Start Here (for Beginners)
This forum is for younger modelers or people just starting out in the hobby.
This forum is for younger modelers or people just starting out in the hobby.
Hosted by Jim Starkweather
First Models
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 03:29 AM UTC
Gundam sorry, posting on phone! Can't wait to go back and improve these builds now
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 06:23 AM UTC
Dont know why but i cant seem to edit my posts anymore.
Sorry for all the tiny posts and typos i was using a phone.
Would i be better off buying testors dullcote in a bottle and thinning it for airbrush rather than using a can? assume it would last a lot longer.
Sorry for all the tiny posts and typos i was using a phone.
Would i be better off buying testors dullcote in a bottle and thinning it for airbrush rather than using a can? assume it would last a lot longer.
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/princess22.jpg)
Jessie_C
![Contributor's Award - This member has contributed content to AeroScale in the past year.](../images/aeroscale_contributor.gif)
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/ca.gif)
Joined: September 03, 2009
KitMaker: 6,965 posts
AeroScale: 6,247 posts
![Field Marshal](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/10_11.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 06:42 AM UTC
You can only edit your posts for a short time, then it goes away ![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Yes, using dullcote with your airbrush is far superior to using it from a spray cay; you'll have a great deal more control of how much you apply that way.
![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Yes, using dullcote with your airbrush is far superior to using it from a spray cay; you'll have a great deal more control of how much you apply that way.
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 07:11 AM UTC
So this is a good final coat?
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/testors-134oz-bottle-dullcote-varnish-mm1160x-p-42247.html
Money is an issue at the moment, i dont mind buying things if they last but i dont want to buy the wrong things![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/smile.gif)
the description says dullcote but the bottle does not, im not having much luck
http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/testors-134oz-bottle-dullcote-varnish-mm1160x-p-42247.html
Money is an issue at the moment, i dont mind buying things if they last but i dont want to buy the wrong things
![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/smile.gif)
the description says dullcote but the bottle does not, im not having much luck
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/princess22.jpg)
Jessie_C
![Contributor's Award - This member has contributed content to AeroScale in the past year.](../images/aeroscale_contributor.gif)
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/ca.gif)
Joined: September 03, 2009
KitMaker: 6,965 posts
AeroScale: 6,247 posts
![Field Marshal](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/10_11.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 07:23 AM UTC
Well the description says dullcote but the picture says glosscote. I recommend that you do your paint shopping in the hobby shop rather than online, to avoid getting shipped the wrong choices.
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 07:31 AM UTC
Problem is theres no model shops near me. Sadly the one in my town is never actually open, other than that its 45mins drive and fuel costs take there toll, plus thats a modelzone and the shop prices are twice that of online.
In fact i went there for my first tools etc and got ripped off lol, il email the company i guess, your right though it would be nice to be able to use a store![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/smile.gif)
In fact i went there for my first tools etc and got ripped off lol, il email the company i guess, your right though it would be nice to be able to use a store
![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 - 10:38 PM UTC
I know exactly how you feel, my LHS has disappeared and I have to go out of my way now. Don't try to figure out all these techniques in one model start by getting seams and filling right, if you don't do that, all the rest is wasted. Clear coating will definitely improve your decals along with using Microset. Also, there is a sense of achievement in getting a presentable model out of a rubbish kit. Finally, you have already come a long way in three models, keep going and enjoy each model as you build it and learn a new technique each time, you don't have to spend a fortune, there are some excellent kits out there for reasonable prices
![](https://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/19815/thumbs/images7.jpg)
warreni
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/au.gif)
Joined: August 14, 2007
KitMaker: 5,926 posts
AeroScale: 2,201 posts
![Field Marshal](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/10_11.gif)
Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 03:52 AM UTC
Quoted Text
im getting confused by all the gloss/varnish/wash talk all over the internet.
is this a basic run down ?
Primer>preshade>base colors>microgloss(varnish?)>Details and washes>decals>matt klear coat
never thought painting could be so complex, my brain feels like its melting.
Just to muddy the waters a bit more, I never Future or gloss models before applying the decals. Seems silly to me to gloss the whole thing when it is supposed to me matt so I just apply a little decal setting solution to the matt paint and I rarely have trouble with silvering.
Also, regarding panel lines, go and have a look at a real aircraft and see if you can see any. Bet you can't from even 10 feet away especially with well maintained air force planes. Even with dirty aircraft being flown in war zones will not show many panel lines, just boot prints from technicians climbing all over them and dust, dirt and grime from not being washed very often.
Remember building models is supposed to be fun and if you don't want to do something to it don't. The world won't end.
![](../modules/SquawkBox/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Just my two cents worth.
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 04:07 AM UTC
I just got some more supplies delivered including some putty. So im ready for any poor fitting models. Also ordered some microgloss, and tonight Il order setting solution, some washes and some testers dullcote. I am buying a lot but I am loving it! after this order I pretty much have everything I need, still have a spitfire, hurricane, and 2 bombers who's names elude me, maybe Handley page and battle fairey or something.
![](../images/avatar/000.gif)
Neemo83
![_VISITCOMMUNITY](../images/flags/uk_1524.gif)
Joined: March 23, 2013
KitMaker: 19 posts
AeroScale: 17 posts
![2nd Lieutenant](../modules/SquawkBox/images/levels/rank.2nd_lt.gif)
Posted: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 05:46 AM UTC
I got my microgloss and thinned it with acrylic thinners, used airbrush but it came out very grainy. any idea what im doing wrong? Maybe too high or low psi?
![]() |