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1/72 Hurricane IIc, India 1942
youngc
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Posted: Monday, March 24, 2008 - 04:36 PM UTC
Thanks guys,

Mal, so if I am going to add the step, I will need to somehow open the hand-hold?

David, It is an amazing aircraft I agree, my favourite too.

I should have some photos up of my dioramic progress soon.


Chas
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Posted: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 02:53 AM UTC
I can't wait to see your Diorama Base. PLEASE show detailed steps! It's something I've wanted to do but has always eluded me because I just don't know what to do or what to use! Can't wait to see it
youngc
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 02:33 PM UTC
Hi Eric,

The first step is (for me) to obtain a small square block of wood. For this particular build, it needs to be just big enough for the Hurricane to sit on. To tidy up the edges, cut some strips of balsa wood and glue to all sides. Balsa is easy to sand and can be cut with a sharp knife.

Progress on the Hurricane is coming along. I am in the process of attaching a tropical filter and then painting the underside. Photos to come soon.

Chas
youngc
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Posted: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 10:01 PM UTC
More diorama progress.

This is the type of plaster that I use for the groundwork:


Water added:


Material is pressed into the base and left to dry:
youngc
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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 12:07 AM UTC
Questions, comments, slaughter?

More progress. Got a Revell tropical filter ready to attach to the Hurricane. These things made the Hurricane look so much meaner!


Eric, is the dioramic explanation helping?
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Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 01:15 AM UTC
Chas, your diorama tutorial is helping me. I would one day like to try my hand at building one. Great work so far on the Hurricane!
youngc
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 12:56 AM UTC
Thanks Alex,
Bases really add a lot to the overall scene presentation. I am glad to be able to help.
youngc
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:00 PM UTC
Here is some more progress on the base. For my particular scene, I used static grass, which is home-made and flock from Woodland Scenics.

Pre-Shading is wonderful, it really makes a difference to the outcome!


Coming up next is the landing gear and camoflage upper surfaces.

Please let me know what you think.

Chas
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:54 PM UTC
Hi Chas!

I've followed your thread with interest! Very nice work, I'm gonna try your diorama base technique one day! And I like your helpers a lot!

1) Where does the sand filter come from, it doesn't look injection moulded?
2) Might be a silly question but I have never seen those square Tamiya bottles at my latitudes (more or less straight through the globe from you!). Are they the same Tamiya paints as the ones in the spray cans?
Regards

Magnus
youngc
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:10 PM UTC
G'day Magnus and thanks for the feedback,

To answer your questions,

1) The tropical filter comes from Revell's Hurricane IIc kit. It had to be sanded down, glued and puttied, but it was a surprisingly good fit.

2) Not silly at all. They are Tamiya enamel paints. As you may know, Tamiya does Enamel, Acrylic and spray cans. I've never used spray cans but I do use Acrylics.

I use Enamels on hot days, because of the long drying time. On cooler days, I use Acrylics which comes out of the airbrush better, but has a short drying time (therefore unusable on a 40 degree celsius day).

Hope this helps,

Chas
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Posted: Friday, March 28, 2008 - 08:13 PM UTC
Magnus, those square Tamiya bottles are Tamiya Enamels. Genaerally most hobby shops here in Australia only stock Tamiya acrylics and not their Enamels- but some do. The colour range mirrors the acrylic range.

Chas, love the work you're doing. Only noticed this thread today but will keep up with it now.

Andrew
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 02:18 AM UTC
Hi guys!
Chas, you're doing really good job. Your tips&tricks of diorama building will be quite usefull for me, I hope )

Few months ago I built the similar Hurrie IIc but it was a Revell model. Check it out.



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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 02:59 AM UTC
Czesc Michal,

Nice Hurricane, those gun barrels look great, scratch-built I assume. How did you do them?

Mike.
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 08:53 PM UTC
Hi Jack,

Could I have my thread back? Nah, no worries! That is a great Hurricane and I agree the scratch-built cannons are very good.

I did auto-levels to make the progress stand out in the photos:


A small piece of tree root was added to represent a small bush. Some preserved moss was used for the foliage. The tall grass is made from hemp/jute twine cut and then glued to the base:

Progress on the landing gear:


4 days left till deadline!

Chas
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 09:41 PM UTC
Watching this one with interest
I had the same "step" issue with my Finnish Hurricane last year.
Im especially interested in your diorama base technique.
Good luck reaching your deadline
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:02 PM UTC
Chas, this is really coming on, I love the diorama tutorial, thanks.

Mal
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Posted: Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:10 PM UTC
Oops .... Sorry for hijacking your thread
The diorama looks fantastic Chas, well done. I wonder if we'll be seeing this as an Aeroscale Feature some day soon ...
Just one question, how did you do the homemade grass (the shorter green stuff from earlier on)
Thanks,
Mike
youngc
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 01:46 AM UTC
Nah no worries,

Michal did a great job on that Hurricane. It would probably be better off in a separate thread but it's good he is sharing his work.

It would be a great honour to have this displayed as a feature but that is for the editors to decide

The static grass there is made from hemp rope, also known as jute twine. It is a type of string. Using scissors, I cut the string up into little 'hairs' and painted it green with an airbrush.


Thanks Mal and Nigel for dropping by,

Chas
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Posted: Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 04:54 AM UTC
Great job so far.The ground work is great.
Keep sending
youngc
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:07 AM UTC
Thanks Pedro,

I did some tests with my airbrush. I bought a bran-spanking-new needle especially for this occasion!

Chas
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:57 AM UTC
Hi Chas

Excellent progress! The groundwork looks worthy of running as a How-To Feature in its own right - it'd be a real help to people.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 - 08:49 PM UTC
Very nice build and fantastic in-progress "tale"!
i have built a revell hurri II.c. a year ago.In progress of that the german hurri "cannibalized" the korean one
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Posted: Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:26 PM UTC
Thanks for the explanation on the grass Chas, I would never have thought of using twine in such a way. Don't worry about the camo pattern. I did my first one only recently with blu-tac and I was happy with it, you can check it out here
youngc
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 01:18 AM UTC
Had some airbrush trouble, spitting water, but luckily I'm using enamels so the paintwork is not effected badly. I've sent off for an in-line water filter in addition to the one already on the compressor (what a crap job that's doing).

Rowan, If a feature would be helpful, I would be most happy to do one.

Mike, Yea, the camo airbrushing is not as difficult as I thought, it's turning out quite well for me so far.

Thanks for all the encouragement,

Chas
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 08:33 PM UTC
Looking good Chas. The blu-tac's the business for this kind of job too. I once used children's plasticine (on the advice of a friend). It left an oily residue and was a nightmare to get off as lots of little bits were stuck like glue. The blu-tac just peels off in one go leaving everything, including the paint, perfect.