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ICM: Dornier Do 17Z-10 - night fighter
Mecenas
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2015 - 12:00 PM UTC


Thanks to ICM we can present first shots of their new model kit. This is a brand new Dornier 17Z in a night fighter configuration.

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Thanks!
JPTRR
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2015 - 01:54 AM UTC
I like what I see. But did these carry bombs? Perhaps as intruders.
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2015 - 07:26 AM UTC
No, Germany didn't fly intruder missions until late. It was believed that the nachtjager should be seen defending German cities. Also, these early night fighting aircraft carried an infra red searchlight of dubious value. It is written in a book that I used to have that they suffered higher losses from friendly flak.
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, July 04, 2015 - 10:15 PM UTC
Hi Gary

According to my references the Luftwaffe flew intruder missions from quite early on, and the failure to continue them into the last years of the war is often cited as a blunder. The Spanner-Anlage system proved to be of very limited value, though, as it was very unreliable and could not differentiate between friend and foe.

More importantly, I'm pleased to see the first of the Do-17s come through. ICM have a great series building.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2015 - 06:01 PM UTC
I have read some first hand accounts on German early war intruder missions. They also carried limited bomb loads. Very limited in scope but very successful. However, since the claims were over enemy territory they could not be verified and led to the missions generally being viewed as unsuccessful by German command. Had the missions been stepped up and continued it would have been much more difficult and costly for Britain to build up bomber command.
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2015 - 06:03 PM UTC
Great to see this kit out. As I recall there are also some cool camo schemes for this one, but I might recall wrongly. Any insights on markings and camo schemes included in the kit?
Naseby
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2015 - 05:33 PM UTC
I hope the early bomber versions will be released sooner or later, then we could finally get a Legion Condor bomber in 1/48 (not counting Hobbycraft)
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