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Eduard 1/48 scale P-47D limited Edition
betheyn
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#019
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 02:14 AM UTC
Looking good so far Joel, I shall be watching this with interest as I have the Eduard kit in the stash, err somewhere.
Andy
Andy
chris1
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 04:02 AM UTC
Miss Ann sounds good to me.
The name reminds me of an ex girlfriend she was a 6 foot tall budding, body builder.Im 5'8 and at the time was running upwards 130kms per week.So we made a interesting pair.
I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
Chris
The name reminds me of an ex girlfriend she was a 6 foot tall budding, body builder.Im 5'8 and at the time was running upwards 130kms per week.So we made a interesting pair.
I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
Chris
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 04:44 AM UTC
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You're actually going NMF? I usually start there but during the build I always find overwhelming evidence against it and end up with something green and soothing...
Magnus
Magnus,
I'm, certainly not ruling that possibility out. It's happened to me before. Come to think of it, a few times seems more like it.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 04:45 AM UTC
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Looking good so far Joel, I shall be watching this with interest as I have the Eduard kit in the stash, err somewhere.
Andy
Andy,
The kit certainly has it's challenges, that's for sure.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 04:47 AM UTC
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Miss Ann sounds good to me.
The name reminds me of an ex girlfriend she was a 6 foot tall budding, body builder.Im 5'8 and at the time was running upwards 130kms per week.So we made a interesting pair.
I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
Chris
Chris,
And I still have a somewhat over active imagination. Need I say more.
Joel
MrMtnMauler
Joined: January 15, 2011
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 10:07 PM UTC
I'm liking your build and following the thread with interest. Thanks for the updates Joel! Your cockpit looked great! Take care. Jim
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 01:39 AM UTC
Well, it's time for another small update.
Since I elected to open the exhaust vents and waste gates, I needed to do the same for the intercooler exhaust vents on the rear of the fuselage sides. A test fit showed that the vents have a proper fit, but are on the thick side.
So a little bit of filing, sanding, and polishing took care of that issue.
The same was done for the other vent located on the other side of the fuselage.
Most parked photos of P-47s have both their flaps and elevators lowered. While I'm not sure I will be tackling that major modification since the flaps are A-symmetrical, I decided to drop the elevators some. Here I just separated them from the horizontal tail surfaces.
Then I glued a strip of .010 sheet plastic to the front so I could create that beveled surface.
I sanded the sheet plastic on a sanding block so that the sides, bevel, and shape was consistent.
And here's the test fit. The final positioning will be done once the horizontal tail surfaces are glued to the fuselage.
Joel
Since I elected to open the exhaust vents and waste gates, I needed to do the same for the intercooler exhaust vents on the rear of the fuselage sides. A test fit showed that the vents have a proper fit, but are on the thick side.
So a little bit of filing, sanding, and polishing took care of that issue.
The same was done for the other vent located on the other side of the fuselage.
Most parked photos of P-47s have both their flaps and elevators lowered. While I'm not sure I will be tackling that major modification since the flaps are A-symmetrical, I decided to drop the elevators some. Here I just separated them from the horizontal tail surfaces.
Then I glued a strip of .010 sheet plastic to the front so I could create that beveled surface.
I sanded the sheet plastic on a sanding block so that the sides, bevel, and shape was consistent.
And here's the test fit. The final positioning will be done once the horizontal tail surfaces are glued to the fuselage.
Joel
bdanie6
Joined: November 09, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 01:58 AM UTC
It's coming along great Joel. 
Later
Later
magnusf
Joined: May 02, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 02:40 AM UTC
Joel! An ugly trick when it comes to making the rounded nose of flying surfaces (might be illegal in the state of New York, check before you try... ): I've sometimes used Milliput that I can shape with wet fingers and get quite close to the final shape, minimizing the need for sanding. Result is the same but it saves a bit of work!
Magnus
): I've sometimes used Milliput that I can shape with wet fingers and get quite close to the final shape, minimizing the need for sanding. Result is the same but it saves a bit of work! Magnus
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 02:51 AM UTC
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It's coming along great Joel.
Later
Bruce,
Thanks for stopping by and appreciating my efforts.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 02:54 AM UTC
Magnus,
Thanks for the tip. Now here's the funny reply: I have a new box of Milliput not 2 feet from me. Go figure
Will try that next time I need to reshape or shape something. Working with the sheet plastic if nothing else is close to sanding resin.
Joel
Thanks for the tip. Now here's the funny reply: I have a new box of Milliput not 2 feet from me. Go figure
Will try that next time I need to reshape or shape something. Working with the sheet plastic if nothing else is close to sanding resin.
Joel
Thearmorer
Joined: June 17, 2014
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 04:27 AM UTC
Joel,
The Jug is looking good, amazing what a little thinning can do for looks. Question, did you bevel the trailing edges of your horizontal stabilizers to accept your new rounded edge? I wondered, it looked like the elevator sat a little far back in your photo, maybe just the angle of the shot. I've always done it with plastic sheet like you've done here, but Mangus' epoxy method sounds to have merit in the future, particularly on a curved surface like your elevator. Keep up the inspiration.
DR
The Jug is looking good, amazing what a little thinning can do for looks. Question, did you bevel the trailing edges of your horizontal stabilizers to accept your new rounded edge? I wondered, it looked like the elevator sat a little far back in your photo, maybe just the angle of the shot. I've always done it with plastic sheet like you've done here, but Mangus' epoxy method sounds to have merit in the future, particularly on a curved surface like your elevator. Keep up the inspiration.
DR
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 07:11 AM UTC
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Joel,
The Jug is looking good, amazing what a little thinning can do for looks. Question, did you bevel the trailing edges of your horizontal stabilizers to accept your new rounded edge? I wondered, it looked like the elevator sat a little far back in your photo, maybe just the angle of the shot. I've always done it with plastic sheet like you've done here, but Mangus' epoxy method sounds to have merit in the future, particularly on a curved surface like your elevator. Keep up the inspiration.
DR
Magnus has a great idea, sure wish he told me about it before I did it the old fashion way.
I've rounded the leading edge, and yes I've beveled the trailing edge. Both still need a little more work, that's why nothing is primed as yet. I'll get it close, but the overall dimension will end up being a few mm wider then it was as one piece. Of course I can always shorten the cord on the horizontal stabilizer, which I'll most likely do.
Joel
greif8
Joined: January 17, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 02:24 PM UTC
Hi Joel, I just saw this log and will make sure to follow along on another of your excellent builds. The office looks very nice with some good detail and the painting is first rate as always. The scratch built vents are also quite nicely done!
Ernest
Ernest
Joel_W
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 - 06:47 PM UTC
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Hi Joel, I just saw this log and will make sure to follow along on another of your excellent builds. The office looks very nice with some good detail and the painting is first rate as always. The scratch built vents are also quite nicely done!
Ernest
Ernest,
Thank you for your most kind and thoughtful words.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 02:23 AM UTC
Well progress has been slow but steady since my last update.
A usual, a dry fit of the wing tip lenses proved to be close but not perfect, so I glued them on, then sanded to shape. I polished the lens through 12,000 grit, then a coating of Zap-A-Gap thin CA glue. I used accelerator to speed up the drying process, then sanded with 600 through 12,000. The results look pretty good. the lens on the left has been just glued on, while the one on the right received the full treatment.
Up next was attaching the wings. Again, the fit was pretty good, but not good enough. The end result is a consistent seam line that has a final coating of Vallejo White Acrylic putty. It really shrinks quite a lot, which is what I wanted, so that the demarcation line will be visible through the priming and Alcad process.
Then I glued on the Horizontal stabilizers, applied a light coating of Vallejo White Acrylic putty, then glued on the elevators in a down parked position.
The engine cowling has been taped in place just for the picture session to have an idea of how the overall shape of the Jug looks.
Well, that the progress to date.
Joel
A usual, a dry fit of the wing tip lenses proved to be close but not perfect, so I glued them on, then sanded to shape. I polished the lens through 12,000 grit, then a coating of Zap-A-Gap thin CA glue. I used accelerator to speed up the drying process, then sanded with 600 through 12,000. The results look pretty good. the lens on the left has been just glued on, while the one on the right received the full treatment.
Up next was attaching the wings. Again, the fit was pretty good, but not good enough. The end result is a consistent seam line that has a final coating of Vallejo White Acrylic putty. It really shrinks quite a lot, which is what I wanted, so that the demarcation line will be visible through the priming and Alcad process.
Then I glued on the Horizontal stabilizers, applied a light coating of Vallejo White Acrylic putty, then glued on the elevators in a down parked position.
The engine cowling has been taped in place just for the picture session to have an idea of how the overall shape of the Jug looks.
Well, that the progress to date.
Joel
JClapp
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Joined: October 23, 2011
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 02:32 AM UTC
The drooping elevators came out excellent 
nice idea, nicely executed.
Mechanical things like that really make the viewer pause to think.
nice idea, nicely executed.Mechanical things like that really make the viewer pause to think.
AussieReg
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 02:35 AM UTC
Great attention to detail Joel, it's coming together really nicely now!
Cheers, D
Cheers, D
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 03:04 AM UTC
Jonathan, and Damian,
Thanks so much for stopping by and checking out my update.
Looking at the update pictures I discovered a issue that I missed when dry fitting the elevators, and even looking at the finished pictures. The concave tips of the horizontal stabilizers are not consistent with the convex curvature of the elevators, hence there is a incorrect gap. Now the question is what do I do about it. I really don't wan to use sheet plastic as I'll end up making more of mess then it's worth. So I think I'll try working with some Milliput as it has a long working life, and can be smoothed out with just water.
Joel
Thanks so much for stopping by and checking out my update.
Looking at the update pictures I discovered a issue that I missed when dry fitting the elevators, and even looking at the finished pictures. The concave tips of the horizontal stabilizers are not consistent with the convex curvature of the elevators, hence there is a incorrect gap. Now the question is what do I do about it. I really don't wan to use sheet plastic as I'll end up making more of mess then it's worth. So I think I'll try working with some Milliput as it has a long working life, and can be smoothed out with just water.
Joel
JClapp
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Joined: October 23, 2011
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 03:27 AM UTC
Hm. yup. Milliput to the rescue.
greif8
Joined: January 17, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 12:32 PM UTC
Looking very good so far Joel. Excellent execution on the dropped elevators. Someday I might get my skills up to the level of being able to pull off a NMF, but not yet.
Ernest
Ernest
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 09:14 PM UTC
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Looking very good so far Joel. Excellent execution on the dropped elevators. Someday I might get my skills up to the level of being able to pull off a NMF, but not yet.
Ernest
Ernest,
Thanks so much for those more then kind words.
Your skills are certainly at the level of doing a NMF. It's all in the prep work. The Alcad paint is in reality just the icing on the cake.
The problem that I'm having just thinking about the finish, is how I'm going to handle the base coat. Right now my preference is to go with just Alcad's Gloss Black without a primer coat under it, then mask all the flying surfaces and air brush them a darkish flat gray. When dry, polish it out so it's flat but smooth. At least, that the plan as of now.
Joel
Totalize
Joined: February 04, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 11:02 PM UTC
Joel,
From your post on my build log.
Dave,
those pictures certainly do. Now I can use the resin wheels without the hub caps. AS for the prop, the kit has both.
One thing I'm still debating about is whether or not to actually spend the time detailing the engine with ignition wires as it's really hard to see much of it with that big massive cowl.
Joel
I say go for it. I am going to add the wires myself since I believe they can be seen from the front.
From your post on my build log.
Dave,
those pictures certainly do. Now I can use the resin wheels without the hub caps. AS for the prop, the kit has both.
One thing I'm still debating about is whether or not to actually spend the time detailing the engine with ignition wires as it's really hard to see much of it with that big massive cowl.
Joel
I say go for it. I am going to add the wires myself since I believe they can be seen from the front.
magnusf
Joined: May 02, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 11:16 PM UTC
Thanks for keeping us entertained Joel! I'm stuck with the CAD tonight (those customers...) but I hope I'll get some stuff done over the weekend...
I wouldn't worry that much about the elevator mismatch, don't do anything that ruins the model at this stage!
Magnus
I wouldn't worry that much about the elevator mismatch, don't do anything that ruins the model at this stage!
Magnus
Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 01:18 AM UTC
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Joel,
From your post on my build log.
Dave,
those pictures certainly do. Now I can use the resin wheels without the hub caps. AS for the prop, the kit has both.
One thing I'm still debating about is whether or not to actually spend the time detailing the engine with ignition wires as it's really hard to see much of it with that big massive cowl.
Joel
I say go for it. I am going to add the wires myself since I believe they can be seen from the front.
Dave,
Yeah, I'll be wiring up that big double Wasp 2800 engine. You just can't see the top part of the cylinder heads.
Joel
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