1/35th Chinook COMING SOON!!! Pics included
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Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 10:24 AM UTC
Howdy animal,
I think you and I are thinking of some very similar scenes...(if I may be so bold
).
One of the ones coursing thru
my head is the one where the Chinook is landed directly on top of an extremely sheer hill in the 'Nam. Sorry, don't remember which Firebase it was, but both the hilltop and almost all of the surrounding area is
sans foilage......
It's not 875.....darn, wish my memory wasn't leaving me......
Tread.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 11:36 AM UTC
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This ones on the top of my gotta have list now. I can see a lot of wonderful scenes that can be made. 
Animal, Are you being drawn away from the wheels to the Whirlybird side? I hope so, well, not fully, but enough to do both.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 07:30 PM UTC
That's Sweet!!! Can't wait to see that one hit the shelves...
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 04:22 AM UTC
Just when I thought I was in the clear and my stash would get smaller....
This is absolutely great news! I can't wait to get my hands on one. Goal 1 with this beast will be a conversion to the MH-47 used by Night Stalkers. Unless, of course, Tread doesn't buy 5 of them and beat me too it.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 04:31 AM UTC
Howdy Kyle,
"........
Goal 1 with this beast will be a conversion to the MH-47 used by Night Stalkers........"
Sorry Kyle, that ones already in the 'batter's box'....
And just for the record, I'm also looking into backdating the ship maybe and doing a 'Nam era "Guns-a-Go-Go" version as well.
But I'll share a dio idea I'm playin' with. It would be quite the stunner sitting on a modeling contest table....but what the heck!
Build the Chinook depicted as sling loading something below it (artillery piece, jeep, etc) and use a rigid steel rod in place of the taut sling rope. This would give the impression of the Chinook being suspended in mid-air!!
Any thoughts guys?????
Tread.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 04:41 AM UTC
But I'll share a dio idea I'm playin' with. It would be quite the stunner sitting on a modeling contest table....but what the heck!
Build the Chinook depicted as sling loading something below it (artillery piece, jeep, etc) and use a rigid steel rod in place of the taut sling rope. This would give the impression of the Chinook being suspended in mid-air!!
Any thoughts guys?????
Tread.[/quote]
How about a clear plastic or plexi-glass rod and some airborne troopers jumping out the back?
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 05:17 AM UTC
Splinty, I've been working on that Idea for years...
My Ideas were:
1.) Sling loaded AD 'Sandy" being hauled out of a rice paddy by a recovery bird;
2.) 'Jungle Penetrator' descending thru the trees ( a Jolly Green would be better for thisone) to a Pilot in the trees.
Best thing about these is that they have opportunity for multiple attach points. Problem I keep running into is that anything I can find to support the helo squarely is SOOOO out of scale that I can't even bear to look at them- for instance a piece of standard hangar wire works out to
four scale inches in 1:48 scale!
I've even tried running some piano wire thru a die set to give it a "cable" look, but it begins to warp quickly...
If you have any Ideas on overcoming this problem I am ready to hear them...
(great Idea though!
)
[EDIT]-Whoops! guess I should've read this more closely...Looks like TREAD was the one w/the sling idea...credit where due![EDIT]
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 05:19 AM UTC
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"......Those pix are from my post over at the FSM forums (I'm J-Hulk over there), and are from this month's issue of Model Graphix magazine. While Gino and others have mentioned release dates and the kit's suspected Academy/Panda lineage, the accompanying article in Model Graphix contained no information concerning either subject.
Glad to see ya'll enjoyed the pix over here, too!......."
Howdy Shado1 / J-Hulk!
Mighty glad to see you spend some time over here at the big 'A'... Many thx for taking the time to clarify the 'roots' of the info I posted. And hopefully I haven't stepped on any toes by 'in facto' posting them here.....
As far as the "...suspected Academy/Panda lineage...." is concerned, I stand by my earlier statement. The Panda offerings I have purchased are nice to have, but just a tad lacking in the 'accuracy' department IMHO.
Anyway, glad to have the opportunity to mate the FSM J-Hulk with the big 'A' Shado1 moniker.....
Tread.
Howdy, Tread!
Yup, although I mainly post over at FSM, Armorama is definitely a part of my daily rounds! I hope my meager contributions here are appreciated.
No worries at all about your post here! I just wanted to let the folks here know that the pix were from
Model Graphix magazine and give a little background about the article they were from.
I'm with ya all the way on Panda moldings. I'm just not sure the new Trumpeter kit is a "reworking" of the rumored Panda kit or not, and I certainly can't understand any connection to Academy, who hasn't done a CH-47 in any scale.
Anything's possible, though!
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 06:26 AM UTC
Shado1/J-Hulk,
The Panda come Academy to Trumpeter link was confirmed by Chief Snake (Chris Miller) of Cobra Company who was a contributor/consultant on the Academy project. Apparently Academy sold their in-progress work to Trumpeter. Hopefully it will be as good as other Trump large scale helos.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 07:15 AM UTC
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Shado1/J-Hulk,
The Panda come Academy to Trumpeter link was confirmed by Chief Snake (Chris Miller) of Cobra Company who was a contributor/consultant on the Academy project. Apparently Academy sold their in-progress work to Trumpeter. Hopefully it will be as good as other Trump large scale helos.
Thanks, Gino!
Papa-Echo-64 over at FSM just gave me that same info.
And now I know!
Here's hoping it's a good one!
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 07:59 AM UTC
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Nice one .... Some of my best jumps were out the ass end of one of these...I might just have to build me a whirly bird 
GET READY!!!!!!
I have to concur. I JM'ed myself out of one at JM school. The only down side is being the only jumper on a pass, with fifty people below you watching...
I'll be ordering mine as soon as it's available.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:10 AM UTC
The Airmodel or Mouse House M198 would look even better, I agree. The M198 would most likely cost more than the Chinook though. Oh well, one can dream.
The total for my M198 from Airmodel was EU 67. It.s well worth the price, but my only concern is the shroud over the recuperator assembly-it's solid sheet metal, whereas I remember it to be perforated. Are there versions with no holes? My Braun works MUCH better with the screen in place.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:33 AM UTC
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but my only concern is the shroud over the recuperator assembly-it's solid sheet metal, whereas I remember it to be perforated. Are there versions with no holes?
From all the ones I have seen and fired, the shroud is solid.
Hooaaayy!! 
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 08:36 AM UTC
You have no idea. My luck, they'll come out with it and there will not be good interior.
PS - What is the purpose of the shroud?
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:48 AM UTC
drooool.... :-) that thing is massive, now just imagine my favorite helo the CH-53E in 1/35 scale
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 12:00 PM UTC
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PS - What is the purpose of the shroud?
Assuming you mean on the M-198. Helps keep dirt and debris out of the recoil mechanisms.
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The total for my M198 from Airmodel was EU 67. It.s well worth the price,
Sorry, I can't justify almost $90 USD for an M198, way too much. May have to scratch one instead.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 12:14 PM UTC
I've found photos of "the Big Long Schlong" (Hey, I didn't name it) we used at BNCOC. I does indeed have perforations in the shroud, but they are so small that even a Braun razor screen would have the holes grossly out of scale. In fact, the shroud is of sufficient thickness, and the holes so small, that light does pass through it when viewed from an angle. I'm going to post a review on the Artillery newsgroup in a day or two, as some small deficiencies have turned up in the kit that I did not notice without the pics.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 12:16 PM UTC
In fact, the shroud is of sufficient thickness, and the holes so small, that light does pass through it when viewed from an angle.
OOPS! Should read, "...light does NOT pass through it..."
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 04:43 PM UTC
Howdy again fellas,
As I stated earlier, one of my long time desires is to build a 1/35th scale Chinook kit as one of the ships deployed by the 53rd Aviation Detachment (come 228th ASHB) called 'Easy Money'. Although most people who may have read even a little bit about the history of the (originally) "Gunships-a-Go-Go" record might think more highly of 'Birth Control' 's performance, it was in fact, 'Easy Money' who, under direct and intense enemy fire landed herself
between the crippled and grounded 'Birth Control' and the rapidly advancing Viet Cong during the attempt to retake Hue during the Tet Offensive and successfully rescued her crewmen. Even though suffering injuries to her own crew in the process...........
Here is a pic of 'Easy Money' in all her glory.........
Tread.
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Posted: Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 10:48 PM UTC
Now guys think about diorama possibilities!
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 - 04:05 AM UTC
A CHINOOK!!!!, WHAT GREAT NEWS.
now i wish someone would just build a bleedin' USMC CH-46 Sea Knight.
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:41 AM UTC
O.K......I'll be brave enough to ask the obvious.
Just how much work would it
be to convert a CH-47 Chinook to a CH-46 Sea knight, or visa-versa??
Tread.
Hey Gino, you listening in here?
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 - 11:52 AM UTC
Also.....was somebody looking for
Marine Chinook pics??
Here's a couple......
And this one....
Hope that helps.
Tread.
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 - 01:16 PM UTC
Tread, There are some ex-Chinook and Sea Knight drivers that are regulars over at FSM helo forum. They could probably answer your question better. I think it would be doable, but pretty hard.
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Posted: Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:06 PM UTC
As usual Gino, you are one of the chairs at the Round Table.....
Thx.
Tread.
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