i have only used this twice. the first time was a horrible disaster.
other shades in this line i have used with success though.
joe
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 02:10 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, April 13, 2014 - 02:53 PM UTC
small but rather significant.
the fuse sides are now joined, seams sanded, flat black sprayed, and then a first. using life color acrylics. god they are tempermental. holy crap. had to repaint dang near the entire fuse again after i made the mistake of handling it after a couple of days.
here is where i sit right now.
and something different. and truly not sure where i am going with this. the tail radio connection.
not sure where i am going with that as i am not sure if i am going with one of the wires to the wing or both wires. not sure of that as i havent sorted out the wings yet. not sure what i am doing with them. full wing or one as just the framing. still thinking about this.
so for now that is all.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
the fuse sides are now joined, seams sanded, flat black sprayed, and then a first. using life color acrylics. god they are tempermental. holy crap. had to repaint dang near the entire fuse again after i made the mistake of handling it after a couple of days.
here is where i sit right now.
and something different. and truly not sure where i am going with this. the tail radio connection.
not sure where i am going with that as i am not sure if i am going with one of the wires to the wing or both wires. not sure of that as i havent sorted out the wings yet. not sure what i am doing with them. full wing or one as just the framing. still thinking about this.
so for now that is all.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
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Posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 - 06:55 AM UTC
Joe, Life Colors are acrylics, and the paint wasn't completely dry after two days? That just doesn't seem quite right.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 04:04 PM UTC
i cant type worth a darn.
what i meant to say is that i waited two days to do anything, i wanted to make sure the paint had dried. when i picked it up i found that handling the body of the plane caused the paint to rub off a bit. i had to respray most of it.
didnt have that issue with enamels. dont know what i had done. found that if i used a glove it fared better but handling it by the unpainted tail or the edge where the wing attaches was the best.
joe
what i meant to say is that i waited two days to do anything, i wanted to make sure the paint had dried. when i picked it up i found that handling the body of the plane caused the paint to rub off a bit. i had to respray most of it.
didnt have that issue with enamels. dont know what i had done. found that if i used a glove it fared better but handling it by the unpainted tail or the edge where the wing attaches was the best.
joe
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 12:44 AM UTC
Quoted Text
i cant type worth a darn.
what i meant to say is that i waited two days to do anything, i wanted to make sure the paint had dried. when i picked it up i found that handling the body of the plane caused the paint to rub off a bit. i had to respray most of it.
didnt have that issue with enamels. dont know what i had done. found that if i used a glove it fared better but handling it by the unpainted tail or the edge where the wing attaches was the best.
joe
Joe,
I had similar issues airbrushing Vallejo Model air and the new Italeri line of Acrylics. I thinned them with water. The paints easily scratched and rubbed off. Made Tamiya Acrylics seem like an epoxy paint. Also had major issues when I moved in close to do a fine free hand line for camo work, the water ran even with 10-12 psi.
I did several more Google searches and found that these are known issues. While water does thin these paints, the above issues are the results. The best thinner for both is Vallejo, which isn't cheap, followed by Italeri's thinner.
I'm willing to bet that thinning LifeColor paints with Vallejo thinner will solve your problem.
A good base primer is also a plus with these water based acrylics. I tested with and without Tamiya's gray primer, and the paints are somewhat more resilient, but still scratch off easier then Tamiya's Acrylics.
I'm slowly switching back to Model Master enamels. Never had any issues other then the much longer drying time. With the Tamiya acrylics I can apply one color right on top of the previous color. I don't dare do that with enamels. Of course I have about 75+ bottles of Tamiya Acrylics to use 1st.
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 01:39 AM UTC
Wow! Very nice!
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 03:05 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Texti cant type worth a darn.
what i meant to say is that i waited two days to do anything, i wanted to make sure the paint had dried. when i picked it up i found that handling the body of the plane caused the paint to rub off a bit. i had to respray most of it.
didnt have that issue with enamels. dont know what i had done. found that if i used a glove it fared better but handling it by the unpainted tail or the edge where the wing attaches was the best.
joe
Joe,
I had similar issues airbrushing Vallejo Model air and the new Italeri line of Acrylics. I thinned them with water. The paints easily scratched and rubbed off. Made Tamiya Acrylics seem like an epoxy paint. Also had major issues when I moved in close to do a fine free hand line for camo work, the water ran even with 10-12 psi.
I did several more Google searches and found that these are known issues. While water does thin these paints, the above issues are the results. The best thinner for both is Vallejo, which isn't cheap, followed by Italeri's thinner.
I'm willing to bet that thinning LifeColor paints with Vallejo thinner will solve your problem.
A good base primer is also a plus with these water based acrylics. I tested with and without Tamiya's gray primer, and the paints are somewhat more resilient, but still scratch off easier then Tamiya's Acrylics.
I'm slowly switching back to Model Master enamels. Never had any issues other then the much longer drying time. With the Tamiya acrylics I can apply one color right on top of the previous color. I don't dare do that with enamels. Of course I have about 75+ bottles of Tamiya Acrylics to use 1st.
Joel
In my experience, a good primer is pretty much essential with acrylics like Vallejo and Lifecolor. Using those on bare plastic where the model is likely to be handled is basically asking for trouble.
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:25 AM UTC
[quote
In my experience, a good primer is pretty much essential with acrylics like Vallejo and Lifecolor. Using those on bare plastic where the model is likely to be handled is basically asking for trouble.[/quote]
Like I said, I found that out the hard way.
Joel
In my experience, a good primer is pretty much essential with acrylics like Vallejo and Lifecolor. Using those on bare plastic where the model is likely to be handled is basically asking for trouble.[/quote]
Like I said, I found that out the hard way.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 10:14 AM UTC
i am glad but also sad that i am not the only one with this issue. it complicates my plans for construction and painting for this.
it is take three step back weekend i am afraid. when i was playing around with the starboard wing i spent two weeks working on the framework and after that period i now find myself back to square one. all the work on the wing is scrapped and i have started anew.
joe
it is take three step back weekend i am afraid. when i was playing around with the starboard wing i spent two weeks working on the framework and after that period i now find myself back to square one. all the work on the wing is scrapped and i have started anew.
joe
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Posted: Sunday, April 20, 2014 - 11:11 AM UTC
Quoted Text
i am glad but also sad that i am not the only one with this issue. it complicates my plans for construction and painting for this.
it is take three step back weekend i am afraid. when i was playing around with the starboard wing i spent two weeks working on the framework and after that period i now find myself back to square one. all the work on the wing is scrapped and i have started anew.
joe
Joe,
Scratch building tends to have those cycles. Even the little bit of scratch building and detailing I did on the P61, I had to back track, and start over a few times when I ended up with something that wasn't what I envisioned. I guess it's just the nature of the beast.
Joel
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Posted: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 - 02:03 PM UTC
well here i am again with a small update.
after two weeks of work ended in frustration i went to work again and came up with the skeleton for the starboard wing. i started with a cheat of sorts. i have built this kit before and in the box of builds that didnt make the moves i found the lower wing as well as the upper wings. i reglued them and then sliced them to get a profile for the spars. i then traced them out, gut them out, glued them to the cut wing parts with white glue, sanded them to the appropriate shape, and then assembled them with the wingtip to fuse spars. mind you these are in no way, shape, or form perfect. i am sure they are not 100% accurate but close enough for me. they are not square either. this is something that i can, to be honest, live with.
so the starboard wing skeleton.
used the kit wingtop to try to get the overall shape correct.
next up is to try to fashion the wing mounted gun assembly, the cable and pulley system for the flaps, the wingtip lights, and the fuel tank. thinking the upper wing will be cut on frame inward of the skeleton and the lower one frame outward of the wheel well.
what do you think of this. if it dont work i will be using the full wing and go that route.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
after two weeks of work ended in frustration i went to work again and came up with the skeleton for the starboard wing. i started with a cheat of sorts. i have built this kit before and in the box of builds that didnt make the moves i found the lower wing as well as the upper wings. i reglued them and then sliced them to get a profile for the spars. i then traced them out, gut them out, glued them to the cut wing parts with white glue, sanded them to the appropriate shape, and then assembled them with the wingtip to fuse spars. mind you these are in no way, shape, or form perfect. i am sure they are not 100% accurate but close enough for me. they are not square either. this is something that i can, to be honest, live with.
so the starboard wing skeleton.
used the kit wingtop to try to get the overall shape correct.
next up is to try to fashion the wing mounted gun assembly, the cable and pulley system for the flaps, the wingtip lights, and the fuel tank. thinking the upper wing will be cut on frame inward of the skeleton and the lower one frame outward of the wheel well.
what do you think of this. if it dont work i will be using the full wing and go that route.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
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Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 01:25 AM UTC
Joe,
Your current version looks really good. I really liked how you solved the shape issue by using the upper and lower wings from another kit. I still have nightmares trying to do just a few spares in the P61 wheel wells. I must have made a half dozen, and finally just settled. You method ends up with the proper and correct shape. Well done.
As for how much you're going to cut away, I would caution you not to go to the excess. Detailed cabling with their associated system of pulleys for flaps, electrical wiring for the wing tip lights, MG installations, and all the associated wiring, and cabling seems to me to be a major, and I mean major under taking.
There is also the wing gas tanks with their associated fuel and electrical lines to be dealt with.
And of courses the wheel wells, and their Hydraulic lines, and electrical lines.
Why not just cut out random free hand shapes? This way you eliminate much of the unwanted major detailing, and at the same time retain the look of the wing, yet offer the viewer selected views of the interior sections.
Joel
Your current version looks really good. I really liked how you solved the shape issue by using the upper and lower wings from another kit. I still have nightmares trying to do just a few spares in the P61 wheel wells. I must have made a half dozen, and finally just settled. You method ends up with the proper and correct shape. Well done.
As for how much you're going to cut away, I would caution you not to go to the excess. Detailed cabling with their associated system of pulleys for flaps, electrical wiring for the wing tip lights, MG installations, and all the associated wiring, and cabling seems to me to be a major, and I mean major under taking.
There is also the wing gas tanks with their associated fuel and electrical lines to be dealt with.
And of courses the wheel wells, and their Hydraulic lines, and electrical lines.
Why not just cut out random free hand shapes? This way you eliminate much of the unwanted major detailing, and at the same time retain the look of the wing, yet offer the viewer selected views of the interior sections.
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 - 01:34 PM UTC
joel i read your post this morning, to be honest i thought about it all day. you make a valid thought. my only response is that the purpose of this is to challenge myself. most of what i have done is way above my skill level. in the process i have really felt that regardless of what i have done the thing pushing me is the challenge. at the end of the day my only thought is that i need to keep pushing. for the plain and simple reason, the challenge.
feel like an addict that needs that next hit. i need to face up to each challenge in this build. it is what is driving this build. it is what is making this build so enjoyable for me.
joe
feel like an addict that needs that next hit. i need to face up to each challenge in this build. it is what is driving this build. it is what is making this build so enjoyable for me.
joe
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 01:18 AM UTC
Joe,
I understand what you're saying, and so far you've more then met that personal challenge. My suggestion was just to limit the cut-a-ways on the wings so that those exposed areas can be highly detailed without having to literally try to construct the whole inner wing. Looking at cut away drawings of WW11 aircraft, I'm always amazed at just how many cables, wires, hoses, pulleys, tanks, lights, etc. there actually are.
Pushing yourself to a higher level can also mean using selective focus to really zero in on the areas you want the viewer to see, rather then just about the whole wing area.
Joel
I understand what you're saying, and so far you've more then met that personal challenge. My suggestion was just to limit the cut-a-ways on the wings so that those exposed areas can be highly detailed without having to literally try to construct the whole inner wing. Looking at cut away drawings of WW11 aircraft, I'm always amazed at just how many cables, wires, hoses, pulleys, tanks, lights, etc. there actually are.
Pushing yourself to a higher level can also mean using selective focus to really zero in on the areas you want the viewer to see, rather then just about the whole wing area.
Joel
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 05:42 AM UTC
joel i very much agree. there are a lot of cables, wires, conduit, gears, boxes, pully's, etc in wings. the hard part for me is looking at what i have done so far, doing a cutaway wing with random or even cuts on panel lines, it is actually easier to work through an entire scratchbuilt wing. looking harder at the flaps they appear to have a rod that controls them. this is so much easier than what i had imagined for the pulley and cable system. the wiring for the wing tip lights and the landing light will be pretty simple as well. the fuel tank will be for the most part covered by where i planned to cut. the wheel well will be of the same thought as the fuel tank. the part that concerns me is the wing mounted gun assembly. that is the part i wish to tackle first.
i have my mind set to tackle the scratchbuilt wing, if possible. the details themselves are not the issue. i worked on the wing and then posted it to see if i was way offline with this. if it just looks way off or will cause the build to look way off then i proceed with the full wing and move forward. if it supports or is supported by the overall style of the build then i proceed with the skeletal wing.
the real question is does any of this make sense or am i just ready for the nut farm and the wrap around evening wear?
joe
i have my mind set to tackle the scratchbuilt wing, if possible. the details themselves are not the issue. i worked on the wing and then posted it to see if i was way offline with this. if it just looks way off or will cause the build to look way off then i proceed with the full wing and move forward. if it supports or is supported by the overall style of the build then i proceed with the skeletal wing.
the real question is does any of this make sense or am i just ready for the nut farm and the wrap around evening wear?
joe
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 07:42 AM UTC
Quoted Text
joel i very much agree. there are a lot of cables, wires, conduit, gears, boxes, pully's, etc in wings. the hard part for me is looking at what i have done so far, doing a cutaway wing with random or even cuts on panel lines, it is actually easier to work through an entire scratchbuilt wing. looking harder at the flaps they appear to have a rod that controls them. this is so much easier than what i had imagined for the pulley and cable system. the wiring for the wing tip lights and the landing light will be pretty simple as well. the fuel tank will be for the most part covered by where i planned to cut. the wheel well will be of the same thought as the fuel tank. the part that concerns me is the wing mounted gun assembly. that is the part i wish to tackle first.
i have my mind set to tackle the scratchbuilt wing, if possible. the details themselves are not the issue. i worked on the wing and then posted it to see if i was way offline with this. if it just looks way off or will cause the build to look way off then i proceed with the full wing and move forward. if it supports or is supported by the overall style of the build then i proceed with the skeletal wing.
the real question is does any of this make sense or am i just ready for the nut farm and the wrap around evening wear?
joe
Joe,
If you do decide on wrap around evening wear, please by all means take a few pictures, and change your avatar. I'm sure you'll be the hit of Aeroscale.
I understand where you're going with this build, that's one of the reasons I'm following it so closely. So far you've been dead on the money with it. If you have the confidence, which you certainly do, to tackle a full wing cut way, then go for it. You can always back track if it becomes more of a challenge then you envisioned.
Joel
My original premise was that it would be easier to focus on a few areas and super detail them, then every main area and try to have them all at the same level.
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 08:02 AM UTC
joel i definitely didnt want to put you off with my comments, i am glad it looks like i didnt. not sure about the confidence but as i tell most, i am too stupid to not do it.
i really am enjoying the challenge and the complexity of what i have done so far and what i am building towards. for most it is the oob builds that seem to rejuvinate the "mojo", for me it is the out of my mind builds that do it.
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe
i really am enjoying the challenge and the complexity of what i have done so far and what i am building towards. for most it is the oob builds that seem to rejuvinate the "mojo", for me it is the out of my mind builds that do it.
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 09:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
joel i definitely didnt want to put you off with my comments, i am glad it looks like i didnt. not sure about the confidence but as i tell most, i am too stupid to not do it.
i really am enjoying the challenge and the complexity of what i have done so far and what i am building towards. for most it is the oob builds that seem to rejuvinate the "mojo", for me it is the out of my mind builds that do it.
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe
Joe,
Don't give it a 2nd thought. It's been a great give and take throughout your build blog.
Not sure how Jim would take the wrap around, but I'm willing to bet that you would set an all time high for views.
Joel
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 09:23 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Textjoel i definitely didnt want to put you off with my comments, i am glad it looks like i didnt. not sure about the confidence but as i tell most, i am too stupid to not do it.
i really am enjoying the challenge and the complexity of what i have done so far and what i am building towards. for most it is the oob builds that seem to rejuvinate the "mojo", for me it is the out of my mind builds that do it.
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe
Joe,
Don't give it a 2nd thought. It's been a great give and take throughout your build blog.
Not sure how Jim would take the wrap around, but I'm willing to bet that you would set an all time high for views.
Joel
i just wonder if they have any other colors than that off white from the last time.
joe
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Posted: Thursday, April 24, 2014 - 09:38 AM UTC
[quote
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe[/quote]
Joe,
Don't give it a 2nd thought. It's been a great give and take throughout your build blog.
Not sure how Jim would take the wrap around, but I'm willing to bet that you would set an all time high for views.
Joel
[/quote]
i just wonder if they have any other colors than that off white from the last time.
joe[/quote]
Joe,
For that I'd check in with Jessica and Terri.
Joel
if i decide to just go for the wrap around evening wear i will get pics for sure. just hope the meds will be the good ones. havent seen the pretty colors in a long time.
joe[/quote]
Joe,
Don't give it a 2nd thought. It's been a great give and take throughout your build blog.
Not sure how Jim would take the wrap around, but I'm willing to bet that you would set an all time high for views.
Joel
[/quote]
i just wonder if they have any other colors than that off white from the last time.
joe[/quote]
Joe,
For that I'd check in with Jessica and Terri.
Joel
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 12:21 PM UTC
now for the news.
this has taken a bit of a change. there will be no skeleton wing for this bird. as much as i wanted it, my skill set at this time wont allow it. so on to plan b.
this morning i began by trying to get the skeleton wing to work. try as i may all i ended up with was frustration. after a couple of hours of cussing and such i went with the suggestion of cutting the wing without redoing the entire wing. so out came the blades, the dremel, and the sandpaper. the cut was made, sorry no pic of just the cut. then out came the files and the sandpaper and i went about trying to clean up the mess. i then started with boxing out the ammo bin. now mind you this is, i am more than sure, not accurate. i am however moving forward with it. i then began to try to fashion some ammo crates, again these are not accurate, i am more than positive i just couldnt get the right shape for the pic i have nor the room that would allow the belts to feed the guns. i then moved onto the set of .303's in the wing. now these although not perfect are a large step up from the kit parts.
all told was a pretty long day in the bunker with really not much to show for it.
first up the .303's.
now for the overall. this is why i am actually pretty happy to move forward.
now unless the mood strikes me to redo the ammo boxes i plan to get some color on this and then move on to the next step.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
this has taken a bit of a change. there will be no skeleton wing for this bird. as much as i wanted it, my skill set at this time wont allow it. so on to plan b.
this morning i began by trying to get the skeleton wing to work. try as i may all i ended up with was frustration. after a couple of hours of cussing and such i went with the suggestion of cutting the wing without redoing the entire wing. so out came the blades, the dremel, and the sandpaper. the cut was made, sorry no pic of just the cut. then out came the files and the sandpaper and i went about trying to clean up the mess. i then started with boxing out the ammo bin. now mind you this is, i am more than sure, not accurate. i am however moving forward with it. i then began to try to fashion some ammo crates, again these are not accurate, i am more than positive i just couldnt get the right shape for the pic i have nor the room that would allow the belts to feed the guns. i then moved onto the set of .303's in the wing. now these although not perfect are a large step up from the kit parts.
all told was a pretty long day in the bunker with really not much to show for it.
first up the .303's.
now for the overall. this is why i am actually pretty happy to move forward.
now unless the mood strikes me to redo the ammo boxes i plan to get some color on this and then move on to the next step.
all comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.
joe
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Joined: March 29, 2010
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Posted: Saturday, April 26, 2014 - 03:18 PM UTC
If modeling was a crime you'd be on death row.
Where did you find those .303's?
Where did you find those .303's?
fightnjoe
Washington, United States
Joined: August 16, 2004
KitMaker: 603 posts
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Joined: August 16, 2004
KitMaker: 603 posts
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014 - 12:36 AM UTC
richard the guns are scratched. i worked off pictures found on the net.
joe
joe
Joel_W
Associate Editor
New York, United States
Joined: December 04, 2010
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Joined: December 04, 2010
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014 - 05:29 AM UTC
Joe,
I Certainly concur with your decision to just scratch out and detail the gun and ammo bays, as we discussed that very issue just a few days ago. Those .303 Browning MGs and ammo boxers are scratch built You could have certainly fooled me, as I would have sworn that they were AM resin parts, they're that good.
I think that Richard's statement really sums up your build to now.
Joel
I Certainly concur with your decision to just scratch out and detail the gun and ammo bays, as we discussed that very issue just a few days ago. Those .303 Browning MGs and ammo boxers are scratch built You could have certainly fooled me, as I would have sworn that they were AM resin parts, they're that good.
I think that Richard's statement really sums up your build to now.
Joel
fightnjoe
Washington, United States
Joined: August 16, 2004
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Joined: August 16, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, April 27, 2014 - 11:05 AM UTC
you are very kind joel. it definitely was our conversation i refered to. the guns i believe ended up being like 30 pieces each gun. the barrel is 3 pieces alone with a drilled end on it. the ammo boxes may need revisited. not sure yet. they dont look quite right to me. need to do up the cables to the guns still.
joe
joe