC
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Okay, I can see that the drawing definitely shows the rear fuselage is thicker, but I don't think it makes the kit "fatally flawed". It still looks like an Electra. I suppose you could go all Gaston and insert a wedge of plastic, but that sounds too much like work to me
Yes. I agree. I tried to use strip styrene, did not work. Too bad cause I scratchbuild the interior for Earhart's E model with Aux fuel tanks and chart table...
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 01:01 AM UTC
In the pic above there is a sign listing Jenny's contribution to aviation here in Canada before 1934.(and in a more limited role after.)The list is also a list of roles that airplanes played in the US and the world in general by the "Keepers of the Flame".By the word "Keepers " I mean both both men and machines.The world of aviation owes a lot to the airplanes and men of this era.From Kitty Hawk to the moon in 60 odd years would not have been possible without their wonderful and often dangerous contribution.We often here of the myth of the cowboy but these guys actually lived it.Freedom,danger,sleeping in the open under the wing of their airplanes,they did it all and for not much pay or recognition from the public in general.Many WW1 airman accomplished their most thrilling and dangerous missions during this era after the war.Cheers to them all !
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2012 - 02:04 AM UTC
deleted by me.
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2012 - 02:13 AM UTC
Tail wheel assembly from a Waco UPF on a Precissi Travel Air.
Photo from around 1930,photographer unknown.
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, February 03, 2012 - 02:26 AM UTC
With the advent of hard surface runways tail wheels and brakes became a necessity.Prior to this time a tail skid provided both friction for stopping power and directional control.It wasn't until the early 30's that they became a popular installation on future aircraft and a much needed modification on the older types.
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2012 - 05:34 AM UTC
Photographer unknown.
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2012 - 06:04 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 10, 2012 - 06:39 AM UTC
This is my version of a old barnstormers towcar from the diorama "Keepers of the Flame",that has been left out back of the hangar where it is slowly rusting away.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 12:25 AM UTC
photographer unknown
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 12:34 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 12:39 AM UTC
Advertising for airshows was often accomplished by dragging a sign down main street or flying low over a town.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 12:45 AM UTC
here is mine.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 01:11 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 01:14 AM UTC
This is the pit of the more modern tow car conversion of an old Mercedes.The deck and grab bar at the rear was used for car to airplane transitions.
dolly15
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Posted: Monday, February 13, 2012 - 12:14 AM UTC
Pic by Northern Light Aviation