Early Aviation
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
Alb. D.Va STRIPE !
B24Liberator
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Posted: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 11:47 PM UTC
Nice colour Terri !!

OK - so how did you go about cleaning it up? That looks like it's sprayed for the first time!
The tail plane broke too? I would hire an excorcist to come over to your hobby room and shoo those model gremlins away!

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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 03:43 AM UTC
Johnanne : I used many Q-tips dip in Taniya thinner and rub the surface until the paint was off rinsed with water and soap and left to dry . I then rub the surface with testors oil thinner to do the final prep . ( gets the left over stuff that the acrylic thinner and water wouldn't take off such as in the panel lines ) Fresh plastic to work with !

The tail plane control surface became bitter from the thinners and when I pick it up , three parts happened . The more I handle it the worse it became . So I glued it back together and didn't worry to much about trying to fill and sand , would have crack and broke in other areas .

The white was sprayed early this morning and just waiting for it to be dry enough so I can pull off the masking and see how the stripes turn out . If there was any bleeding , blue will cover the white better the the white covering the blue will . Will have some pic's up soon !

Don't have to worry about any more gremlins , cat ate them ! Just hope he got them all !

Thanks for the kind words and having a look Johnannes !
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 04:29 AM UTC
I gotta admire your tenacity! Fingers are crossed for you. No ones going to look at a tailplane when
they are blowed away by that dazzling scheme.
thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 04:44 AM UTC
Okay and here are the pic's of what the stripes look like . Very small touch ups need to be done , no bleeding just missed with the masking tape .


















Well there you have it ! I think I have the stripes in the wrong order , but I like it . Turned out really well . Must say though , not easy stripes to mask at all or at least for me . Trying to match them up on ther side did take me some time , went very slow spent about four hours do this . But NO CRACKING of the paint and bleeding !


I will have to start deleting old pic's of this build to have the room for new ones . Running out of room here !
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:44 AM UTC
Greetings Terri!

For all the trouble you encountered you have recouped in fine fashion. These last images prove that. Very nicely done. As for your images sounds like you need a Photobucket account to save them to.
CaptainA
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:26 AM UTC
I must congratulate you on your fine builds. You have an eye for detail, and plenty of skill to make it look good. You pack so much detail into your builds that it makes my eyes hurt. Looking forward to your first 1/32nd build.
B24Liberator
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:15 PM UTC
Terri !

WOW! You sure know how to stay in the saddle and break that wild horse! I would have tossed it and started over well before now. Thank you for providing the tips on how to recover from that unfortunate mishap. I have had that happen in the past, and thought all was lost. Looking forward to seeing the wings attached. Cudos to you!

thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 05:19 PM UTC
now talk about making a girl plush !

JP , I'm bother by the tail plane though ; however the pilot was shot down so this could have been caused by the landing ! I almost pic up the weekend kit of this today , so I would have a replacement and ended getting some other things instead .

Stephen , I do have a photobucket account just haven't figured out how to up load pic's from there to here yet . I will in time though . Thank-you so much for the kind words always a pleasure to here from you .


Carl , what can I say ! Not bad for a Canadain bunny "a" . There was still some more detail I wanted to add in the cockpit but it was getting full you could say . I like the detail though . It really adds like to the model and gives people more to look at . Sorry for making your eye's hurt .



Johnannes , Back in the saddle once again at full speed , okay half speed . I almost did the same thing . was so frustrated it came very close to being tossed as well . Giving up is not in a modellers greed ! I can hear Stephen shouting this for across the broader ...........
their is a easier way for removing paint . Oven clear ! ( easy off ) . I just didn't have any on hand . glad you found the tip useful and Thanks !
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:29 PM UTC
Wow Terri. That's a nice save. I had to go back and see the damage, and in my world that would have been put away a few builds, just to gain confidence again.

Anyway, you said something about oven clear (?) to be an easy way to remove paint. What and how do you mean then? I can swap photobucket tips with you on that one !

Tony
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Posted: Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 09:10 PM UTC
oven cleaner will make your plastic brittle too if you use it a few times. Speaking from one who had the
rudder of his 109 nibbled by it. But it does work really well on everything. I think I probably used too much
of it. Even a little will cut right through your paintwork.

For acrylics try soaking a plastic bag full of windex overnight for a less hostile cleaner,
but that probably wont work for enamels.

Are you game to try to fashion a new tail from evergreen using the old part as a template then?
and save wasting a weekend kit? Nothing to lose but your sanity.

Just keep looking back at that stripey beast and smiling it must have taken a very
eccentic character to fly a great gaudy flying machine in combat conditions.
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Posted: Friday, January 23, 2009 - 01:34 AM UTC
Finally you got there shame on the tail woes though, It wouldnt be too hard to scratch though......possibly show it as a replacement part awaiting doping or such?

Anyway I'm glad to see you got over this problem Terri


K
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Posted: Friday, January 23, 2009 - 02:04 PM UTC
You can look , but no damage ! It was a good save to the paint scheme . It is very colourful and eye catching and different on here as well . There is a lot of options for these aircraft and I enjoy breaking the path to do them . Also gives me more experince when it comes to masking . This is only the second one so far , getting there at one model at a time !
Yes Oven clearer works very well . Need lots of ventilation when doing it . Brake fluid works well to but mess and hard to clean up . There is a lot of products out on the market for this now and safer as well . I believe Testors has a product out for their acrylic line . So Check around Tony and see what is safe for you .

Jp , I though of that as well , but really did feel like it . Would have had to sand down the rest of the tail planes . I'm not going back to do that now ! Paint turned out really well . So before this does get tossed on the shelf , I leave it alone ! Thanks for the suggestion though Keith , that's a great idea as well , but for a later project in the future .

Thanks for the support !
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:03 AM UTC
Hello Terri !

Well, now that you've duked-it-out with the fuselage, how are you going to do the wings? Lozenge or green/mauve cammo? The reference photo only has the fuselage, so I guess you could do either, right?

I'm stoked to see how the next steps go!
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 01:55 AM UTC
Hello right back at yeah Johannes ! I'm working on the wings right now making the hinges for the control surfaces . Pic's will be up soon when some paint has been sprayed .

The wings will be white top and bottom , spinner white and all struts white . no lozenge or green/mauve camo . There is a small write up done on the markings for this aircraft from Stephen in the thread call mystery Albatros and there is some on the " Drome " as well by Dan-San Abbott regrading the markings for this aircraft .
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 02:26 AM UTC
Wings have been primed a waiting the lars method of pre shading . Some time today I will have pic's up .
While I'm waiting for those items to dry . Toms Model works German guns will begin their construction
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:15 AM UTC
Hi Terri,
I've been following your build with keen interest, and certainly think your work is great. Overcoming the hurdles shows you have more tenacitythan a lot of modellers I know.
By the way - were you ever a member of the Medicine Hat flying club?
Gary Edmundson
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 02:51 AM UTC
Hello Gary ! Thanks for the kind words and glad you are enjoying this thread on the build .
No I was never part of the Medicine Hat flying club . Last time I was in an aircraft was about 4 years ago now . That didn't go very well . Just don't like flying !


I have done some more work , Tail planes fins have been added and the decals . Wheels painted just need to do the tires now .

I primed the wings and went about masking the ribs and other inner structure of the wing , didn't work out as I planned to . Now thinking I would have learned the first time , but no............(sucker for punishment ) I used TTM acrylic primer and had to redo one of the strips of tape . Lifting once more ! and the lower wing snapped in two from thinning the center part so the frame work of the fuselage would have enough clearance . I didn't use thinner to do the clean up , just more tape ! Almost like waxing my legs ! It worked great !

One side of the lower wing has no primer . All other areas weren't touch . I mixed Tamiya brown and black and tried my first time at doing per-shading . Not to bad , but can paint a straight line though ! A little brown will be mixed in with the white so hopefully this will have great results in the end .













Those Gremlins haven't beaten me yet !
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:26 AM UTC
Terri,

At the rate you are progressing, once you get past these paint issues, you are going to be SCARY GOOD!!!

Your blue and white stripes and the whole plane are looking outstanding! And I think the blue is a perfect hue and brightness. If you had used the original Cobalt blue it would have scaled way too dark!!!

OutStanding

Please check your PMs.

Dave
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:15 AM UTC
Terri - excellent job on the fuselage! Model On!
thegirl
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:58 AM UTC
Thanks Dave and Stephen . It has been a battle . Never before have I had so much trouble from small jars of paint !
I did spray the white , the lower wing was the only thing I was happy about . So I re did the top wing with the Lars method ! Here are the results of that so far . Over all I do need to practice more with the air brush . Went to heavy in some areas so the white should tone it down . But not bad for my first atempt at it . Let me know what you think Lars , you are the master at it . Here are those pic's .










I ready to spray the white now so I will have pic's of out come .
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 11:19 AM UTC
Interesting technique! This is going to be good!
thegirl
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:08 PM UTC
Thanks Johannes , but our good friend Lars is the one who i'm learning this tec from . First wack at it and I'm very impressed with the out come of it . i'm going to be going through a h0ll of a lot of tape in the future . The results are well worth it .


This is the results of the white . I mixed in a little brown ( Thanks Lars ! ) I agree with you . Having just the white , it wouldn't look right . The brown helps blend it all in .

Now comes the fun part , decals , rigging attachment points , weathering ( lighty ) then assembly .















And start the guns . more to come .......................................
B24Liberator
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 12:03 AM UTC
Wow - nice effect! Leave it to the Scandanavians to come up with that..!

We've always been know to be an adventurous bunch...

This is going to be an interesting finish! By the looks of the photos, it looks like you'll be threading the wire for the rigging, correct?
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 02:08 AM UTC
Thanks Johannes , the rigging will start soon , but first I have to finish off the guns and then twist some wire hoops for the attachment points . turn buckles will be a mixture of PE and Q-tips . So yes final assembly is getting close .
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 09:03 PM UTC
the preshading turned out nice and subtle in the pics Terri. It looks great.

Twisting wire rings.....I cheated and bought small size fish hooks from a local tackle shop...size 18-20 are nice for 1/32 but they do go smaller.

Looking forward to seeing the end result, after your mishaps, you really didnt give up and pulled it out the bag.

Keith