Thought this would be fun. Which of the following planes had the most and the least air to air victories in Desert Storm
1. F-16
2. F-14
3. F-15
4. A-10
5. F-18
IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER PLEASE DO NOT POST IT. I would like to see what people think off the top of their heads on this one.
So what do you think. Which on had the most and which one had the least air to air victories.
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drewgimpy
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:02 PM UTC
Bombshell
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:12 PM UTC
I'd have to say the F-16, just because it a lame excuse for a fighter aircraft 
Kidding aside, I don't remember ever reading of an F-16 air-to-air victory in the Gulf. I know even the A-10s shot down some Iraqi helos.
Cheers,
CDT Reimund Manneck
U.S. Army ROTC
Kidding aside, I don't remember ever reading of an F-16 air-to-air victory in the Gulf. I know even the A-10s shot down some Iraqi helos.
Cheers,
CDT Reimund Manneck
U.S. Army ROTC
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:22 PM UTC
Hey Reimund, do you want a better 98th Division Patch .jpg?
YodaMan
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:28 PM UTC
I'll guess F-15 for the most...
...and A-10 for the least...
Spoken, I have.
YodaMan
...and A-10 for the least...
Spoken, I have.
YodaMan
Linz
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 02:57 PM UTC
The F-15 would have scored the most kills, with the least going to the F-16 - I don't recall anything being said about the -16 scoring until post-91.
Cheer,
Linz
Cheer,
Linz
Whiskey
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 04:15 PM UTC
I KNOW THE ANSWER!lol seriously.You dont want me to post it?What kind of trivia is this?
drewgimpy
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 06:58 PM UTC
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I KNOW THE ANSWER!lol seriously.You dont want me to post it?What kind of trivia is this?
I want the answer posted, just not right away. If we post the answer nobody will have a chance to guess. What do you say we wait until Saturday evening say about 5:00 eastern then you can post the answer. I can't stop you from posting it, just think it's more fun this way. Am I wrong on this? would you guys rather know the answer right away instead of playing along?
Jeepney
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 07:05 PM UTC
Let's wait until Saturday! 
F-18 most
F-14 least
Cool avatar Zach
F-18 most
F-14 least
Cool avatar Zach
TOMCAT14
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 08:11 PM UTC
Hi,
F-14 - had the least and F-18 had the most air ti air victories in Desert Storm .
Best Regards
F-14 - had the least and F-18 had the most air ti air victories in Desert Storm .
Best Regards
SS-74
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 08:16 PM UTC
Is this only limited to US forces, or also foreign employed F-14/15/16/18? 
Kraftstoff
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 08:51 PM UTC
Hi Guys,
MOST.......it's the A-10 of course
Cheers Dave
MOST.......it's the A-10 of course
Cheers Dave
Whiskey
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 05:15 AM UTC
Ahh you guys suck.I wanted to post the answer lol.It was some helo they Tomcat nailed and I keep thinking it was a MI-24 but I know thats not right.Correct?
Bravo-Comm
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 06:01 AM UTC
Hey Zach, If you can't keep a civil tongue, Then dont post here. OR Go grow up some more first... We dont NEED or WANT bad lanquage here !!!! GROW UP JR !!DAGGER-1
slodder
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 06:39 AM UTC
Ok - My first thought was A-10 least, F-14 most. That's without research or even reading the posts.
Whiskey
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 06:45 AM UTC
That was bad language?Im not trying to be a smart alec but I mean really that was?
staff_Jim
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 07:23 AM UTC
Interesting. 
A10 with air to air kills?? I would guess that would be the least.
Zach - Remember we are old farts and back in our day saying "you suck" was meant to be offensive. What a great world we live in now that's it's not. err.....
On the topic in general.... You mean we didn't destroy all Iraq's planes on the ground? I thought my memory was they tried to hide (or remove to Iran) all their A/C?
Jim
A10 with air to air kills?? I would guess that would be the least.
Zach - Remember we are old farts and back in our day saying "you suck" was meant to be offensive. What a great world we live in now that's it's not. err.....
On the topic in general.... You mean we didn't destroy all Iraq's planes on the ground? I thought my memory was they tried to hide (or remove to Iran) all their A/C?
Jim
Armour66
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 07:26 AM UTC
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That was bad language?Im not trying to be a smart alec but I mean really that was?
Don't sweat it, Zach....you did not do anything wrong.
slodder
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 07:54 AM UTC
drewgimpy you started something with this one
Jim - if you need people to connect and login this is quite the way to bring back visitors. I know where I'm going to be tomorrow at 5
Jim - if you need people to connect and login this is quite the way to bring back visitors. I know where I'm going to be tomorrow at 5
Whiskey
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:27 AM UTC
Thanks guys.
No Jim we didn't destroy all of thier A/C on the ground.In fact the F-15 guys bagged alot of bogies over the skies of Iraq.
No Jim we didn't destroy all of thier A/C on the ground.In fact the F-15 guys bagged alot of bogies over the skies of Iraq.
drewgimpy
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:49 AM UTC
I thought It would be more fun to actually do it this way. I take some time and write down how many air victories each plane listed had, what date it was scored, and what weapon was used to make the kill.
Tomcat14, I only have published information on the aircraft I listed, no other countries or types of aircraft. If you know more than that maybe you can come up with a new question
Tomcat14, I only have published information on the aircraft I listed, no other countries or types of aircraft. If you know more than that maybe you can come up with a new question
lambertjr
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:42 AM UTC
Most-F15
Least-F16
Least-F16
stavka2000
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Posted: Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 03:55 AM UTC
I am not going to spoil it either but make a distinction between the Strike Eagle and the Eagle. They downed a flying/hovering BO-105 with an LGB. That was pretty amazing Revell/Monogram makes the kit with the correct decal.
One or two Saudi F-15s scored kills as well. I think those were the only foreign employed fighters to do so.
Revell/Monogram makes the kit with the correct decal.One or two Saudi F-15s scored kills as well. I think those were the only foreign employed fighters to do so.
drewgimpy
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Posted: Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 10:43 AM UTC
Well here is is. I was pretty suprised when I found out, thats why I asked everyone else what they thought. I know I am a little early, but I have to take off so I had to do it now.
Aircraft # of Kills
F-15C 36
TIE A-10A 2
TIE F/A-18C 2
F-14A 1
F-16 0
Here is a breakdown of the air-to-air victories by date, aircraft scoring the victory, weapon used, and what the shot down. This information comes from "Gulf War Debriefing Book" by Andrew Leyden and published by Hellgate Press. I hope everyone enjoyed this.
Date Aircraft Weapon Downed
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C Ground Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F/A-18C AIM-9 MIG-21
Jan 17th F/A-18C AIM-9 MIG-21
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-25
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-25
Jan 19th F-15C Ground MIG-29
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 24th F-15C AIM-9 Mirage F1
Jan 24th F-15C AIM-9 Mirage F1
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 28th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 29th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Feb 2nd F-15C AIM-7 IL-76
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-21
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-21
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 Su-25
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 Su-25
Feb 6th A-10A GAU-8 Bo 105
Feb 7th F-14A AIM-9 Mi-8
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Helo
Feb 11th F-15C AIM-7 Helo
Feb 15th A-10A GAU-8 Mi-8
Feb 20th F-15C AIM-9 Su-22
Mar 22nd F-15C AIM-9 Su-22
Mar 22nd F-15C Ground PC-9
Aircraft # of Kills
F-15C 36
TIE A-10A 2
TIE F/A-18C 2
F-14A 1
F-16 0
Here is a breakdown of the air-to-air victories by date, aircraft scoring the victory, weapon used, and what the shot down. This information comes from "Gulf War Debriefing Book" by Andrew Leyden and published by Hellgate Press. I hope everyone enjoyed this.
Date Aircraft Weapon Downed
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C Ground Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 17th F/A-18C AIM-9 MIG-21
Jan 17th F/A-18C AIM-9 MIG-21
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-25
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-25
Jan 19th F-15C Ground MIG-29
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-29
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 19th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 24th F-15C AIM-9 Mirage F1
Jan 24th F-15C AIM-9 Mirage F1
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 26th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 27th F-15C AIM-7 Mirage F1
Jan 28th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Jan 29th F-15C AIM-7 MIG-23
Feb 2nd F-15C AIM-7 IL-76
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-21
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 MIG-21
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 Su-25
Feb 6th F-15C AIM-9 Su-25
Feb 6th A-10A GAU-8 Bo 105
Feb 7th F-14A AIM-9 Mi-8
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Su-7/17
Feb 7th F-15C AIM-7 Helo
Feb 11th F-15C AIM-7 Helo
Feb 15th A-10A GAU-8 Mi-8
Feb 20th F-15C AIM-9 Su-22
Mar 22nd F-15C AIM-9 Su-22
Mar 22nd F-15C Ground PC-9
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Posted: Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 01:14 PM UTC
Now, how many did we lose? (coallition) And how did they go down?
I do not know the answer.
I do not know the answer.
Whiskey
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Posted: Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 02:09 PM UTC
I know the first was a F/A-18 and thats the one that there is still controversy over if we left him behind because they never found the body.I also know that the British lost a solid amount of Tornados while strafing the Iraqi airfields.Our A-10's also took a pretty good beating.
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