Thank you for your kind words...
Jean-Luc
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Eduard Spitfire Mk.IX early build log.
TedMamere
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 06:58 PM UTC
Hi all,
Thank you for your kind words...
Jean-Luc
Thank you for your kind words...
Jean-Luc
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 07:54 PM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc
I've really enjoyed following your build - as I've said before, some of your finishing techniques are inspirational (I learn so much with each new build you present) - and the speed at which you've managed to do all this is astonishing!
In the interests of constructive criticism, I'll risk being something of a voice in the wilderness and say I think some of the final weathering may be a tad too strong in my opinion for this particular subject - but you truly are a master of your art.
All the best
Rowan
I've really enjoyed following your build - as I've said before, some of your finishing techniques are inspirational (I learn so much with each new build you present) - and the speed at which you've managed to do all this is astonishing!
In the interests of constructive criticism, I'll risk being something of a voice in the wilderness and say I think some of the final weathering may be a tad too strong in my opinion for this particular subject - but you truly are a master of your art.
All the best
Rowan
TedMamere
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 05:16 AM UTC
Hi Rowan,
I have asked myself the same question once the model was finished. I got a bit carried away experimenting with new techniques. Maybe I will do a little less for the next one. I will see at the Siegen expo if other people feel the same when they see the model in the flesh.
Jean-Luc
P.S. You don't have to wear glasses to say something like that to me...
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In the interests of constructive criticism, I'll risk being something of a voice in the wilderness and say I think some of the final weathering may be a tad too strong in my opinion for this particular subject - but you truly are a master of your art.
I have asked myself the same question once the model was finished. I got a bit carried away experimenting with new techniques. Maybe I will do a little less for the next one. I will see at the Siegen expo if other people feel the same when they see the model in the flesh.
Jean-Luc
P.S. You don't have to wear glasses to say something like that to me...
raypalmer
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 10:05 AM UTC
Jean Luc, I apologise in advance you must be asked this a lot. Is there a step by step anywhere for your chipping method?
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 10:39 AM UTC
Hi Richard,
No, I did no real step by step for this method but I'm playing with the idea of doing some videos of the various techniques I use. The only problem is that I have to find the time to do them...
Jean-Luc
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Jean Luc, I apologise in advance you must be asked this a lot. Is there a step by step anywhere for your chipping method?
No, I did no real step by step for this method but I'm playing with the idea of doing some videos of the various techniques I use. The only problem is that I have to find the time to do them...
Jean-Luc
Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 10:41 AM UTC
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P.S. You don't have to wear glasses to say something like that to me...
Hi Jean-Luc
The glasses were meant to signify sunglasses - i.e. I'm dazzled by the quality of your work.
All the best
Rowan
raypalmer
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Posted: Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 11:21 AM UTC
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Hi Richard,Quoted TextJean Luc, I apologise in advance you must be asked this a lot. Is there a step by step anywhere for your chipping method?
No, I did no real step by step for this method but I'm playing with the idea of doing some videos of the various techniques I use. The only problem is that I have to find the time to do them...
Jean-Luc
Well it's eagerly awaited. Your method delivers unrivalled results!
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, May 04, 2013 - 11:15 AM UTC
Jean-Luc, I just read through your entire build log, and it's one of the best builds I've seen in quite some time. You're overall weathering is what I like to term: Used but not
Abused. Looking forward to following more of your builds.
Joel
Abused. Looking forward to following more of your builds.
Joel
paolo1968
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2014 - 06:38 AM UTC
Hello there and hello to all, my first post here.
Dear Jean-Luc, I think that your chipping technique is really astounding.
But the question is: how do you create that? I mean they are lighter tones of main colour?
But you paint chips with brush?
If you could explain that I'll be really grateful.
(Maybe there's an article and I don't know)
Thank you in advance
Paolo
Dear Jean-Luc, I think that your chipping technique is really astounding.
But the question is: how do you create that? I mean they are lighter tones of main colour?
But you paint chips with brush?
If you could explain that I'll be really grateful.
(Maybe there's an article and I don't know)
Thank you in advance
Paolo
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 09:22 AM UTC
Hi Paolo,
Welcome to Aeroscale...
Sorry for the late reply, I'm very busy at the moment...
Yes, the paint chipping was done with a small brush (Tamiya 000) by applying lighter tones of the camouflage colors. It's basically the same technique used by the armor guys and also by the "Spanish School" modelers. However it is rather difficult to explain and like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
All the best to you,
Jean-Luc
Welcome to Aeroscale...
Sorry for the late reply, I'm very busy at the moment...
Yes, the paint chipping was done with a small brush (Tamiya 000) by applying lighter tones of the camouflage colors. It's basically the same technique used by the armor guys and also by the "Spanish School" modelers. However it is rather difficult to explain and like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
All the best to you,
Jean-Luc
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 11:38 AM UTC
Many modellers get the "chipping" wrong on Spitfires, and it's nice to see something more restrained than usual. The metal was anodised (which made it grey) during construction, then painted with a grey primer, then painted with the camouflage colours.
A couple of small points, if I may:-
The walkway lines never went across the roundels (in fact nothing was supposed to encroach on the roundels,) and the "walkway inboard" should be the other way round, since it was supposed to be readable from the wingtip. Also (and so many manufacturers are foxed by post-war applications) the non-slip pad, on the port wingroot, was painted over during the war, so shouldn't be black.
Apart from those minor niggles, it's an incredible piece of work.
Edgar
A couple of small points, if I may:-
The walkway lines never went across the roundels (in fact nothing was supposed to encroach on the roundels,) and the "walkway inboard" should be the other way round, since it was supposed to be readable from the wingtip. Also (and so many manufacturers are foxed by post-war applications) the non-slip pad, on the port wingroot, was painted over during the war, so shouldn't be black.
Apart from those minor niggles, it's an incredible piece of work.
Edgar
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 - 02:02 PM UTC
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...like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
I'd love it if you could do a "How To" feature. That may take less time than a video, because you could simply take pictures the next time you do a model using that technique.
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 01:49 AM UTC
[quote
Yes, the paint chipping was done with a small brush (Tamiya 000) by applying lighter tones of the camouflage colors. It's basically the same technique used by the armor guys and also by the "Spanish School" modelers. However it is rather difficult to explain and like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
All the best to you,
Jean-Luc [/quote]
Went back and looked more closely at your chipping/paint wearing method. It looks so realistic that it doesn't jump out at your like chipping with Aluminum or Silver paint usually does. It's so much more subtle. Well done.
Joel
Yes, the paint chipping was done with a small brush (Tamiya 000) by applying lighter tones of the camouflage colors. It's basically the same technique used by the armor guys and also by the "Spanish School" modelers. However it is rather difficult to explain and like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
All the best to you,
Jean-Luc
[/quote]Went back and looked more closely at your chipping/paint wearing method. It looks so realistic that it doesn't jump out at your like chipping with Aluminum or Silver paint usually does. It's so much more subtle. Well done.
Joel
paolo1968
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2014 - 04:04 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Paolo,
Welcome to Aeroscale...
Sorry for the late reply, I'm very busy at the moment...
Yes, the paint chipping was done with a small brush (Tamiya 000) by applying lighter tones of the camouflage colors. It's basically the same technique used by the armor guys and also by the "Spanish School" modelers. However it is rather difficult to explain and like I said earlier in the thread I really should do a video about it. But I have sadly no time currently.
All the best to you,
Jean-Luc
Thank you for your answer, I am very impressed by the quality of your work, as it gives a real sensation of weathered stuff but leaving the whole picture very "clean".
I can see from the pictures and by your words that you apply scratches painting them with a 000 brush using a lighter tone of the colour you want to weather. But even if it gives a REALLY satisfactory result, maybe it's so not "realistic".
I mean: if I scratch an aircraft paint, I should have the undercoat visible, that Edgar says in Spitfire is always gray (not a lighter tone). Then if I scratch undercoat also I will have metal colour.
Anyway, I do like the appearance you are able to give your models, and I am looking forward to seeing your video or, if it's possible, a How-to step-list before?
Thank you again
Ciao
Paolo
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Posted: Sunday, January 12, 2014 - 09:11 AM UTC
The only big mistake Eduard have made with the markings is that 'Pat' did not have stripes under the wings.
At that time the squadron's Spitfires only had stripes on the under side of the fuselage.
Note the typical appearance of the bombs. The fins were transported in protective cylindrical cases hence the pristine condition. Not so the bombs which soon became heavily weathered. They could even be different shades of green as the were manufactured separately.
I only discovered this photograph a few months ago. Shows the style of stencilling used inside the door and the colour of the crowbar. Useful if you want to have the door open.
Chipping is mostly confined to a narrow strip where the wing meets the fuselage. The reason being …...
A canvas mat was used to protect the wing's surface.
The non-slip pad was black, not painted over and exactly as depicted by Eduard on the instruction sheet. In this it was not in any way peculiar or an anomaly. There are a great many photographs of Spitfires with black non-slip patches to be found. These are just a very small selection of them.
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