OFFICIAL: The Lost Art Campaign
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 05:04 AM UTC
Welcome to The Lost Art Campaign! This campaign will be about models in different media than the usual injection molded kits, specifically vacuform and resin.
The campaign will run from 1 November, 2017 through 1 November, 2018.
If you haven't signed up yet, or want to see the rules, go
here.
Please post your initial and in-progress photos as well as campaign discussion in this thread. Please post your finished build photos in the
campaign gallery.
Looking forward to some unusual and artistic builds!
Michael
On the bench:
Sorta depends on your definition of "on the bench"...

#439
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 07:25 AM UTC
Best of luck guys!
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
Texas, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 - 12:20 PM UTC
If it aint broke dont fix it.
Merlin
Senior Editor
#017
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 03:27 AM UTC
Hi all
Yep - the Fw 58 is already shouting "Oi! What about me?!" I'll do the promised In-Box Review before starting work.

All the best
Rowan
BEWARE OF THE FEW...
As I grow older, I regret to say that a detestable habit of thinking seems to be getting a hold of me. - H. Rider Haggard

#259
Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 10:11 PM UTC
This is all you get in the
Jewel Like Models Electra kit - one sheet of plastic and one sheet of paper.

I couldnt discover how old this kit is or how many were made, or who made it, but I'm going to go ahead and build it, so collectors will see their remaining stock increase in rarity.
sanding out the landing gear struts and wheels should be interesting. I like that wheel wells have been provided.

#439
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 10:19 PM UTC
Umm, OK... Ah did they give you two left halves for the nose gear? You're a braver man then I.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E

#259
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 10:46 PM UTC
looks symmetrical to me, for and aft.
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 10:48 PM UTC
Hi all,
I promised myself not to join every campaign or group build for which I have the fitting kit in my stash but this time I'll brake my own rules. Not because of my weak will but in an act of solidarity with Jessica and her thoughts and comments about the Lost Arts and other Aeroscale related matters.
This one came in about three days ago, all resin with just few bits of PE. As you see the kit box is still sealed by the producer.

#259
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 10:49 PM UTC
nice! I love those PZL gull wing planes!

#259
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 12:39 AM UTC
Step 1 is to cut the sheet up to give access to all the parts

Everything looks ok, but i hate the props. I think i will order some nice metal ones from
Contrails.
Since we mentioned the nose gear Ill start there.
A simple strut in two halves and wheels again in halves.

20 minutes later -That'll do

not sure yet how the wheel well will go into the fuse, or how the strut will go in. Instructions? pah. will engineer as needed.
onward!

#439
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 12:44 AM UTC
AHA, I see. In the first picture only 1 of the 'braces' was visible on each strut, both on the same side. Well, you succeeding far beyond what I would have done.
Any special tricks for cutting the parts out? Just a single edge razor blade?
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E

#259
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 03:47 AM UTC
yes. You score downward diagonally along the edge of the part, then grasp each side of the score with flat nosed pliers and SNAP the part away from the waste.
Jessica provided these images, (sadly all the other tutorials in past vacuform threads have been lost to botophucket.

)

ITs important to color the intersection of part and sheet, so that after the part is snapped out, you can see what needs to be sanded away.
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 01:13 AM UTC
If it aint broke dont fix it.

#259
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 08:11 AM UTC
There is actually an advantage to the vacuform medium, at least for airplanes - you can get
really thin trailing edges

I like how this tail goes together. the upper part has the dihedral built in, and you just glue on the lowers.
here is another before and after picture of what needs to be sanded off for anyone new to the concept
edit to add

the advantage is that the mating surfaces are absolutely flat, no gaps to fill, if you do it right!

#439
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 08:20 AM UTC
Jon, I assume you mean sand to the bottom of the blue line, not sand off the blue line.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E

#259
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 09:40 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Jon, I assume you mean sand to the bottom of the blue line, not sand off the blue line.
exactly. the surface of the sheet is the bottom of the part. everything below that line is flash that has to come off.

#439
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:58 AM UTC
Thanks Jon. I thought I'd heard that before.
Found an old RAREplanes SB2U-1 lurking in the stash. You guys keep this up I might give it a try. Might have to scrounge an old tool Airfix SBD for a few detail parts.
Hanger Queens in Waiting:
Monogram 1/72 F8F-1
Corsair the Sky Pirate - 1/72 Ace A-7D
Century Series - Airfix 1/72 F-105G
Anti Shipping - Academy 1/72 PBJ-1D
Academy 1/72 F-84E
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Posted: Saturday, November 04, 2017 - 10:55 PM UTC
Hello everybody,
Yes, I started as well, and against all good advise of people on this site to start with a less complicated kit first, I embarked on the Sanger B-52.
It appears that I now start understanding the true meaning of Vac form, or, my list of known unknowns (where I am aware that I have a total lack of skill to deal with an issue) has become extravagantly long after one weekend of building and I have of course no clue how long the list of unknown unknowns still is.

Still, this thing is promising. I've never seen such big 1/48 scale kit.
The mission: Beat the stash.
Almost conquered: MIG-29, Blackhawk, Skyray, Skyraider, fouga
Main battle:Demon, Skyhawk, F-14, CH-53
Stash reserve:Blackhawk, CH-46, 47 en 53; SU-7, Eurofighter, mohawk, hellcat, F-16D, 6x Fouga Magister, Voodoo
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 01:06 AM UTC
@Mark: nice kit and Jonathan has you on the correct path.
@drabslab: nice looking kit, just take your time. Plan out everything before cutting and I will watch this B-52 with pleasure.
Bob
If it aint broke dont fix it.
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 11:05 AM UTC
Ive usually used pencil or a marker to mark the piece before sanding, but I will try your method Jonathan.


If it aint broke dont fix it.
Merlin
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#017
United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 03:59 PM UTC
Hi all
It's great to see work underway already.

I won't be too far behind with my Fw 58, but I don't want to get distracted from Eduard's new Fw 190 just yet.
All the best
Rowan
BEWARE OF THE FEW...
As I grow older, I regret to say that a detestable habit of thinking seems to be getting a hold of me. - H. Rider Haggard
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Posted: Sunday, November 05, 2017 - 09:57 PM UTC
Rowan, take your time with the Fw. I would like to get your opinion on this kit.
Bob
If it aint broke dont fix it.

#259
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 12:19 AM UTC
I like how the wings go together.

not so sanguine about this wing root. looks like a Miliput job.

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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 01:23 AM UTC
Jonathan, you are waaay too fast for me. Really nice looking wings, what abrasive are you using?
If it aint broke dont fix it.
Merlin
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#017
United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 02:35 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Rowan, take your time with the Fw. I would like to get your opinion on this kit.
Bob
Hi Bob
Well, I actually part-built the solid-nose variant of MPM's Fw 58 years ago and the main parts go together really nicely. I didn't think it was fair to resurrect that old build for this Campaign, so I'll start again with the bomber-trainer. I can see a problem ahead with the glazed nose - but more on that when we get there.

All the best
Rowan
BEWARE OF THE FEW...
As I grow older, I regret to say that a detestable habit of thinking seems to be getting a hold of me. - H. Rider Haggard