2013 will see the 55th Anniversary of the first flight of the F-4 Phantom. To celebrate this, I propose a campaign dedicated to The Rhino, Tomb, Double Ugly - The Phabulous Phantom.
Scale - 1/144 to 1/32
Start Date - 27 May 2013 (anniversary of first flight)
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Hosted by Frederick Boucher, Michael Satin
Campaign Proposal: 55 Years of PhabPhantoms
RedwingNev
Joined: February 07, 2004
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Posted: Friday, August 03, 2012 - 08:49 PM UTC
ltb073
Joined: March 08, 2010
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 01:49 AM UTC
I havent built a Phantom in over 30 years and I dont have 1 in the stash but being that you are proposing a start date just under a year from now I guess I will have to start looking for 1 
pantherkid
Joined: September 18, 2011
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 04:00 AM UTC
Love the idea, The company I work with we are still making parts for the Phantom. I guess that is why I'm on a Phantom kick right now. Looking forward to this. Rick
Mustanger
Joined: July 06, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 05:12 AM UTC
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2013 will see the 55th Anniversary of the first flight of the F-4 Phantom. To celebrate this, I propose a campaign dedicated to The Rhino, Tomb, Double Ugly - The Phabulous Phantom.
Scale - 1/144 to 1/32
Start Date - 27 May 2013 (anniversary of first flight)
27 May 2013?
I can handle that.
I'm in
Tomcat31
#042
Joined: November 18, 2006
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 06:33 AM UTC
55th is a bit of an odd anniversary to celebrate 
It's been a while since the last Phantom Campaign (2008) which was to celebrate the 50th Anniversary Phabulous Phantom
Either way if there is enough interest I will probably start the campaign on the 1st May for six months to fall in line with the current format of starting one campaign a month.
It's been a while since the last Phantom Campaign (2008) which was to celebrate the 50th Anniversary Phabulous Phantom
Either way if there is enough interest I will probably start the campaign on the 1st May for six months to fall in line with the current format of starting one campaign a month.
Fister30
Joined: May 11, 2012
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 11:39 AM UTC
You can count me in!!
RedwingNev
Joined: February 07, 2004
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Posted: Saturday, August 04, 2012 - 07:21 PM UTC
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55th is a bit of an odd anniversary to celebrate
How about if you write it Phifty Phifth?
Thats what I wanted to write originally but it wouldn't fit in the title box and the wife was hassling me for the PC.
Torchy
#047
Joined: September 13, 2005
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 01:46 AM UTC
I'm in ,I love a Phantom 
vanize
Joined: January 30, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 02:49 AM UTC
count me in.
RedwingNev
Joined: February 07, 2004
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Posted: Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 07:43 AM UTC
That's 7 so far...looking good.
Anyone fancy a crack at a banner? I'm no good at that kind of thing, but maybe the Phantom figure with a 55 instead of a II on his chest?
Anyone fancy a crack at a banner? I'm no good at that kind of thing, but maybe the Phantom figure with a 55 instead of a II on his chest?
SGTJKJ
#041
Joined: July 20, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 07:59 AM UTC
I am on for this one.
Now it is only to decide whether to go for a Luftwaffe Phantom in a camouflage of greens or a Vietnam Phantom in SEA camo.
Now it is only to decide whether to go for a Luftwaffe Phantom in a camouflage of greens or a Vietnam Phantom in SEA camo.
phantom_phanatic309
#372
Joined: March 10, 2010
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 08:41 AM UTC
I am in with this build!
It will probably take me that long to decide which of the F-4's in my stash to do.
It will probably take me that long to decide which of the F-4's in my stash to do.
md72
#439
Joined: November 05, 2005
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 09:03 AM UTC
OK, I'll bite. I've got 6 or 7 Phantoms in the stash. Leaving out the Revell 1/32 F-4J (too big and I'll never get it done in a campaign timeframe), I've still got 1 (2?) R-M 1/48 kits and 4 in 1/72; Fujimii RF-4B, (US)Airfix F-4D, Hasagawa F-4E and Italerai F-4G.
So given that I'm a sloooow builder, any ideas which one might the the better choice? I'm leaning towards the Hase or the Fuji.
So given that I'm a sloooow builder, any ideas which one might the the better choice? I'm leaning towards the Hase or the Fuji.
RedwingNev
Joined: February 07, 2004
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 04:43 AM UTC
Mark, is it the old or new tool Hasegawa? New tool is the most accurate and detailed in 1/72, but quite fiddly due to the modular nature of the moulds so as to get as many variants as possible, old tool ain't so great. Fujimi J-79 engined variants are easier to build than Hasegawa, but not as accurate or detailed, Fujimi Spey engined variants are superb. Avoid the Airfix or Italeri unless you like a challenge 
And by my count, that makes 10 - are we a go?
And by my count, that makes 10 - are we a go?
md72
#439
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 05:25 AM UTC
I suspect that the Hase is a 2nd gen tool. I'll have to dig it out. I have the Fujimi under my desk, looks like some of the same as many planes from 1 mold thinking too. The Italari and Airfix are in the stash some where, so I haven looked in years.
Since I have a terrible completion percentage, I think I'll opt for the Fujimi. I don't want to have months of filling and sanding left at the end of the campaign.
Since I have a terrible completion percentage, I think I'll opt for the Fujimi. I don't want to have months of filling and sanding left at the end of the campaign.
Torchy
#047
Joined: September 13, 2005
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 05:51 AM UTC
what ever happened to the new Fujimi 1/48 F-4 in the "Sundowners " markings due for release last year?
phantom_phanatic309
#372
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 06:03 AM UTC
I had heard that Academy were also doing a new F-4B in 1/72 scale a while ago and then not much since.
Anyway, I'm seriously giving thought to a Fujimi FGR.1 in FAA colours or an FGR.2 in 6 Sqn markings from an old Modeldecal sheet. But there is also the 1:48 Revell F-4D my girlfriend bought me that she's been badgering me to finally do. Decisions????
Anyway, I'm seriously giving thought to a Fujimi FGR.1 in FAA colours or an FGR.2 in 6 Sqn markings from an old Modeldecal sheet. But there is also the 1:48 Revell F-4D my girlfriend bought me that she's been badgering me to finally do. Decisions????
Torchy
#047
Joined: September 13, 2005
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 06:23 AM UTC
Freddy fifty five can't wait for this too start
Tomcat31
#042
Joined: November 18, 2006
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 07:26 AM UTC
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Once you submit the proposal on the campaign page it can be And by my count, that makes 10 - are we a go?
md72
#439
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:27 AM UTC
I think it was supposed to be:
Once you submit the proposal on the campaign page it can be.
Once you submit the proposal on the campaign page it can be.
BlackWidow
Joined: August 09, 2009
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:46 AM UTC
Oh yes, a Phantom campaign would be nice. I have soooo many F-4 in my stash. As I have really nice decals of a Turkish Panther Sqn, I might go for that. Or should I build an "F" of the German Bundesluftwaffe with special markings? My Eurofighter needs some company .....
Anyway, May next year suits me well. I guess I'll join the party.
Oh, and of course "Spooky" must be in the banner and ribbon!!!
Anyway, May next year suits me well. I guess I'll join the party.
Oh, and of course "Spooky" must be in the banner and ribbon!!!
RedwingNev
Joined: February 07, 2004
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 08:36 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextOnce you submit the proposal on the campaign page it can beAnd by my count, that makes 10 - are we a go?
Submitted
Couple of rule additions:
Prompted by the discovery that I had an unfinished F-4EJ in the last Phantom campaign, I'm going to allow unfinished builds in this campaign - provided they were entered in a previous Aeroscale campaign . Evidence must be provided.
What-Ifs not allowed, unless they are a real, proposed variant (evidence must be provided). So an in-service Israeli Kurnass 2000 would be acceptable, an Imperial Roman F-4 would not.
Not a rule, but I would like to see as many of the users of the F-4 represented as possible (bagsy me Japan and Greece
)
tinbanger
Joined: February 04, 2008
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Posted: Friday, August 10, 2012 - 10:39 PM UTC
Count me in!
mykroft
Joined: November 14, 2009
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Posted: Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 01:23 AM UTC
I'm in, not sure what I'll do but I've got a couple sheets in the stash that need models, one F-4F in the stash that needs building and I'm drooling over that Sundowners F-4B boxing that Academy is apparently going to finally release this fall. I'll find something to do then.
Tomcat31
#042
Joined: November 18, 2006
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Posted: Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 11:10 PM UTC
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I'm sorry but we can't allow this rule as it would be unfair to those that are starting from the beginning. (especially if the entrant from a previous campaign was at the decalling or weathering stage). Prompted by the discovery that I had an unfinished F-4EJ in the last Phantom campaign, I'm going to allow unfinished builds in this campaign - provided they were entered in a previous Aeroscale campaign. Evidence must be provided.
We have the Hanger Queen campaign each year, so members can enter their part built kits and campaign entries and still get a ribbon for all their efforts.
There is an unwritten rule however that a kit that normally is around 10% to 15% started can be entered at the campaign leaders discretion. so I will amend the rules to that effect instead.
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