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WNW GB 2009 - 10 LVG C.VI Mark
NickZour
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 06:06 AM UTC
1st of all i want to thank you for your nice comments on my "Betty"

2nd Nice job , very nice

3d are there any figures on the kit ??

Cheers Nick
JimMrr
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 07:06 AM UTC
May I ask what you are using for your rigging material?It looks good..... and do I see it is braided?
Kornbeef
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 07:43 AM UTC
Mark,

I test fitted my lower wing, it fits but its very tight, maybe your cockpit assembly lifted a little while setting Mark that happened with my SE5a the fact it wasnt in the right place anyway was another matter LOL.

I have to take my hat off though, she is looking stunning, and the rigging, well so far......I'm i awe, all my attempts so far are...unmentionable


Keith.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:19 AM UTC
Very, very nice build so far.
tachikawa
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 11:18 AM UTC
Mark-
Logistically speaking, did you rig the lines on the landing gear from the top downwards? Or from the bottom up? Reason I ask is I've never 'rigged' before and as soon as I get as far as you have I'll give it a try!


Glenn
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 03:54 PM UTC
Nick, you're very welcome young man. Thanks for sharing your work with us. Keep us updated with your other builds and be sure to ask questions if you need help. To answer your question, there are no figures with the kit but the kitmaker is planning to release some soon.

Keith, I kinda figured it was me. I'll keep an eye out for it on the SE5a. I think my new motto will be "measure twice cut once, test fit ten times glue once"

Jim and Glenn, here's a rundown of how I do the rigging. I don't use the "through the wing method" on this build. I use "Part of Poland" turnbuckles as attachment points for the rigging. I cut them in half and superglue them into the predrilled holes.



Here you see them sticking out of the holes.....................



i use hypodermic tube I get from "Small Parts" in 1 to 3 ft lengths.................



Use a sharp knife to score the tube by rolling it back and forth under the knife, you don't have to roll very far, just enough to go all the way around the tube...........



Next, I hold the tube in pliers and snap off the part with tweezers..............





I use Dai-Riki fishing line and color it by dragging it between a Sharpie and a piece of paper




Next, you run it through the tube (and the attachment point on the wing).................



Then loop it around and pull it through and clip off the extra..............................





Here are the parts, the turnbuckle would be shorter and attached to the wing of course...........



In this case Glenn, it doesn't matter if you start at the top or bottom.

I hope that helps.

more soon,

Mark
Kornbeef
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 07:30 PM UTC
Mark you make that look so simple......... but I wonder how many *pings* and expletives would pass my lips trying...guess We'll have to find out.

Nice clear tutorial though, many thanks.
NickZour
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 09:02 PM UTC
Thanks for welcoming me

I want to ask something else

How much the kit cost and where did you found it??

Sorry for the lots of questions

Cheers Nick
guitarlute101
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 12:37 AM UTC
Keith, yes, I forgot to add that it helps to have a lot of patience if you try this technique. I got it from "Extreme Needle Threading Magazine".

Nick, check out this website :

www.wingnutwings.com



Mark
NickZour
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 01:26 AM UTC
Thanks

Cheers Nick
Yeti123
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 03:25 PM UTC
Mark:
Just had to say that the build is absolutely superb. Thanks for the advice on the rigging

Taylor
guitarlute101
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2009 - 03:46 PM UTC

Thanks for the comments everyone. I've added some streaking to the wings to simulate wear and to give then an "uneven" appearance to the color for contrast. I just used a little paint thinner and Van Dyke Brown oil paint.



I added a few brush strokes around the cross then brushed them from leading edge to trailing edge to thin them down.



Here you see the difference in the streaked and unstreaked wing.



.......and on the top wing............



And I got the struts ready to go................




And a little staining on the cowling and vents, I need to refine them a little........




hopefully more tomorrow,

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 03:13 AM UTC
The brown is just what the wings needed to tune down the hues and add a weathered look .



guitarlute101
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 05:47 PM UTC

Thanks, Terri. I spent what little model time I had today to experiment with making turnbuckles. Here's what I came up with........................





You need a lot of room around it to do it so it probably won't work so well in the cramped area between two wings.

more later,

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 07:16 PM UTC
Might I suggest you look up Bob's Buckles for 1/32 turnbuckles?

NickZour
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 07:31 PM UTC
Mark you are a great modeller

Let me ask you another one question

Is Academy's this kit good?? http://www.modelsforsale.com/listphotos/AC2189.jpg

Needs any detail set??

What are the best kits for 1/32 biplanes of ww2 (cheap/non detail set needed) ??

Cheers Nick
guitarlute101
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 02:00 AM UTC
Warren,

Thanks for the suggestion. I've seen Bob's buckles and his postings on the Aerodrome. He's a great modeller and his buckles are a great product. I've recommended them to many of my molelling friends. They are a definite time saver. I've just always liked to experiment with different techniques and I am a "do it yourself" kind of guy.

Nick,

Any 1/32 kit by Roden or Wingnuts would be fine. There are other kits out there, too. I have the kit you linked to on your post also. There is a detail set out for it from "Part of Poland". The Academy kit is a re-boxing of the Hobbycraft kit.


http://www.misterkitusa.com/cbb863fc-29c0-44d9-8288-6a7d28e88dac-9.html


Read up on it here..............


http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/october/first-looks/aca_camel.htm


It depends on what you want to spend on the kit. Perhaps you can pick one in your price range that nice markings that you really like and you can go all out on the paint job and leave the detail sets for another time. I've seen stunning models that have been built out of the box (OOB) with next to no details added. I'm sure that anything you pick out to build that you enjoy to build will turn out just fine. I hope I've helped.

Mark
NickZour
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 02:50 AM UTC
Thanks Mark you've really helped me!

You rock

Cheers Nick
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:08 AM UTC
Did we get all tangled up in the rigging Mark ?
guitarlute101
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:51 AM UTC
Terri,

No, not yet. I shelved the LVG for the week to spend some time with my boys while they're with me. We had a great week and I had a great Father's Day.




I'll be posting more soon,

Mark
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2009 - 05:53 AM UTC
Family first!
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 01:45 AM UTC
guitarlute101
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 03:18 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

Thanks for being patient with me while I took as break to hang with my boys. The fishing was very good. OK, back to work. Here are the wings with the ailerons on and decaled.....................



The control horns need to have the holes drilled out before glueing them to the elevator.



And here is the elevator attached with the "LVG" logos on the horizontal stabilizers..............





...............and I drilled out the end of the exhaust......................



I'll be attaching the wings next.....................


Mark
guitarlute101
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 05:37 AM UTC

Wings are on.....ready for rigging.......................





Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 10:44 AM UTC
Excellent Mark coming along very nicely!