So, we have a fair few campaigns going for WWI and WWII, but not so much for those who prefer the blow-torch approach to thrust. We've had fairly recent Century Series and Cold War campaigns, how about one for the Terrible Teens? The successful and long-lived designs of the '70s and '80s, by which I mean:
F-14
F-15
F-16
F/A-18
For the sake of variety, I would suggest including:
F-117
A-10
What do you all think?
Michael
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Posted: Friday, February 17, 2017 - 11:59 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 06:07 AM UTC
I need to retire to build all these kits, but I do have several kits that fit this build. Depends on time frame, and I'd be in.
Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 06:37 PM UTC
Count me in!
Nito74
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 07:18 PM UTC
So what about a Migs 15-17-19 and Su-15 and Su-17 ?
I'm in with or without them..
I'm in with or without them..
Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 07:31 PM UTC
If you allow the A-10 then you better make room for F-111 also!
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 07:45 PM UTC
Not sure I agree about the F-111. It was a 1960s bird, first flew in '64 and entered service in '67. The A-10 first flew in 1972 and entered service in '77, placing it right in line with the fighter teens. This, of course, applies even more to the MiGs which were 1950s designs.
Hope this doesn't turn anyone away!
Michael
Hope this doesn't turn anyone away!
Michael
Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 08:02 PM UTC
Ah, I see the logic now, although I'm not sure the F-117 had all that long-lived a career. Maybe it just felt like a flash in the pan.
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 08:03 PM UTC
I'd quite happily join up for one of the classic US "teen" aircraft but are you aiming the campaign at aircraft with teen in the name or aircraft that dominated the 70's and 80's ?
If the latter then you get into blurry territory with the RAF's Phantoms, Buccaneers and Tornados...
If the latter then you get into blurry territory with the RAF's Phantoms, Buccaneers and Tornados...
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 08:14 PM UTC
I'm thinking about a grouping sort of like the Century Series but later. I know it's U.S.-centric, and if that's a problem would be happy to consider expanding, if that would be more interesting to people. We could call it a Fourth Generation Fighter campaign (though that would rule out the A-10 and probably F-117 as well). Let me know what you think!
Michael
Michael
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 08:22 PM UTC
ooooh, MIGZ.
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 08:43 PM UTC
I actually quite like the idea of a tightly focused campaign based on the US 'teens, i just wanted to clarify!
A broader 4th gen fighter campaign could follow later ?
A broader 4th gen fighter campaign could follow later ?
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Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 09:31 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Not sure I agree about the F-111. It was a 1960s bird, first flew in '64 and entered service in '67. The A-10 first flew in 1972 and entered service in '77, placing it right in line with the fighter teens. This, of course, applies even more to the MiGs which were 1950s designs.
Hope this doesn't turn anyone away!
Michael
I was thinking that the F-14,15,16,18 were there because of the teen age, that's why I suggested the Mig's and Sukhois.
I get it now.
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 02:51 AM UTC
Howdy Y'all
This sounds like a great idea but could we save a "Fourth Generation Fighters" campaign for later? We haven't got the "Second Generation" up and running yet. Then we seem to skip the "Third Generation"
I can't wait to watch everyone's builds. These are the planes I followed when I was younger. Does anyone know if the Tamiya 1/48 F-16 or F-117 kits are "shake & bake"? I've seen my friends in the club make some really nice F-16's.
I'll hold off on joining the campaign. I've got 10 campaigns going and am still waiting for "Second Generation Jets".
Take care,
Don "Lakota"
This sounds like a great idea but could we save a "Fourth Generation Fighters" campaign for later? We haven't got the "Second Generation" up and running yet. Then we seem to skip the "Third Generation"
I can't wait to watch everyone's builds. These are the planes I followed when I was younger. Does anyone know if the Tamiya 1/48 F-16 or F-117 kits are "shake & bake"? I've seen my friends in the club make some really nice F-16's.
I'll hold off on joining the campaign. I've got 10 campaigns going and am still waiting for "Second Generation Jets".
Take care,
Don "Lakota"
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 03:19 AM UTC
I think the Tamiya kits are very nice and are more recent, so the engineering is top notch.
I believe we'll stick with the original concept of U.S.'70s and '80s aircraft in the teens, as set out in my original post. This would, of course, include all versions and users of any of those aircraft.
I think we're up to 5 so far. Anyone else interested?
Michael
I believe we'll stick with the original concept of U.S.'70s and '80s aircraft in the teens, as set out in my original post. This would, of course, include all versions and users of any of those aircraft.
I think we're up to 5 so far. Anyone else interested?
Michael
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 03:27 AM UTC
Oh go on then, I needed an excuse to buy an F-15 .
Andy
Andy
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 03:35 AM UTC
I'm in.
I've got an F-18 I need an excuse to build.
I've got an F-18 I need an excuse to build.
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 03:58 AM UTC
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Oh go on then, I needed an excuse to buy an F-15 .
I just bought 2 Tomcats i'm in
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 07:50 AM UTC
Good Idea Mike!!!!!
Good idea.....
Good idea.....
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 01:25 PM UTC
Oh no, I'm excited to revisit some of the projects of my (modelling) youth.... but which to do?????
I built each of the 14,15,16 and 18 quite badly back then.
I built each of the 14,15,16 and 18 quite badly back then.
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 03:15 PM UTC
Oh, err, umm, I've got several F-16s begging to be built (a cpouple even started), at least 2 F-14, possibly only 1 F-15 and two F-18 along with an F-117 and maybe even an A-10. jus I never finish anything...
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 08:05 PM UTC
Great, I think that's 10 (if Jose is in)! I'll see about setting it up later today. Would you all rather see a start date in March or May?
Michael
Michael
Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 08:14 PM UTC
I think May would be better for me, but I'm ok if everyone else wants an earlier start.
Had a look for the kit last week and couldn't find it. Might still be boxed up at my parents house.
On the plus side it's the Hasegawa Hornet so should build quickly and with no fuss.
Had a look for the kit last week and couldn't find it. Might still be boxed up at my parents house.
On the plus side it's the Hasegawa Hornet so should build quickly and with no fuss.
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 08:32 PM UTC
I´m in Mike.... but give me time. I have two planes now in the workbench
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 09:39 PM UTC
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I decided to leave the 117 out for now as being rather an outlier, but am more than willing to change my mind if people want it included. I kept the A-10 in, however.
Looking forward to this one!
Michael
I decided to leave the 117 out for now as being rather an outlier, but am more than willing to change my mind if people want it included. I kept the A-10 in, however.
Looking forward to this one!
Michael
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Posted: Sunday, February 19, 2017 - 10:20 PM UTC