Ola guys and gals

I have a question. Yesterday on the SMC 2013 in the Netherlands I managed to get the Eduard Dual Combo Fokker Dr.I for a very decent price. Because of the small size of the aircraft I thought I could do something nice for the base and I thought it was nice to built a part of a hangar. Basically the front part with the doors. Maybe with doors open to create a nice look through from the back. It will only be a few CM deep inside. I found this picture online from a kit I think. It is this picture


Now I'm pretty confident I can scratchbuilt this. But I'm left with some questions that I'm pretty sure you guys can answer. First there is the height question. I found another picture showing the Hangar with some aircraft in front of it. Is the height of the doors correct? Just slightly higher then the Aircraft?


While on the subject of the doors. From the same guy I saw he also built a british hangar which had doors that fold against each other like an accordian. But the Doors in the hangar seem to work differently Were they sliding doors or similar to that of the brits? What are the horizontal bars on the doors? If they were sliding doors where do they slide to?

I guess the wooden hangars were built over a standard wooden frame like you might find in any old barn. Would the roof be corrugated metal? The model of the hangar seems to suggest that anyway.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

With friendly greetz

Robert Blokker

The builder of the diorama in your posting has mixed scales for a forced perspective. Here is a review and a short discussion on Hangars.

The John Jenkins products are listed as 1:30 scale but This hangar appears closer to 1:48.

kit image

German wooden hangars set up on permanent airfields are indeed based on pole barn construction and come in prefabricated wall sections. Note the wooden versions built at Boistracourt for Jasta 5 or the types installed at Wasquehal for Jasta 28w.


Model Size L = 14 ½”
W = 2 ¼”
H = 7 ½”

In 1:30 14.5 X 30 = 435 / 12 = 36.25 feet wide.

In 1:48 14.5 X 48 = 696 / 12 = 58 feet wide.

The bottom images are post war shots at Nivelles where selected German units turned in their aircraft to tjhe British. The German Fokker D.VII had a top wing that spanned 29 ft 2 inches.

Ola Stephen

Thanks for your reply. And endless patience. Read the review. I actually saw it earlier as well. The print is pretty nice but it will Always be a flat piece and I Always like a more 3D approach. Makes it look nicer.

I checked up Boistracourt on Google and found an interesting picture with several hangar types on it. It is this pic which I'm pretty sure you know


I'm kinda looking to scratchbuilt a hangar as the one with the Number 2 on it. Looking at the door height eyeballing it with the aircraft in front of it I'd say the opening is roughly 1,5 to 2 times the height of the Aircraft. I was wondering before on how the doors worked. And when I looked at the hangars further in the picture I thought it was also a folding door type thing. But then I noticed what was in front of Hangar number 2 and the one completely left in the picture. Is that the middle section of the door? So basically only the outer 2 doors open and the middle section is lowered to the floor?

Thats a very good assessment on the doors. Certainly the center panes acted as a "flat surface for working on the airframe or moving it out to the ready line. Note the building with flat angle roof on the long building above #2. See the four "door" sections laid out infront of it.

@ Stephen
Thanks for confirming that Now I can get an idea what to scratchbuilt. Once the Aircraft is finished and I can get an idea what size of base to make I will start making some sketches for the Hangar structure.

Hi Robert and Stephen, what an interesting thread

Not to steal anyones thunder – but I've been tinkering with a German hangar for a while now – perhaps some of my pics can be of help?

Its in 1:32 (thus pretty large), and I had the same image as inspiration as Robert when I started, and also wanted to use it as a "flat" photo background at first. But the project grew, and I'm nearing completion now (though I guess I could go on adding details and figures almost forever).


The walls are made out of balsa wood, which I think works fine in this scale.


I stained and weathered the planks with oil washes.


The side walls are rather short, my thought is that the viewer will be able to see it both from the outside and the inside as it were...


The roof is made out of walled cardboard.


Details – there is a lot of space to fill...



There you are – hope this can be helpful or interesting.

Looking forward to seeing your take

Best Regards

Mikael

Awesome guys

Great info in this topic

@ Mikael
That is tremendous... And it is exactly what I would like to create in 1:72. Allthough I think I will use Styrene for my built. I think Balsa wood will have a too heavy grain for that scale. How did you built the outer doors? Is it 1 big board with planks attached to it? Do you have pictures of the inside. Especially the roof structure and the inside of the doors? Did you make a brick foundation? I think that is what is at the bottom of picture 3.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

With friendly greetz

Robert Blokker

Thank You Robert

Yes I agree in 1:72 styrene would be much more in scale – and you can probably build a bigger hangar in that scale. Mine is fairly small (One plane only) despite being large if you get what I mean...

The outer doors are done plank by plank on a frame – so no big board. Yes I did do a brick foundation – but that is not based on any research on my part, I only wanted to test the material, and get some different textures into the build.

The middle door (the large one on the ground) has the same structure back and front. I'll see if I an get some more pictures posted soon from the inside. I have a deadline with this build for the Swedish Nationals, which is weekend after this one, and I'll do some pics of the finished build then.

All the best

Mikael

here is another option.

Ola guys

@ Mikael
I would love to see more pics of how you did the construction of the whole hangar. I have a general idea of how to built it but there are a few areas that I have no clue about yet.

@ John
Thanks for posting that picture... And it has given rise to another question... As the middle door that flips forward is raised a bit is the floor raised to the same level as the hinging point? Or are they just planking that is laid on the grass?