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Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
KotS III GB Albatros D.Va
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 04:17 AM UTC
Hello lads and ladettes. Been a long time since of posted here mainly because I have not done a string bag in a while. But here we go again. I am building another D.Va for a WWI aviation group build over at FSM. Figured I’d come back and say hi to some old friends. Been lurking here quite often though and still impressed with the quality of work here.


Pretty basic WIP so far…





I just love these wee little spark plugs.







The latest plywood test



My only 2 bipes have had the lozenge so I have a question on this scheme. What kind of edge on the camo? A hard masked edge or a tight feathered edge?


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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 04:24 AM UTC
Wow, Marc. I have two V's and a Va in the stash, but certainly cannot raise you. Very well done, indeed!!! Will keep looking for more. Ben
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 06:43 AM UTC
Hi,

it is a really outstanding built...!!!

Congrats...

Diego
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 07:08 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hello lads and ladettes. . .My only 2 bipes have had the lozenge so I have a question on this scheme. What kind of edge on the camo? A hard masked edge or a tight feathered edge?




As a general rule for most airframes.
Hard edge = in the field application or factory (especially when they got behind in contract orders).

Soft edge = Binks spray gun in the factory.
wing_nut
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Posted: Friday, May 03, 2013 - 09:35 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys. And thanks for the info. Buity how doe sone know whoch it is? See ms in there is a possibilty of a factory or filed "spray" job it is likley I'll be pretty safe with that. Good... that's what I wanted to do anyway
Mobious
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2013 - 05:28 AM UTC
Nice work, the ply wood effect looks awesome.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2013 - 09:43 AM UTC
Jack, thanks for the transfer

Mobious, thanks for the comment. Appreciate it.

This is where I am at the moment…

Dot filter on the upper wing for streaking and fading. If you’ve not heard of this it is a very common technique used by armor guys. When I went for all aircraft all the time to armor I had never heard of it. One side of each rib is shaded with alight spray of Tamiya Smoke.




The plywood application… base color is a very lightened Tamiya Buff and the back of the wood grain paper has been coated with MIG Natural Wood pigment.





Thin coats of clear yellow applied.






With some of the decals applied.


And nails… lots and lots of nails.




I am going to be using this little gem from Gaspatch as well as their turnbuckles.





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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2013 - 10:26 AM UTC
Brilliant work so far!
Gary
Mobious
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2013 - 12:59 PM UTC
Very nice. Thanks for sharing the "How to Wood Grain". Everything is looking great. Be staying tuned in for updates.
wing_nut
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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 04:24 AM UTC
Gary, Mobious... thanks guys.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 10:29 PM UTC
Marc – very nice textures and execution of wood and your dot filtering is first rate! Love the result (I learned the same technique from an armor builder)

Mikael
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Posted: Thursday, June 06, 2013 - 11:58 PM UTC
Thanks Mikael.

Still very busy with jobs but managing to find a few minutes here and there to get things done. Got the LG installed and rigged. MGs and exhaust on the motor. If you recall the alignment jig i made using the holes for the cabanes struts on the bottom of the upper wing and the previous D.Va, here it is in use again.






Mobious
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Posted: Friday, June 07, 2013 - 04:18 AM UTC
The woodwork is amazing. Nice work on the engine and the MG's. I got ask, are the LG struts plastic?
wing_nut
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Posted: Friday, June 07, 2013 - 12:22 PM UTC
Thanks mobious. yes they are plastic. And bloody fragile until you get them on. If you look at the right rear strut it's gray. I snapped that early on. Drilled, pinned and sanded... just needs a dab of paint. The rigging actually makes it pretty sturdy.
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Posted: Sunday, June 09, 2013 - 01:25 PM UTC
Marc,
Absolutely beautiful work, and a very attractive scheme. Looking forward to the completion phase!
Cheers,
Lance
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 03:46 AM UTC
Hey Lance. Thanks for stopping in and appreciate comments.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 04:08 AM UTC
Another "gem" Marc. I just wish with all the info we have on Jasta 14 that we could nail down the pilot.


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"Albatros D.Va serial unknown Jasta 14 pilot is unknown. May - July 1918. From Greg VanWyngarden - ". . .The original (or at least one original) is in the Bayerische Kriegsarchiv. The lengthwise black/white stripe on the fuselage identifies this machine as a Jasta 14 aircraft - or at least, it served in that unit at one time. This photo has long been a puzzle. There's little doubt that the fellow in the photo is actually Ltn. Wilhelm von Poschinger, who never (AFAIK) served in Jasta 14. He did serve in Jasta 12, and (according to Rick Duiven and Mückler) came to Jasta 32b on 27 March 1917. He served as the OzbV ( the Officer for special duties) from 27 May 1917 to 29 June 1917 (or 17 July 1917 according to Mueckler) when he left the unit, either for FA 296A or FEA 1b. However, he seems to have returned to von Schleich's Jagdgruppe 8b staff, as he appears in the well-known series of group photos taken at Epinoy on 8 June 1918. I would assume (which is always dangerous) that he was simply posing in front of the Jasta 14 Albatros D.Va for that photo above, but I don't know the time or location. As you say, Ltn. Gustav Freiherr Vogt von Hunoltstein (gen Stein-Kallenfels) also served in Jasta 32b as OzbV, coming from FA 296A in September 1917. He too, appears in those group photos, which may be where the confusion came from. Sorry, but I don't know which Jasta 14 pilot flew that particular Albatros D.Va - but I really doubt that it was either von Poschinger or von Hunoltstein."

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Posted: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 - 01:24 PM UTC
Thanks for that bit of info Stephen.
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 05:35 AM UTC
Oh man do I need a break. Bench time is measured in minutes these days. I am taking Father’s Day w/e off so MAYBE bench/forum time.

Lots of pics but not as big of an update as I would have liked it to be.

Mike, I finally figured out the answer to your "Watcha gonna do to the fuselage" question

The pics below… After apply some fading filters I decided to tried some AK streaking grime on the fuselage. Not unhappy with the results. Some engine oil seeping in at the plywood seams. I wanted to darken the fly tying thread I use for the rigging so I notched gray marker and pull the thread though the notch. Dark but not black and the silvery base gives it a little bit of a metallic sheen. LET THE RIGGING BEGIN… WOOHOO.

















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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 05:50 AM UTC
Very decent work. That method of streaking the grime stain really adds dimension.
Mobious
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 09:41 AM UTC
Very nice work. I like the subtle effects you've achieved with the "oils". The turnbuckle looks incredible. I have to ask the origins of those "Turnbuckle Beauties".
Thanks
wing_nut
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 11:43 AM UTC
Thanks Stephen. More armor techniques carried over.

Mobiuos... thanks. the turnbuckles are from Gaspatch.
JackFlash
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Posted: Thursday, June 13, 2013 - 01:29 PM UTC
Here you go Mobious. News about Gaspatch turnbuckles
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 05:34 AM UTC
It's official... IT'S A BIPLANE!!!

Got all the eyelets in place, and cobbled together the radiator louver handle and it was finally time to mount the upoper wing. That jug I used worked great and the wing was in perfect alignment.





JackFlash
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2013 - 06:41 AM UTC
Shaping up nicely.
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