Edo, great progress shots! Looking really nice!
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Two Seater Campaign F.2b - Edo
RAGIII
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 12:17 PM UTC
edoardo
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Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 11:54 PM UTC
Hey Gregory and Rick!
Thank you very much, friends!
Terri, just to expand my vocaboulary:
I thought turnbuckels were like that...
ciao
Edo
Thank you very much, friends!
Terri, just to expand my vocaboulary:
I thought turnbuckels were like that...
ciao
Edo
NickZour
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 12:47 AM UTC
Congratulations Mr. Edorado 
Cheers Nick
Cheers Nick
Mgunns
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Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2010 - 01:58 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I thought turnbuckels were like that...
Hi Edo:
That's a pulley. Those little eyelets that you made are the turnbuckles. Your model is really looking sweet. You really did a great job with the interior detailing. I am looking forward to more pictures as you post them.
Repainted
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 09:23 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Thank you Larsa!
I like the effect of the preshade too, but after airbrushing a coat of CDL I am not sure of how it turned out... maybe it is due to bad light last night in the basement where I work, and in the sunlight it will be ok, but I am not completely satisfied.
What do you think?
Enough for now...
Ciao Ciao
Edo
Hi Edo
Sorry for been slow with my answer, the hobby desk is prio one
I love the effect you come up with. looking great. U can always use a lighter grey as base colour mixing some white in the grey, then u even can mix some white in the linencolor too light it up abit.This is not the case, but you can always make diffrent shades and tones in the linen color. Otherwise if u having just one colour on all planes they don´t get "personal", and the shelf will be more interesting if the colour differs. Ivé seen so much modelshelfs in my days there all paints are the same, you get bored in an instant. But this is just crazy me and my way to get everthing complecated For the moment I wished you could hear my wife, she having her moment now Larsa
edoardo
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Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 - 09:24 PM UTC
Hi folks!
It has been a while, but I've not been sittin' on my hands!
Lars, thank you friend! I understand what you say... as it happens I sometimes feel as I have a homework to do (try to duplicate what you master show me on the site) and I forget that different approaches are possible.
Is your wife ok again? Have you found a way to calm her down?
Anyway, I went a bit further and here are some new pics for you, I hope you'll like them and, of course, any comment is highly appreciated!
Here is a side view:
and a detail of the exhaust:
This is a detail of the cockpit:
This is the propeller:
and these are the wings:
The carrier film of the decals is very thin, which is good as they adhere very well to the surface, but they are very fragile... also I found that they have a much longer time to rinse and came off... I have to thank Nick if I did not ended up with waisting them all, I managed to damage just one of them; I hope you can see how I repainted it with oils in the following pic (bottom part of the cockarde).
I have enhanced the contrast and bightness to show it better.
My last pics are from the tail section:
This is all for now!
Ciao
Edo
It has been a while, but I've not been sittin' on my hands!
Lars, thank you friend! I understand what you say... as it happens I sometimes feel as I have a homework to do (try to duplicate what you master show me on the site) and I forget that different approaches are possible.
Is your wife ok again? Have you found a way to calm her down?
Anyway, I went a bit further and here are some new pics for you, I hope you'll like them and, of course, any comment is highly appreciated!
Here is a side view:
and a detail of the exhaust:
This is a detail of the cockpit:
This is the propeller:
and these are the wings:
The carrier film of the decals is very thin, which is good as they adhere very well to the surface, but they are very fragile... also I found that they have a much longer time to rinse and came off... I have to thank Nick if I did not ended up with waisting them all, I managed to damage just one of them; I hope you can see how I repainted it with oils in the following pic (bottom part of the cockarde).
I have enhanced the contrast and bightness to show it better.
My last pics are from the tail section:
This is all for now!
Ciao
Edo
CaptainA
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:47 AM UTC
It is looking good. I really like how the pilots seat looks in there.
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:57 AM UTC
Carl is right , looking good so far Edo .
Nice job done on the prop as well !
Nice job done on the prop as well !
gajouette
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 02:38 AM UTC
Edo,
Congratulations my friend this project well on it's way to being your finest effort..Your attention to details and hard work are truly paying off.Keep up your excellent progress.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
PS: The pilots seat is Outstanding
Congratulations my friend this project well on it's way to being your finest effort..Your attention to details and hard work are truly paying off.Keep up your excellent progress.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
PS: The pilots seat is Outstanding
Mgunns
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 06:02 AM UTC
Really looking nice Edo! Your attention to detail is noteworthy, and the preshading really sets it off. Great job. 
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
edoardo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 09:48 PM UTC
Carl, Terri, Gregory and Mark
thank you all for the kind worlds! You've been much more than kind!
One of the things I surely have to improve is how I deal with seams... they just don't turn out as they should no metter how much putty I use and notwhistanding my efforts with the sand paper
I have another question for you:
the plane was fitted to carry some bomb too, I am not sure if I'll use them though, but if so I think that there should be some kind of release machanism to unload them. I think that, at the time, it was quite simple: a string to pull or something like that. My question is: where did that string connect to the bomb? Where did that string connect to the cockpit? How did it travel through the wing?
As always thank you in advance for your advice and support!
ciao
Edo
thank you all for the kind worlds! You've been much more than kind!
One of the things I surely have to improve is how I deal with seams... they just don't turn out as they should no metter how much putty I use and notwhistanding my efforts with the sand paper
I have another question for you:
the plane was fitted to carry some bomb too, I am not sure if I'll use them though, but if so I think that there should be some kind of release machanism to unload them. I think that, at the time, it was quite simple: a string to pull or something like that. My question is: where did that string connect to the bomb? Where did that string connect to the cockpit? How did it travel through the wing?
As always thank you in advance for your advice and support!
ciao
Edo
NickZour
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Posted: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 - 01:06 AM UTC
It looks very nice
Try to smoke the exhausts, dust a little bit the wheels & some oils from the engine
You are much faster than me, good luck with the fit of the upper wing (I've got some serious problems
) & the rigging! 
Cheers Nick
Try to smoke the exhausts, dust a little bit the wheels & some oils from the engine
You are much faster than me, good luck with the fit of the upper wing (I've got some serious problems
) & the rigging! Cheers Nick
edoardo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 10:45 PM UTC
Hi Nick!
Thank you for the kind worlds! I'll try what you said...
As far as the wings fitting is concerned, I have to say that I did not encounter any major problem (fortunately!). To tell the truth I drilled the holes a little wider to make it simpler to attach the sturds...
I also have some pics for you.
The first I want to show is of some details I added to the wings:
Next is the hood. I cut the glass out a sheet of plastic (I think it was the ham package from the grocery store ! as the kid don't include any)
After that I started rigging the tail. I am quite satisfied with the look of the turnbuckles, but I have to recongnise that 0,2mm line is too thick. Maybe not as much as the diameter itself, but it is too rigid, and what it bends does it not in a sharp way (I hope I made myself understood, even if I know it is a very clumsy english!). Anyway, a pic is still the better way to show what I'm saying:
As you can see I predrilled the control horns (they are quite thick, a bit out of scale I'd say) and I succeded in applying double control wires for the rudder.
Not so for the elevators: I forgot to predrill the holes and I was not able to do it after the were in place. So I had to settle to have a singl control cable there, as you can see from the last picture.
Enough for now!
ciao
Edo
Thank you for the kind worlds! I'll try what you said...
As far as the wings fitting is concerned, I have to say that I did not encounter any major problem (fortunately!). To tell the truth I drilled the holes a little wider to make it simpler to attach the sturds...
I also have some pics for you.
The first I want to show is of some details I added to the wings:
Next is the hood. I cut the glass out a sheet of plastic (I think it was the ham package from the grocery store ! as the kid don't include any)
After that I started rigging the tail. I am quite satisfied with the look of the turnbuckles, but I have to recongnise that 0,2mm line is too thick. Maybe not as much as the diameter itself, but it is too rigid, and what it bends does it not in a sharp way (I hope I made myself understood, even if I know it is a very clumsy english!). Anyway, a pic is still the better way to show what I'm saying:
As you can see I predrilled the control horns (they are quite thick, a bit out of scale I'd say) and I succeded in applying double control wires for the rudder.
Not so for the elevators: I forgot to predrill the holes and I was not able to do it after the were in place. So I had to settle to have a singl control cable there, as you can see from the last picture.
Enough for now!
ciao
Edo
NickZour
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:25 PM UTC
Wow, so fast & nice!
The only think that I don't like it's the silvering in some decals
Good luck with the ending part
A question: "I have to thank Nick..." , in an older post, do you mean me?
Cheers Nick
The only think that I don't like it's the silvering in some decals
Good luck with the ending part
A question: "I have to thank Nick..." , in an older post, do you mean me?
Cheers Nick
edoardo
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:39 PM UTC
Hi Nick!
You are right: the silvering is not nice, but it has been exagerated by the camera flash...
I'll have to dig for some advice on it though...
By the way, yes "that" Nick is you...
ciao
Edo
You are right: the silvering is not nice, but it has been exagerated by the camera flash...
I'll have to dig for some advice on it though...
By the way, yes "that" Nick is you...
ciao
Edo
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 12:24 AM UTC
Looking good Edo , your project is moving along very nicely indeed .
Have you tried using smoke invisible thread ? It's prefect for 1/48 scale .
Have you tried using smoke invisible thread ? It's prefect for 1/48 scale .
Mgunns
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 02:46 AM UTC
Really looking good Edo. The turnbuckles on the control are exceptional, the little details on the wings really set it off. On the silvering, if you put tiny scratches in the carrier with an exacto knife, and then wet it with decal solvent it will take that out.Best
Mark
gajouette
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 03:02 AM UTC
Edo,
My friend you should be proud of this project.Excellent work my friend.Your rigging and turnbuckles are very realistic.Mark's thoughts on taking care of the silvering should all that's needed to correct the problems with the decals.Keep up the excellent work,look forward to the next update.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
My friend you should be proud of this project.Excellent work my friend.Your rigging and turnbuckles are very realistic.Mark's thoughts on taking care of the silvering should all that's needed to correct the problems with the decals.Keep up the excellent work,look forward to the next update.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
edoardo
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Posted: Monday, March 29, 2010 - 04:44 AM UTC
Hi all!
Thank you for the tips!
Mark, I tryed what you said and it worked very well! Thank you friend! I used some small copper wires as a sort of brush, it produced little 'scars' on the decal and then I applied the solvent. I am happy with the result, I'll show you some pics.
Terri, I saw in your threads that you use 'smoke invisible thread' and I am sure you also explained what it is, but could you please tell it once more? In my local sport shop there is only bluish or orangish (!?) fishing line... that I have to repaint.
It takes paint well, but the risk of overpainting is very high...
Gregory, thank you very much! I like how the turnbuckles have tured out, even if it is difficult to deal with them. In fact it is much easyer to scratch the wing while working with tweezers (now I have applied some tape to protect the paint, but some damages have been made). Also, I have not followed a correct procedure of producing the turnbuckles. In fact I had to cut a loophole to make a hook in order to join them to the wing. Instead I should have made a loophole with another one already connected with it... I'll show you some pics to make myself clear...
Anyway, the rigging is goin' on steadly, and even if painful (expecially on the double fly wire) I am satisied with it... I'll show some pics soon.
ciao
Edo
Thank you for the tips!
Mark, I tryed what you said and it worked very well! Thank you friend! I used some small copper wires as a sort of brush, it produced little 'scars' on the decal and then I applied the solvent. I am happy with the result, I'll show you some pics.
Terri, I saw in your threads that you use 'smoke invisible thread' and I am sure you also explained what it is, but could you please tell it once more? In my local sport shop there is only bluish or orangish (!?) fishing line... that I have to repaint.
It takes paint well, but the risk of overpainting is very high...
Gregory, thank you very much! I like how the turnbuckles have tured out, even if it is difficult to deal with them. In fact it is much easyer to scratch the wing while working with tweezers (now I have applied some tape to protect the paint, but some damages have been made). Also, I have not followed a correct procedure of producing the turnbuckles. In fact I had to cut a loophole to make a hook in order to join them to the wing. Instead I should have made a loophole with another one already connected with it... I'll show you some pics to make myself clear...
Anyway, the rigging is goin' on steadly, and even if painful (expecially on the double fly wire) I am satisied with it... I'll show some pics soon.
ciao
Edo
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, March 29, 2010 - 07:18 AM UTC
Edo, Model On please!
edoardo
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:10 AM UTC
Hi all!
I have a fiew photos for you, kind folks!
First I'll show you my method for makeing the turnbuckles: if any of you has anything to add, please feel free to do so, the collective intelligence will perfect the technique!
So let's start:
first you have to get some copper wire. Mine comes from a useless SCART cable (SCART cable is used in Europe to connect the TV to the recorder, it is a multi-pin connector so in scrapeing one you can have a lot of wires). The diameter of the single copper wire is about 0,1 mm.
By the way, I used this kind of wire as a brush to scratch the surface of the decals so that the next painting with diluent would eliminate the silvering.
Than, you have to make yourself an hinstrument to do the loopholes. Here is mine, a 0,4 mm brass tube bent and fixed to a toothpic.
Next you take about 3 cm of wire, bend it on the hook and, while holding it with a clip, twist the toothpic till the loophole is made (the tightest the better)
Afert the first loophole is made, repeat the same procedure with another wire, but, before start twisting, insert the previously made loophole in the new one.
Next, cut it properly and insert it into a brass tube (or stretched q-tip) of the appropriate length (2-3 mm).
Here is the final result.
What do you think? Can this procedure be improved?
I'll show now some detail of the rigging.
As you can see, I did not thought of masking the area near the sturds ending with lot of scratches .
Not knowing how to fix those properly, I decided to let them as you see now, but if you have a better idea I'll be glad to give it a try.
That is all for now!
Ciao
Edo
I have a fiew photos for you, kind folks!
First I'll show you my method for makeing the turnbuckles: if any of you has anything to add, please feel free to do so, the collective intelligence will perfect the technique!
So let's start:
first you have to get some copper wire. Mine comes from a useless SCART cable (SCART cable is used in Europe to connect the TV to the recorder, it is a multi-pin connector so in scrapeing one you can have a lot of wires). The diameter of the single copper wire is about 0,1 mm.
By the way, I used this kind of wire as a brush to scratch the surface of the decals so that the next painting with diluent would eliminate the silvering.
Than, you have to make yourself an hinstrument to do the loopholes. Here is mine, a 0,4 mm brass tube bent and fixed to a toothpic.
Next you take about 3 cm of wire, bend it on the hook and, while holding it with a clip, twist the toothpic till the loophole is made (the tightest the better)
Afert the first loophole is made, repeat the same procedure with another wire, but, before start twisting, insert the previously made loophole in the new one.
Next, cut it properly and insert it into a brass tube (or stretched q-tip) of the appropriate length (2-3 mm).
Here is the final result.
What do you think? Can this procedure be improved?
I'll show now some detail of the rigging.
As you can see, I did not thought of masking the area near the sturds ending with lot of scratches
. Not knowing how to fix those properly, I decided to let them as you see now, but if you have a better idea I'll be glad to give it a try.
That is all for now!
Ciao
Edo
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:13 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi all!
Thank you for the tips!
Mark, I tryed what you said and it worked very well! Thank you friend! I used some small copper wires as a sort of brush, it produced little 'scars' on the decal and then I applied the solvent. I am happy with the result, I'll show you some pics.
Terri, I saw in your threads that you use 'smoke invisible thread' and I am sure you also explained what it is, but could you please tell it once more? In my local sport shop there is only bluish or orangish (!?) fishing line... that I have to repaint.
It takes paint well, but the risk of overpainting is very high...
Gregory, thank you very much! I like how the turnbuckles have tured out, even if it is difficult to deal with them. In fact it is much easyer to scratch the wing while working with tweezers (now I have applied some tape to protect the paint, but some damages have been made). Also, I have not followed a correct procedure of producing the turnbuckles. In fact I had to cut a loophole to make a hook in order to join them to the wing. Instead I should have made a loophole with another one already connected with it... I'll show you some pics to make myself clear...
Anyway, the rigging is goin' on steadly, and even if painful (expecially on the double fly wire) I am satisied with it... I'll show some pics soon.
ciao
Edo
Hi Edo
The smoke invisible thread which I talk about lot's ( just love the stuff ) you can pick up at a fabric shop ( a place where us Ladies shop for sewing supplies ) It's mono line . I love your rigging , but I do find what you are using for your rigging line in 48 scale is just a tad to over scale making your turnbuckles over scale as well . But this is just me . You have done a wonderful job on the rigging and it has not gone un-notice . You can also get the invisible line in clear as well which takes paint very well and can be coloured with a sharpie marker . With every build you do your skills are improving which has been a real joy to follow As Stephen say's .......Please Model on !
edoardo
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hi Terri,
thak you for the explanation!
By the way: you Ladies do always have a secret "weapon" that flatter us Gents!
Too big turnbuckles, you said?... mmm... I can agree with you, but in order to make them smaller I shuld use 0,4 mm brass tube with 0,1 mm mono but my copper wire loopholes won't fit...
Got to think about it and make a fiew tries....
ciao
Edo
thak you for the explanation!
By the way: you Ladies do always have a secret "weapon" that flatter us Gents!
Too big turnbuckles, you said?... mmm... I can agree with you, but in order to make them smaller I shuld use 0,4 mm brass tube with 0,1 mm mono but my copper wire loopholes won't fit...
Got to think about it and make a fiew tries....
ciao
Edo
gajouette
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:02 AM UTC
Edo,
I agree with Terri about your turnbuckle being slightly over scale,none the less your rigging is excellent my friend.Other than that your rigging technique is outstanding. Using the the same sized turnbuckles really look perfect in 1/32 scale if you should ever decide to upscale. Keep up your excellent progress.Looking forward to your next update.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
I agree with Terri about your turnbuckle being slightly over scale,none the less your rigging is excellent my friend.Other than that your rigging technique is outstanding. Using the the same sized turnbuckles really look perfect in 1/32 scale if you should ever decide to upscale. Keep up your excellent progress.Looking forward to your next update.
Regards,
Gregory Jouette
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 06:13 AM UTC
Very nicely done.
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