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Naval Aces of World War 1 part 2
Mecenas
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 08:31 AM UTC
Official website of the Osprey Publishing reveals a new release of an early aviation related book in the well-known "Aircraft of the Aces" series: "Naval Aces of World War 1 part 2."



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JackFlash
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 12:43 PM UTC
Very timely! Part one was a jewel. I really look forward to checking this out.
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 09:44 PM UTC
"Der fliegende Kriegsmarine"?!
It is "Die fliegende Kriegsmarine". Wrong gender in the article. Hurts the eye about the same way as reading "He went down with all hands" in a book about the Hood.
Sorry, but if they cannot get their German right in a chapter heading, I'll pass on that one...
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Posted: Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 09:51 PM UTC
This one is looking very tempting (as does pt1) Love the cover art. I feel a trip over to Osprey's web-shop is coming on soon!

Mikael
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Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 - 07:12 AM UTC

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"Der fliegende Kriegsmarine"?!
It is "Die fliegende Kriegsmarine". Wrong gender in the article. Hurts the eye about the same way as reading. . .Sorry, but if they cannot get their German right in a chapter heading, I'll pass on that one. . .




Finster ist die Nacht Matrosenlied Matrosenchor der Kriegsmarine Berlin (transliterated) = The sailor song, sailor choir of the Kriegsmarine Berlin, night is dark
http://youtu.be/gzFu4VHQC8o


Der fliegende Kriegsmarine = The flying Navy (masculine)

Die fliegende Kriegsmarine = The flying Navy (feminine)

Organizations are masculine in 1918 German vocabulary. Modern revisions tend to make organizations either neuture or Feminine.

Das fliegende Kriegsmarine = That flying Navy (neuture)

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Posted: Friday, February 24, 2012 - 07:35 AM UTC
German is a bit tricky. I know, as I did 6 years of it in school... And I still could not master der, die, das properly. Heres a link thats interesting on the subject: german lesson

A fast google check does give the answer that Der Kriegsmarine is right, at least during WWII, so my guess is that the chapter heading is correct!

My two pfenning on the subject.

Mikael
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 05:54 AM UTC
It's even trickier than you think.
The article changes with the case of the noun.

nominative:
the flying Kriegsmarine is great = die fliegende Kriegsmarine ist großartig
genitive:
aircraft of the flying Kriegsmarine = Flugzeuge der fliegenden Kriegsmarine
dative:
our lives to the flying Kriegsmarine = unsere Leben der fliegenden Kriegsmarine
accusative:
we love the flying Kriegsmarine = wir lieben die fliegende Kriegsmarine

What you find when you google "der Kriegsmarine" is just genitive or dative case, like "Schiffe der Kriegsmarine" (ships of the Kriegsmarine).

Tricky? not if you grow up with it. German has only four cases, Russian has six...
Believe me: "Kriegsmarine" has NEVER been a male word.

JackFlash
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 08:51 AM UTC
Then there is the separable verb at the end of sentences.
JackFlash
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Posted: Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 04:49 AM UTC
Mine has arrived. Review in progress.

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