Dual Build
Eduard 1:48 Pfalz D.IIIa
West Virginia, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 06:49 AM UTC
To begin the rigging, I used a black "Sharpie" to color the first two rigging lines so they are easier to see in the pictures and inserted them in the pre-drilled holes.

Then I pulled them through the lower wing, always checking the rigging diagram to make sure I have them in the correct holes.

Then I used super-thin "Super Glue" to glue the top wing rigging lines and let them dry. Then I glued the bottom wing lines and secured he ends with tape to hold the tension until the glue dried.

Then I used a new curved blade to cut off the excess line on the top and the bottom of the line flush to the wing.

What I suggest is to run ALL of the rigging lines to make sure you have them all installed before you glue any holes shut. As you can see there can be two (or sometimes three) lines through one hole. That way there is less chance of realizing there should have been another line to go through the hole and you have to re-drill it and start over again.

And here is the wing rigging finished up.




In all it took me about an hour and a half to rig the wings with this method.
Mark
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:19 PM UTC
Mark,
Your rigging was well planned and executed! Very well done!
RAGIII
Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:54 PM UTC
I have been reading the current build on the Pfalz D.IIIa kit. I must disagree with eduard on two point so far:
The regular pilot of D.IIIa 5947/17 is unknown. I have two photos of it, one with ground crew and one with Ltn. Freiherr von der Horst. Buddecke flew D.IIIa 5983/17 during his brief service with Jasta 30.
The only Pfalz D.IIIa with pointed wingtips was the D.IIIa prototype D.4165/17. It is most likely the aircraft flown by first Vzfw.
Hitschler and later by Ltn. Hans von Buttlar.
I base what I have written on the published works of both Peter Grosz and Jack Herris.
Sincerely,
Marlon Schultz
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 04:04 PM UTC
I must concur (at least partially) with my illustrious colleage. Ladies and gentlemen let me introduce one of the people I think of as a talented modeler. Mr. Marlon Schultz. I am sure most of you remember this.
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I have been reading the current build on the Pfalz D.IIIa kit. I must disagree with eduard on two point(s) so far:
The regular pilot of D.IIIa 5947/17 is unknown. I have two photos of it, one with ground crew and one with Ltn. Freiherr von der Horst. Buddecke flew D.IIIa 5983/17 during his brief service with Jasta 30.
But as commander he flew whatever machine was on the start line as a method of keeping flight crews on their toes. MvR used the same practice. Every day there were specific aircraft from the Jasta(s) detailed for "ready line duty." He would take a hop over to a neighbouring Jasta for a meeting and if he climbed into a machine on the ready line that would not start, there might be a crew headed for the front lines and infantry duty in the trenches. One such trip was to jasta 5 on march 15, 1918 and he flew dr.I 525/17 from Jasta 6.
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". . . The only Pfalz D.IIIa with pointed wingtips was the D.IIIa prototype D.4165/17. It is most likely the aircraft flown by first Vzfw. Hitschler and later by Ltn. Hans von Buttlar. . ."
I base what I have written on the published works of both Peter Grosz and Jack Herris.
Sincerely,
Marlon Schultz
This is true. You see we know that Haupt. Berthold flew a D.III and later a D.IIIa. Both with the winged sword insignia. The red/ blue line should be further forward if memory serves.
But D.IIIa. 4165/17 Probably carried the hunting horn and before that an equa-distant series of white bands around the fuselage.
". . .The most important thing is to know why you build and then get the most that you can out of building." via D.D.
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 - 02:10 AM UTC
Mark , you are making fantastic progress on your build ! The rigging is super and the how to is nice and clear to follow , excellent job my friend !!! Now my only question is , how do you find the time ? Lately it seems I only have the time on weekends ............
I have finished masking of the green tail sections and will be spraying colours here this weekend and will start with my choosen rigging method . Pic's will be up soon ...............
West Virginia, United States
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 - 09:43 AM UTC
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 - 04:01 PM UTC
Thank-you Mark !
You have done one fantastic job on your build , very impressive
Cheers my friend !
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 - 06:03 PM UTC
Nicely Done Mark and a clean build she is.
". . .The most important thing is to know why you build and then get the most that you can out of building." via D.D.
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Friday, July 24, 2009 - 09:26 PM UTC
Mark.. Yes she turned out just great, very swift work I have to say.
A very nice clean well built piece of work, good detail, I love how the fuel lines turned out. theres things I would have done differently but thats personal preference, I can't fault your work.
It will be interesting to see how Terri's turns out with the preshading and all, the two building and finishing styles will hopefully give us all an education.
Keith
Still can't cure the AMS even with sausage finger implants & olde eyes.
West Virginia, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 02:29 AM UTC
Thanks, everyone.
Keith, I know what you mean. I wanted to show how you could make a very nice model out of the box so I kept this build very basic with next to no weathering. I always assume that it's mainly people who are here to learn something who are watching my builds and are not here just admire a picture. That's why I added the control lines and fuel and radiator lines to show you can add a little something here or there to make your model a little more personalized. Most of the 1/48 Pfalz models I see online don't have the fuel lines and that's OK and they are very fine looking models. And that's why I did the rigging tutorial. I have friends of mine who are into 1/35 scale armor and are REALLY good at it and even they ask me how I do the rigging on my models. One of the things I like about this site is that I can post as many pictures as I need to to show what I'm doing and I get a lot of great feedback.
I liked the build so much I just bought two Pfalz "Dual build" boxes for myself. I took notes along the way of things I would change, reposition or scratchbuild for my next Pfalz build to superdetail it.
Mark
West Virginia, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 12:06 PM UTC
Hi all,
I just noticed I posted pictures from the wrong folder. I've posted the correct pics in their place.
Mark
New York, United States
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Posted: Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 02:17 PM UTC
Mark,
Really cool out-of-the-box build. Sometimes it's good to take a break from AMS and put something together without worrying over every little detail. I myself usually keep it simple most of the time, I can finish more kits that way.
Looking forward to seeing what Ms Teri has up next.
Great work you two,
Dwayne
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 01:45 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 02:10 PM UTC
Very nice terri, love that red.
Mark
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 04:28 PM UTC
Mark, the rigging looks good. Nice photo work too.
Terri, I like the results of the mask. Looks good.
"I don't give a d@mn what command says about anything, I'll tell'em when to hold!" Big Joe
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 04:53 PM UTC
Excellent progress Terri! In a vegtable way? I think they have medication for that now? Model On!
". . .The most important thing is to know why you build and then get the most that you can out of building." via D.D.
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 11:03 PM UTC
very nice Terri, sharp colours, I can see theres a few bits need work but she looks to be shaping up really nice.
I think the preshading works well, I wasnt sure about how it might look at first with the silver finish. It turned out well, very subtle in the pics at least
That vermilloin red just glows so nicely to contrast with the silver and dk green.
I can't wait to see the two finished works
Keith
Still can't cure the AMS even with sausage finger implants & olde eyes.
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Monday, July 27, 2009 - 02:09 AM UTC
Thanks guy's !
I was on meds at the time Stephen , those pink pills do wonders !!
The camera doesn't show the whole effect of the per-shading very well , lighting was off . The green shows up darker then it really is making it look black in colour and it's red stripes on the wings not orange .
There is about 7 coats of the grey/silver sparyed on in very light coats , some areas got a little more to break it up a bit . To help the paint dry fast flat laquer base was added to the paint . Wasn't to sure on the red so the airframe was frist sparyed Tamiya flat red . Then I added clear red to it and re-sprayed with a coat of future .
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 05:15 PM UTC
Well I have been some what of a busy girl and got some more progress done in the past few days . Not much but some !
The guns have been put together painted and glued in place . The guns do sit to high on the kit . They should be sitting lower .
Tail skid is painted and in place . Exsuate is drilled out , fix into place as well . ( no finger tips where lost either in the drilling and clean up with a knife ! )
Touch ups have been made as well .
Next comes the struts and starting the rigging ..............................
I just notice that I have one of the cocking levers folded wrong !!!!
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 05:58 PM UTC
Sorry,Terri but the guns are sitting way too high. It looks like they will bump against the underside of the top wing.
". . .The most important thing is to know why you build and then get the most that you can out of building." via D.D.
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 08:00 PM UTC
I have to agree with Stephen Terri you may have to trim the base of the breech assembly or something, I honestly think if you don't it will ruin an otherwise lovely build......you know the old "Stick out lik a sore thumb" saying.
looking beautiful otherwise.
Keith
Still can't cure the AMS even with sausage finger implants & olde eyes.
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 02:20 AM UTC
Thanks guys , good thing the guns are only tacked in place with small amounts of glue . At least I didn't get tenax happy ! What i would really like to do is cut the gun decking and scratch in a new one going by the datafiles . I also feel that the guns are just a little to far a part as well and should be just a tad closer together and add gun sights . None are inclued in the kit . I measured and two mil have to come off the bottoms of the guns which in turn will give them that lower stance in the fuselage ......I hope !
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 05:11 AM UTC
Terri you know what happens if you start doing one tiny part? then the next part looks a little odd so I'll just.....and on and on and on till you have more parts than the kit started out with...And then you find the damn engines too big after all.....whistles.......
take it from one who knows ;-)
Still can't cure the AMS even with sausage finger implants & olde eyes.
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2009 - 06:56 AM UTC
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Terri you know what happens if you start doing one tiny part? then the next part looks a little odd so I'll just.....and on and on and on till you have more parts than the kit started out with...And then you find the damn engines too big after all.....whistles.......take it from one who knows ;-)
From somewhere in Narnia; "I hear whistling. . .Hey out there they have medicine for that!
". . .The most important thing is to know why you build and then get the most that you can out of building." via D.D.
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Friday, July 31, 2009 - 01:59 PM UTC
I hear yah Keith !
Next one I do I will go just nut's with the detailling . Still have five more in the stash !!!
Stephen , already have some