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Fw 190 A-6 Butcher Bird
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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 01:01 AM UTC


Just reviewed Eduards 1/48 scale Fw 190 A-6 and as I was looking for another project after completing ICM’s Do 215 [I mistakably called it a Do 217!] I thought this would fit the bill. Decided to purchase a late war Luftwaffe paint set from Vallejo and also bought Vallejo’s filler. I have to admit I’m not a great fan of the butcher bird, much preferred the more balanced looking Fw 190 D series. But I feel enthused with the quality of the kit, it just begs to be built. Oh and the marking options are rather tasty....


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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 09:50 PM UTC
I noticed when I reviewed the kit, the surface of the plastic had a very light covering of mould release agent. So, I put all the plastic sprues in a warm bathe of soapy water overnight. Once dried I wiped the surfaces with an alcohol on a cloth. I also lightly abraded the back of the photo etched fret. I find the super glue works better if it was a bit more surface area to set.
Cockpit was built up first, I do like to protect the plastic surface that will be glued with masking tape. I know super thin glues do cut through paint, but I prefer it just went straight onto the plastic surface. Exhaust stacks were also fitted. Interior colour will be RLM 66 [Black Grey] over grey primer.






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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 05:33 AM UTC
No problems adding the photo etched parts together. The instrument panel [IP] is one pre-painted PE part laid over another. I use Johnson Klear to stick them together and onto the plastic. I use super glue if I’m sticking PE to plastic if I need to later bend the etched parts. I even managed to place some of the tiny handles and levers on the IP. The cockpit tub now glued in place.





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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 06:08 AM UTC
Nice start!!!!
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 08:56 AM UTC

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Nice start!!!!


Thanks Jose, much appreciated

The engine is a much simpler representation than Eduard’s first generation of quarter scale Fw 190’s, not that you will see much of it behind the fan. The cowl lip is in two parts as are the gun covers over the engine bay. The fuselage fits together very well.





Its going to be interesting to see what the joint is going to look like between the wing and fuselage....


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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 09:10 AM UTC
I started the construction of the undercarriage bay. The marking option I’m going for requires the modification of the skinning between the two bays and type I’m doing has no inner doors. It’s a simple matter of cutting off the part that bridges the divide between the undercarriage bay cut outs. Eduard supply the alternate part in the kit and it fits into the vacant space beautifully. There are around fifteen plastic parts to detail the undercarriage bay and that’s not including the barrels of the two MG FF cannons passing through. Most of the parts fir into the lower wing although there are two small parts to fit on the upper wing [1st pic]. It builds up into a nicely detailed area. The barrels of the cannon passing through the wheel bay are very weak. So once fitted I cut them off and will fit them back on towards the end of the painting. The third bank of exhausts is fitted just in front of the undercarriage bay.










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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 10:10 AM UTC
Watching closely as I have the same kit. Looking good!
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 11:53 PM UTC
Early days yet Colin, but I'm hopeful it might not take too long to build
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2020 - 05:20 AM UTC
Fuselage and wings were joined and I’m very impressed how well it goes together. I did misalign the rear of the wing join with the fuselage. My fault for not paying attention, by the time I noticed it the extra thin glue has set. Otherwise the join at the wing root is so good it won’t need any filler or sanding at all. No clamps, no wrestling into position, just an incredible fit. Chapeau Eduard….










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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2020 - 10:10 AM UTC
Just given the model a coat of primer to check for any gaps. The only one is by root of the horizontal stabilisers. My fault should have pressed them into place a little harder. The fit of the windscreen and canopy is excellent. So impressed with the fit of this kit so far






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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - 04:52 AM UTC
Paint masks were applied to the windscreen and canopy. I had concerns about the paper like backing of the paint masks instead of the thin card that Eduard used in the past. No problems with the new format at all. Primer was reapplied and then I used white acrylic paint thinned down to do the pre-shading. I probably need not have done the upper surfaces, but its good practice for the camouflage finish I have selected. I painted the Vallejo yellow under the wing tips, nose, the fuselage band and rudder.







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..that's going together nice and quickly Tim ..and a 'different' take on the pre-shade that I've not seen before..
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 - 08:04 PM UTC

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..that's going together nice and quickly Tim ..and a 'different' take on the pre-shade that I've not seen before..


It is going together quickly Neil, I'm normally build at a very pedestrian rate. Its more to do with the quality of the kit and using extra thin glue. The glue particular means you can move from one stage of the build to another very quickly.

I’ve probably seen the idea for this method of pre-shading elsewhere Neil, I’m forever searching for new approaches to painting. Seems to make sense if you are using a dark primer to use a paler colour over it. It seems to work well for me, but I do thin my paint a lot, even the ready to spray Vallejo Air. Another benefit is that I seem to be using less paint and also the thinned down paint seems to dry quickly. But then again the warm weather we are experiencing in the UK makes a huge difference in paint drying times...
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 09:04 AM UTC
Upper and lower parts painted. Lower is painted RLM 76 and the upper RLM 74 and 75. The darker colours come much further down fuselage with the option I have chosen.



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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 09:45 AM UTC
brilliant start, Tim! Following with interest
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 09:54 AM UTC
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It is going together quickly Neil, I'm normally build at a very pedestrian rate. Its more to do with the quality of the kit and using extra thin glue. The glue particular means you can move from one stage of the build to another very quickly



hi tim. nice work so far. i really like your paint work. did you reprime the whole model white or did you just fill in the panels white leaving the panel lines exposed?
what glue do you use? i use tamiya thin and find i have to hold or clamp parts together for more than 20 minutes at times. nothing quick about that. i did find that if you miss align a part you can re apply glue to the part to re activate/soften the glue and adjust the part.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 11:00 AM UTC

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brilliant start, Tim! Following with interest


Thank Russell, will hopefully have it finished in the next few days
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hi tim. nice work so far. i really like your paint work. did you reprime the whole model white or did you just fill in the panels white leaving the panel lines exposed?


Hi Joe thanks for your comments
I used Ultimate grey primer to cover the whole kit to start off with, then Vallejo Air white to fill the panels, but leave the panel lines grey. I thin the white paint a little so the colour density needs to be built up.


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what glue do you use? i use tamiya thin and find i have to hold or clamp parts together for more than 20 minutes at times. nothing quick about that. i did find that if you miss align a part you can re apply glue to the part to re activate/soften the glue and adjust the part.


Regarding glues I have just converted to Tamiya Extra Thin glue and haven’t used anything else on plastic since. You can hold the parts together and spot weld with the glue along the join. Osmosis carries excess glue along the join. I find with Extra thin I can hold the two parts to be glued for 30 seconds then move on to the next stage. I also used it on the clear plastic. I have noticed you have to be a bit careful with some plastics though, if you apply too much it can melt the plastic beyond the joint
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 11:09 AM UTC
Managed to apply the winter camouflage on this evening, will give it a couple of hours to dry then apply two or three coats of Klear. Then its ready for the decals.



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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 11:22 PM UTC

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brilliant start, Tim! Following with interest


Thank Russell, will hopefully have it finished in the next few days


I can see where the "Litespeed" moniker comes from, Tim
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Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2020 - 08:23 AM UTC

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I can see where the "Litespeed" moniker comes from, Tim


Hi Russell. I really don't normally build this quickly, but this kit does seem to fall together. I think also not having to spend time mixing paints helps a lot too. Using the pre-mixed paints sure does help speed up the build process and also makes for a less stressful build...
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Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2020 - 09:12 AM UTC
Applied a couple of coats of Klear overall in preparation for decaling. I had a little trouble with the first couple of decals as they seemed very grippy and weren’t to keen to be moved around. So I painted water onto the surface rather than Microsol for the remaining decals. They responded much better. There are no stencils or wing walk ways as they were over painted with the white camouflage




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I can see where the "Litespeed" moniker comes from, Tim


Hi Russell. I really don't normally build this quickly, but this kit does seem to fall together. I think also not having to spend time mixing paints helps a lot too. Using the pre-mixed paints sure does help speed up the build process and also makes for a less stressful build...


I think the quickest I've ever built a model since taking up the hobby again is 3 months...

Meanwhile this looks amazing
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Posted: Thursday, August 20, 2020 - 11:57 PM UTC
Beautiful painting work!!!
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Posted: Friday, August 21, 2020 - 01:18 AM UTC

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Beautiful painting work!!!


Paint work is really great! Outstanding!

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