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Campaign Idea " Bombs away "
Martinnnn
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:31 AM UTC
A Dutch B-25 in the Dutch East Indies would be my choise


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Can first time poster join in on this? I have a Tamiya 1/48 Lancaster that needs a reason to be finished



Seriously, isn't the kit itself already reason enough to finish it? :-) From what I've been told it's a great kit!
TedMamere
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:42 AM UTC
Hi Don!

Nice to have you with us! I think a Lancaster is great for this group build!

I suggest you to go to the introduction forum to present yourself! You'll receive some nice welcome messages there!

Jean-Luc
rvman
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:43 AM UTC

Seriously, isn't the kit itself already reason enough to finish it? :-) From what I've been told it's a great kit![/quote]


I suffer from a rare form of CFA...(can't finish anything)
I also have the ability to turn a great kit into a harder one. It's a gift....
TreeCat
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:04 PM UTC
JRATZ, my bad for quoting so much of the " war lover "
Erik67
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Posted: Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:36 PM UTC
I have a Guillow 1/28 B-17 somewere in the house. This might be a good oportunity to finally build it
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 01:02 AM UTC

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I have a Guillow 1/28 B-17 somewere in the house. This might be a good oportunity to finally build it



Hi Erik

That sounds odds on favourite to be the biggest entry and will certainly make for some interesting comparisons with plastic models. Will you risk flying it?

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 05:08 AM UTC

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Wow Mal! You are seeing big! Is it the 1/48 Revell/Monogram one! With RAISED panel lines!!!


Yes jean-Luc, I have already made a start on re-scribing the beast
Mal
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 08:58 AM UTC
Hm, I was re-scribing my Monogram B-52 when I remembered this thread and came to have a look. The BUFF will be done before this campaign starts but I do have that Testors B-2 in my closet.......somewhere. The BUFF was just pulled from the garage where the masking tape used to close the box had become transparent and brittle-that's how long it's been waiting for me to get back to it but it was a good deal-$5 on ebay because it was started. The B-2 almost as old and I need an excuse to get it out so count me in.....Mike T
jRatz
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 12:50 PM UTC

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JRATZ, my bad for quoting so much of the " war lover "



Why? Great book, great movie !!!

John
almonkey
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Posted: Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 06:20 PM UTC
i have a roden H 111 pedro i think ill build for this one. apparently from some of the reviews ive read (after i bought it of course!) say it can be a bit of a stinker in certain areas, but as my modelling is taking on a spanish civil war theme at the minute ( i recently bought a heinkel H 70 to be finished as a condor legion aircraft) i might get the box open later today
TreeCat
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 01:17 AM UTC
hi, yes external loads are okay with me on bombers that have them but a P-47 with a bomb rack wasnt exactly what I had in mind. Bombers started out in WW I just as fighter jockies overflying enemy trenches
after recon mission dropping granades and arti . sometimes the lift of the planes wings made the grenades fly back into the laps of the pilots ( Too much history chanel )

thanks for intrest

Tree
Puma112
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 09:31 AM UTC
I like the idea but think the details need to be refined. I think any plane that started out life as a bomber (including dive bombers OH NO!) should be good to go. A TBF and barracuda both have the ABILITY to carry bombs, but their original design was to use torpedoes for attacking ships, So not included.


Tracy

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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 09:38 AM UTC
Hi there

Tracy's maybe hit the nail on the head - regardless of size and internal or external stowage, any entry subject should have been designed as a bomber... A simple definition like that might clarify things.

All the best

Rowan
PolarBear
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 10:16 AM UTC
Hear, hear!



Designated is the word!

Edit: Or is it designed?!?...
jRatz
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 12:17 PM UTC

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Hi there
Tracy's maybe hit the nail on the head - regardless of size and internal or external stowage, any entry subject should have been designed as a bomber... A simple definition like that might clarify things.
Rowan



Works for me, although I would have preferred to stick with what I read original intent to be was the strategic bomber, which could be, depending on country & time-period, about 2-engine & up.

And, as a point, the HP of history & opinion -- the HP, Gotha, Zeppelin, etc, bombers of WW1 are the foundation for all the Douhet, air power is wonderful and can do everything, but in reality unfulfilled, doctrine.

Anyway, depending on the start date for this, I could be in with the new Hasegawa Lancaster.

John
TedMamere
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Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 06:51 PM UTC

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the foundation for all the Douhet, air power is wonderful and can do everything, but in reality unfulfilled, doctrine.



The French payed a heavy tribute following the Giulio Douhet theory. Their planes in the 30', except for the fighters, were almost all "muti-rôle" aircrafts... we know what happened!

The French plane were "bons à rien, mauvais en tout!" ("good for nothing, bad for everything!")

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 05:28 AM UTC
Is this a group build or will it become a campaign .
The reason i'm asking is the postie delivered my Betty today, so shall i start building or wait .
Thanks Andy
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 06:17 AM UTC

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Is this a group build or will it become a campaign



Hi Andy

We won't know for a while - there'll be no new Campaigns until January. I really hope Bombs Away will be approved as the first new Aircraft Campaign, but I can't promise anything.

Sorry, I can't give more info - I just don't have any.

All the best

Rowan
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 06:21 AM UTC
I think Treecat is really going to have to write up some specifics but it sounds as if there is plenty of interest.
TreeCat
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 02:02 AM UTC
Hi Shermies,

Okay im not sure how specfic I need to be...

Time frame: Pre ww II to present ( changed time frame here )
Start Date: January 15, 2006 ( my birthday) End date:
Augest 6,2006 ( changed dates here ) Hiroshima bombed.
Types Of Bombing aircraft allowed : multi engined only
( per you guys)
Nations You May choose: All
X factor: Open Bomb Bay ( if internal ) # I
x factor: full bomb load ( if external ) # 2
x factor is your own personal choice
ground support jeeps, fuel trucks, bombcarts, etc
will count if marked as belonging to a bomber sqadron.

I have never led a campaign before and will be happy to step aside for some one with more know how.

The X factor was chosen by me due to the fact that IMO
a bomber with no bombs or a closed bomb bay is taken out of it's historical context.

Scales : 1/72 Scale and up

Photo: Two in progress two finished. submited to thread or gallery ( I am not verry good with computers
and have NEVER been able to post pics to a thread)
Dioramas: yes if you want too.

Above all I thought this would be a fun idea for a campaign that I hadn't seen any one come up with before.
I am looking forward to doing "bombs away" with all of you in January .

I would like to thank all of you up front for the intrest in making this campaign happen and your imput to the
rough idea I submitted for it.

TreeCat
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 02:46 AM UTC
Thanks Treecat, i can't wait for this campaign to start.
I will proberly change my aircraft as iv'e got a feeling that i might have built my Betty by then. A vac-form kit would be ideal though
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 04:01 AM UTC
TreeCat,

The rules are very clear.
Just have a question, because I do not know enough about planes.

Are those two planes allowed in the campaign?
- Havoc Boston
- Mosquito

Refering to these rules:
- Types Of Bombing aircraft allowed : multi engined only.
and an earlier statement:
- any entry subject should have been designed as a bomber.

Could you let me know?

Paul

PS: Although there are no campaigns allowed before januari, you can allready submit it to the campaign page, as far as I know. I think you can ask GunTruck about that...
ShermiesRule
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 04:03 AM UTC
Haven't built an aircraft in 20 years. However a bomber sounds like a good break from armor
JPTRR
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 04:25 AM UTC
The choice is made, the die is cast. A 1/72 Do-17Z, Balkans campaign.
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 04:28 AM UTC

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Are those two planes allowed in the campaign?
- Havoc Boston
- Mosquito

Refering to these rules:
- Types Of Bombing aircraft allowed : multi engined only.
and an earlier statement:
- any entry subject should have been designed as a bomber.



Paul, both should count as both are two-fanned and both designed to pound the ground with bombs.