OFFICIAL: Bent Wing Birds Campaign
MichaelSatin
Campaigns AdministratorColorado, United States
Joined: January 19, 2008
KitMaker: 3,909 posts
AeroScale: 2,904 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 12:09 PM UTC
Welcome to the Bent Wing Birds Campaign, and thanks to Bob for leading it! This campaign is all about aircraft with wings that aren't, well, straight. The campaign will run from 1 December, 2019 through 1 June, 2020.
If you want to see the rules and sign up, go
here. Post campaign related discussion and in-progress photos in this thread. Pics of finished models should be posted in the
campaign gallery.
Looking forward to models of those airplanes with cranked wings!
Michael
On the bench:
Sorta depends on your definition of "on the bench"...
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 01:36 PM UTC
Thought I'd signed up for this one. Now I gotta go dig out a Corsair.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
Texas, United States
Joined: February 22, 2008
KitMaker: 5,026 posts
AeroScale: 2,811 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 01:44 PM UTC
Mark, Ill do an F4U also. Tamiya F4U-1
If it aint broke dont fix it.
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Joined: March 22, 2015
KitMaker: 671 posts
AeroScale: 614 posts
Posted: Saturday, November 30, 2019 - 09:20 PM UTC
Hello fellow modelers!
Well, I think the Corsair is the classical bent-wing and I really found one in my stash. But, Bob reminded me in his post that the Gannet, as the Corsair, has an inverted gull wing, too (Thank You for this
). So, this will be my entry: Revell Fairey Gannett in 1/72 scale.
Oliver
On the desk: Probably a Panzer III.
Uusimaa, Finland
Joined: October 01, 2016
KitMaker: 514 posts
AeroScale: 239 posts
Posted: Monday, December 02, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
Here's my entry:
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 05:09 AM UTC
Hi Guys first post.
I felt like building a Corsair and pulled one out of the stash. Can it really be 20 years old! I decided to join Aeroscale when I saw the radial engine fighter group build and was about to jump in with this project and then saw your Bent Wing Birds Campaign. Decisions, decisions. Went with the obvious - a Bent Wing - so here I am. Count me in.
Apologies in advance if I get the photo upload wrong.
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 02:38 PM UTC
Here's my attempt. A Fuimi-AHM release of the 1/72 F4U-5N. Don't know how old this kit is, but the kit number ends in -50. Wonder if it went for 50 cents back in the day. Lines and details look pretty close to a F4U-5N. No painting instructions, but I'm guessing for a Marine night fighter, overall matte black seems appropriate.
Now I need to buy a lot of luck. When I went to lay down some interior green, the circuits were out in my paint shop.
Hopefully I can get started soon.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
North Carolina, United States
Joined: April 29, 2014
KitMaker: 1,112 posts
AeroScale: 67 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 01:14 AM UTC
Scalemates says 1968
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/fujimi-ahm-fc-11-50-f4u-5n-corsair--205301Someone has built the kit before, you can see where you might have some issues.
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/261717-fujimi-f4u-5n-172/You can go black but with those markings probably GSB. I do find the tail code marking interesting as RM was used by VMC-1 in Korea but they where a Skyraider unit (GSB) not a Corsair unit. Didn't think they had different aircraft til after Korea when they became VMCJ-1 days.
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 07:30 AM UTC
Starting to wonder if it's bad research. RM was the tail code for VMC-1, but they operated Skyraiders in Korea. Might be MR for VMA-332 who did operate F4U-4's in Korea. But I haven't confirmed if they used -5Ns.
Thanks for the link to the build article. It's an old kit, I'm expecting problems, but there might not be as many as I expect.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 12:28 PM UTC
Your Fujimi Corsair is a blast from the past. Last time I built that it was a twist off the sprue and glue job - total construction time 30 minutes. I think after some time collecting dust on the ramp it was downed by anti-aircraft fire (an air rifle at 10 yards).
I'll watch this build with interest.
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 01:55 PM UTC
Well, the best my internet research has turned up is VMF(N)-513 as the only Marine unit flying -5Ns in Korea. Looks like they were a combined equipment squadron flying F7Fs, F3Ds and F4U-5Ns. Their tail code was WF, in red or white on flat black. The markings were oversprayed with blue(?) to tone down the white.
The photos I've seen suggest that the national marking was a traditional Navy style, with the white star and bars with the red stripe, but no blue, relying on the GSB back ground.
I don't think I'm going to opt for dead nuts historical accuracy. If the decals remain viable, I'm going to stick with the kit markings and try to mist on some GSB to tone them down.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
California, United States
Joined: December 06, 2004
KitMaker: 3,694 posts
AeroScale: 163 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 05:00 PM UTC
Trying to restart my modeling mojo. The engine is painted and that's about it.
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 06:12 PM UTC
Inspiration to build my Tamiya F4U-1D came from the following photo I saw on
www.airpages.ru. - Lt. Dean Caswell's white 183.
The late war glossy sea blue scheme is very interesting with its fading and wear. In certain areas down to what I expect zinc chromate yellow. Trying to replicate this finish with its modest weathering should be fun.
North Carolina, United States
Joined: April 29, 2014
KitMaker: 1,112 posts
AeroScale: 67 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 03:16 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Well, the best my internet research has turned up is VMF(N)-513 as the only Marine unit flying -5Ns in Korea. Looks like they were a combined equipment squadron flying F7Fs, F3Ds and F4U-5Ns. Their tail code was WF, in red or white on flat black. The markings were oversprayed with blue(?) to tone down the white.
The photos I've seen suggest that the national marking was a traditional Navy style, with the white star and bars with the red stripe, but no blue, relying on the GSB back ground.
I don't think I'm going to opt for dead nuts historical accuracy. If the decals remain viable, I'm going to stick with the kit markings and try to mist on some GSB to tone them down.
VMA/VMF-212 also had -5N's.
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 04:24 AM UTC
I thought it was interesting that the decals do not match the box art. However, Fujimi had another boxing where they do match. I do not think this is shown in Scalemates.
MichaelSatin
Campaigns Administrator Colorado, United States
Joined: January 19, 2008
KitMaker: 3,909 posts
AeroScale: 2,904 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 04:54 AM UTC
Not to interrupt, but Jonathan had a ribbon suggestion in the Enlistment thread. What does everyone think?
Michael
On the bench:
Sorta depends on your definition of "on the bench"...
Texas, United States
Joined: February 22, 2008
KitMaker: 5,026 posts
AeroScale: 2,811 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 07:45 AM UTC
@ Gary: welcome back.
@ Ray: I like the photos.
@ Michael: I vote for the ribbon.
Bob
If it aint broke dont fix it.
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 02:15 PM UTC
Michael
I vote for the ribbon. What's more a good rendition of USN tri-color scheme with the outboard underside wing panels in top side colour.
Ray
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 05:57 PM UTC
@ Michael, that's a great idea for a ribbon, really gets to the namesake. I'm amazed at the details still available at that size.
@Ray, I was mostly excited that this WASN'T another F4U-1D when I saw it, so I wasn't really disappointed that the markings didn't match the box top. On the other hand the rest of the artwork really wasn't keeping with the historical niche of the plane. A night fighter flying in the daylight and a post war Navy fighter in early war Blue over White paint scheme.
I think that I'm more disappointed that the markings are completely spurious.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 06:28 PM UTC
Hi Mark, it now makes it easier to make a decision on your F4U-5N. So long as the national insignia hangs together then there are some simple lettering options to get a correct black night fighter. Sharp knife, a quick home made mask and VMF(N)-513 WF tail insignia and a simple aircraft number or alternatively slice up some old decal material in the right colours. All straight pieces. For example:
https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Corsair/VMF513/images/Vought-F4U-5N-Corsair-VMF(N)-513-White-WF17-at-Wonsan-Korea-2nd-Nov-1950-01.jpgYou will also find that with some quick searching you will see that the "Marines" wording was dropped for red lettered aircraft.
New South Wales, Australia
Joined: December 02, 2019
KitMaker: 9 posts
AeroScale: 7 posts
Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 06:31 PM UTC
By the way, my previous comment on the tri-colour scheme was not referring to the spurious Fujimi art work but a poor attempt at humour with the ribbon artwork.
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 04:33 AM UTC
Thanks, Ray
Now you've given me an expensive idea. I do have the old Matchbox F3D-2 in the stash, with the VMF(N)-513 markings (and no Marines decal). Those WFs might fit the Corsair, or I I did see some F7F decals with the WF tails, see if those fit. Or I could just go whole hog and build a VMF(N)-513 group, F4U-5N, F3D-2 and F7F-3N. I've got all 3 kits, I just need the F7F-3N conver$ion kit, and the WF decal$ for the F7F and find some red WF tail codes somewhere.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Joined: March 22, 2015
KitMaker: 671 posts
AeroScale: 614 posts
Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 08:55 AM UTC
Michael,
Cool ribbon. But, don´t we have to expand the ribbon for the inverted gull wing?
Sorry, could not resist this joke. I like it, as it is, very much! So, my opinion, go for it!
Oliver
On the desk: Probably a Panzer III.
#439
Washington, United States
Joined: November 05, 2005
KitMaker: 4,950 posts
AeroScale: 3,192 posts
Posted: Monday, December 23, 2019 - 05:54 PM UTC
Feels like progress, even if the pic is too dark.
just got the fuselage and elevators placed.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
California, United States
Joined: December 06, 2004
KitMaker: 3,694 posts
AeroScale: 163 posts
Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 08:51 AM UTC
I finally got my modeling mojo back and put some paint on the upper surface of the wing on the P.11c. I decided to see if Tamiya XF-51 Khaki Drab was close enough and it looks like it is. It looks browner than the image. It needs a second coat though. Painted by hand.
The problem is that there are ejection pin marks which affect the fine corrugation marks on the lower surface. I haven't figured out what color to use for that.
