Ayhan, you are making excellent progress.
It is a great idea to make one Phantom for each country that used them. However, it might be a little timeconsuming
Looking forward to see more
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Posted: Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:16 PM UTC
JollyRoger
Istanbul, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 04:08 AM UTC
I have time:] My two Brit birds are going on the way fine. The Esci one had it's puttywork done. I am willing to fix the Fujimi one too. By the way I discovered I also assambeled the other Fujimi(Which is a B and gonna be VF-84) so I am starting to it too.
Realy nice looking SEA by the way Ayhan(I always feel funny adressing a native in English but it is an international forum eh?) . The engine warning line seemed a little undersized though.
Realy nice looking SEA by the way Ayhan(I always feel funny adressing a native in English but it is an international forum eh?) . The engine warning line seemed a little undersized though.
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 09:36 AM UTC
I've thrown together this little beauty (?) from an old minicraft kit and some spare decals. It's indicative of Vandy 1.
Not the best, but i've enjoyed it. If time allows i'll do another bigger one before the end of the campaign
Andy
Not the best, but i've enjoyed it. If time allows i'll do another bigger one before the end of the campaign
Andy
Phantom2
Östergötland, Sweden
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Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 09:50 AM UTC
Hi all!
Wow, Already many nice builds on the way!
Here´s my kit;
But, as I can´t imagine a Phantom in grey, I´ll use this as starting point for this;
"Betty Lou" , an early F-4E with short nose cannon in SEA-cammo.
The decals and a pair of new seats from Avionix (former Black Box) will be the only additions;
Soon I´ll get going, but I have a couple of other builds to complete too!
Cheers!
Stefan E
Wow, Already many nice builds on the way!
Here´s my kit;
But, as I can´t imagine a Phantom in grey, I´ll use this as starting point for this;
"Betty Lou" , an early F-4E with short nose cannon in SEA-cammo.
The decals and a pair of new seats from Avionix (former Black Box) will be the only additions;
Soon I´ll get going, but I have a couple of other builds to complete too!
Cheers!
Stefan E
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:22 PM UTC
Looks nice, Andy. A sweet little black bunny
Excellent choice of camouflage and markings, Stefan. One of the most attractive camouflages for the Phantom.
Looking forward to see more
Excellent choice of camouflage and markings, Stefan. One of the most attractive camouflages for the Phantom.
Looking forward to see more
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 08:47 AM UTC
Some nice builds going on here and should be very colourful.
Small update on my first F-4F, paint finished, gear and tanks left to finish and attach then markings to be applied.
Ciao
Luciano
Small update on my first F-4F, paint finished, gear and tanks left to finish and attach then markings to be applied.
Ciao
Luciano
atoplu
Ontario, Canada
Joined: August 17, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:46 AM UTC
Little update on my phantom. Gloss varnish and first phase decals applied to model. Decals are (National markings and flag) from "Turquoise Decals".
Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:35 AM UTC
I have started on my Phantom entry. It is Revell's kit in 1/72. I must admit that I am very pleasantly surprised with the kit. The details are very crisp and especially the cockpit and ejection seats are very well detailed.
I have taken some pictures in semi high resolution to show of the details before i mess everything up with paint Sorry if it takes a little longer to download the tread
More to follow...
I have taken some pictures in semi high resolution to show of the details before i mess everything up with paint Sorry if it takes a little longer to download the tread
More to follow...
Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:50 AM UTC
Woops noticed that the canopy was not finished. Thats now done and it's had a coat of Klear.
OK progress on number two, black finish applied after a bit of a nightmare with some gloss vanish which required a lot of sanding to get rid of bobbals caused by the varnish. Luckly that I only applied the varnish to one wing first Its recieved a coat of Klear and is ready for decals, gear, canopy and weapon load still to be finished and attached.
Ciao
Luciano
OK progress on number two, black finish applied after a bit of a nightmare with some gloss vanish which required a lot of sanding to get rid of bobbals caused by the varnish. Luckly that I only applied the varnish to one wing first Its recieved a coat of Klear and is ready for decals, gear, canopy and weapon load still to be finished and attached.
Ciao
Luciano
jam2727
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 28, 2007
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Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 - 09:04 PM UTC
Hey all its great to see the models so far.
i have done a little bit of my cockpit so far, im just waiting on getting some colors.
Atoplu i must say that is an extreemy beutiful model. Keep up the good work so far guys all the models are looking great
i have done a little bit of my cockpit so far, im just waiting on getting some colors.
Atoplu i must say that is an extreemy beutiful model. Keep up the good work so far guys all the models are looking great
Posted: Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:55 PM UTC
I have now finished the basic construction of my Phantom II. I finished it while watching 117 minutes of boring football and the last very exiting 10 minutes of football. (Croatia - Turkey)
I have finished it without any external stores as I am building it as a show aircraft used for a flying display for JG 71 "Richthofen" 40th anniversary. It looks a little strange without stores, but I am sure it will look good in a black/red colour scheme with a large unit badge underneth.
I have finished it without any external stores as I am building it as a show aircraft used for a flying display for JG 71 "Richthofen" 40th anniversary. It looks a little strange without stores, but I am sure it will look good in a black/red colour scheme with a large unit badge underneth.
jam2727
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, June 23, 2008 - 12:26 AM UTC
Jesper how is it going so far, happy with it?. Because i am doing same kit in the same color sceme as you !
JollyRoger
Istanbul, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 05:25 AM UTC
Iııı Jesper I am pretty sorry for being this late but I think you misplaced the control sticks. The directions seem wrong. Could you re check them?
CaptainA
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 09:23 AM UTC
I am really, really behind on this one. I am in the middle of three other builds, and experiencing a real lack of time. But I hope to be starting this one in a few weeks.
I will be building a 1/32 Tamiya Phantom II in the colors of the late BG Robin Olds. How is that for ambition when I'm so far behind.
I will be building a 1/32 Tamiya Phantom II in the colors of the late BG Robin Olds. How is that for ambition when I'm so far behind.
Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 09:52 PM UTC
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Jesper how is it going so far, happy with it?. Because i am doing same kit in the same color sceme as you !
Ohh no, you will probably make my kit look bad Anyway, It will still be fun to compare the finished builds.
The kit is great! Really nice details and it has no fit problems what so ever, although I have not fixed the clear parts in place yet, so cannot comment on the fit of those.
I hit a minor stubling block. I decided to spray the black first as this is easier to mask - then spray the red. This turned out to be a bad idea as the red covers the black colour really bad. Normally I have the opposite problem as my preshading is invisible even with light colours such as light grey.
Anyway, I guess a couple of more coats of red will solve the problem.
I am building my Phantom II without any stores and wheels up. I plan to make some kind of stand that will show of the underside as well as the upper side of the aircraft.
More to follow.....
jam2727
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 10:34 PM UTC
Oh i feel so far behind now. i am still trying to get a price for the mask.
Jesper thanks for that, do you have reference pictures? i have quite a few if you want me to send them to you, the plane not long ago is still kept in new looking order, so i wont be doing much weathering kinda good for a beginner. Do you have pictures of tour cokpit jesper? i have done some research and found a german F-4F rear panel is not the same as this kit. so if you could help me on some color references that would be great
Jesper thanks for that, do you have reference pictures? i have quite a few if you want me to send them to you, the plane not long ago is still kept in new looking order, so i wont be doing much weathering kinda good for a beginner. Do you have pictures of tour cokpit jesper? i have done some research and found a german F-4F rear panel is not the same as this kit. so if you could help me on some color references that would be great
Posted: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 08:45 PM UTC
James, I would really like to see some reference pictures. I have not been able to locate any of this particular aircraft. Although it might be a little too late as I will take of the masking today after the basic colour scheme is on. But might be helpful for the details.
German cockpits seems to be the same colour as US cockpits based on the instructions. I am away from all my normal paint selection, so I must admit that simply went for some greys I mixed to look right.
Hope the below pictures help.
PHANTOM II FRONT COCKPIT
PHANTOM II REAR COCKPIT
German cockpits seems to be the same colour as US cockpits based on the instructions. I am away from all my normal paint selection, so I must admit that simply went for some greys I mixed to look right.
Hope the below pictures help.
PHANTOM II FRONT COCKPIT
PHANTOM II REAR COCKPIT
ejclide
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Friday, June 27, 2008 - 08:08 AM UTC
DISASTER!!!
I finally got a chance to start on my plain jane Monogram F-4J "Mig Killer". Well, I had started to paint the cockpit a long time ago, and it was horrible, so I dunked the cockpit tub in some solvent, very soon after to be distracted by my dog and my mother. Well, long story short, I came back to find my cockpit tub in a very smooth pile of soft plastic at the bottom of the bowl.
Needless to say, I need a cockpit! I'm gonna see what I can find in the aftermarket, but maybe someone has one for a monogram kit they don't need? that would be super swell!!!!!
I'm also being overwhelmed by all of the stores on this thing. I've actually never completed a jet before (except a 1/48 SR-71..... Long story), and in fact I don't think I've ever even built a plane with a bomb hanging from it. So this sanding and finishing of so many of the same thing is wearing on me!!
Hope to have pics up soon
I finally got a chance to start on my plain jane Monogram F-4J "Mig Killer". Well, I had started to paint the cockpit a long time ago, and it was horrible, so I dunked the cockpit tub in some solvent, very soon after to be distracted by my dog and my mother. Well, long story short, I came back to find my cockpit tub in a very smooth pile of soft plastic at the bottom of the bowl.
Needless to say, I need a cockpit! I'm gonna see what I can find in the aftermarket, but maybe someone has one for a monogram kit they don't need? that would be super swell!!!!!
I'm also being overwhelmed by all of the stores on this thing. I've actually never completed a jet before (except a 1/48 SR-71..... Long story), and in fact I don't think I've ever even built a plane with a bomb hanging from it. So this sanding and finishing of so many of the same thing is wearing on me!!
Hope to have pics up soon
jam2727
Victoria, Australia
Joined: June 28, 2007
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 12:29 AM UTC
Sorry to hear bout that bad news Eric, hope you get another cocpit soon. if you dont come up with something in the time for the campaign i will be happy to give you more time.
Jesper i have some really good pics for you as reference, took me a whole night to find these hope they help
This is an interesting one, dose they kit instruction tell you to paint those white lines?
if they dont load just go to my album on the kitmaker network
Jesper i have some really good pics for you as reference, took me a whole night to find these hope they help
This is an interesting one, dose they kit instruction tell you to paint those white lines?
if they dont load just go to my album on the kitmaker network
Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 03:24 AM UTC
Sorry to hear about your cockpit trouble, Eric. I hope you find a solution.
As a last resort you can cover the cockpits with a blanket or tarp. I have seen that in some pictures from Vietnam, but cannot find the picture now. No doubt the cockpits could get extremely warm in the sun and that is probably why they were covered.
James, thanks for the pictures. They are great.
Notice how the red colour looks different in the different photos. Very interesting - I think I have used the right red colour with a more darker hue.
I do not have the white line on my Photos. I have already applied the varnish and is ready for the decals. I cannot decide if I want to paint the white line now - I am affraid it will look strange and destroy the uniformity of the finish if I apply it on top of the varnish.
As a last resort you can cover the cockpits with a blanket or tarp. I have seen that in some pictures from Vietnam, but cannot find the picture now. No doubt the cockpits could get extremely warm in the sun and that is probably why they were covered.
James, thanks for the pictures. They are great.
Notice how the red colour looks different in the different photos. Very interesting - I think I have used the right red colour with a more darker hue.
I do not have the white line on my Photos. I have already applied the varnish and is ready for the decals. I cannot decide if I want to paint the white line now - I am affraid it will look strange and destroy the uniformity of the finish if I apply it on top of the varnish.
CaptainA
Indiana, United States
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 07:17 AM UTC
Eric)-Sorry to hear about your globular cockpit. I think all of us have a similar story hiding in our past.
jam2727
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 10:22 PM UTC
Hey jesper, i think some of the camera qualities may be at play there with the colors, i picked the clearest ones possible. happy to help. sorry for not getting them to you sooner for those white lines, thats the only picture that shows them.
Hoss
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:42 AM UTC
Hello guys. I don't have any pictures yet...still trying to figure out how to get some on this site. Can somebody explain? Anyhow, I had similar tragedy beset me as I was getting started on my build - Hasegawa 1/72 F-4S - the family dog was in the hobby room with me when I decided to open up the bag containing the clear parts & decal sheet. I was being clever in thinking I would take the decals with me to work so I could oogle them during breaks. Yeah I know, what a job. Well what I didn't see was the front canopy as it flew across the room landing in the vicinity of the dog. Yep you guessed it...in about 15 seconds my wife is calling from the living room and wants to know what "Sugar" is nawing on. Well I immediately get this sick, sinking feeling like I'm in the bottom of a very bad loop and then discover that "Sugar" has put a nice hole dead center the front canopy. Much cursing and loathing follows!!
No worries...I have decided to clean up the mess with putty and I am simply going to paint the clear parts a nice shade of blue like what you see on the solid wood dsplay models one can buy for the office display. Not the best thing but at least the dog lives and the kit is not going to the boneyard. Meanwhile I picked up another Hasegawa 1/72 kit from lhs - Luftwaffe commerative scheme - and may build it if I have time to get it complete for this build.
About the cockpit photos...when I was a crew chief on the F-4E back in the early 80's, I don't remember the ejection handle between the legs being so big. Trouble is my memory seems to be aging like the rest of me and maybe I just don't 'member so good!
Hey, speaking of memory....when does this build reach the finish line???
Have a phabolous day everyone.
No worries...I have decided to clean up the mess with putty and I am simply going to paint the clear parts a nice shade of blue like what you see on the solid wood dsplay models one can buy for the office display. Not the best thing but at least the dog lives and the kit is not going to the boneyard. Meanwhile I picked up another Hasegawa 1/72 kit from lhs - Luftwaffe commerative scheme - and may build it if I have time to get it complete for this build.
About the cockpit photos...when I was a crew chief on the F-4E back in the early 80's, I don't remember the ejection handle between the legs being so big. Trouble is my memory seems to be aging like the rest of me and maybe I just don't 'member so good!
Hey, speaking of memory....when does this build reach the finish line???
Have a phabolous day everyone.
Hoss
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2008 - 12:53 AM UTC
It's me again. Forgot to mention - there goes that whole memory issue flairing up - there is a cool site in cyberspace dealing with ejection seats that has some really neat photos and detailed data on the Martin Baker seats used in the Phantom II. Just google ejection seats and should pop up...really a wealth of info. Great site to add to favorites.
Good morning gents and be cool!
Good morning gents and be cool!
Posted: Monday, June 30, 2008 - 08:44 PM UTC
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Hey jesper, i think some of the camera qualities may be at play there with the colors, i picked the clearest ones possible. happy to help. sorry for not getting them to you sooner for those white lines, thats the only picture that shows them.
Hi James, when I started on the decals I actually noted that the white lines are included as decals. Somehow I missed that first time I checked. They are quite difficult to get to fit and get the lines straight, but I have succeed on the upper wings. Also the decals are quite high quality as the lines stay white and do not turn pink or grey depending on the red/black undersurface.
I will will try to get it to fit on the lower wings.
Photos will follow shortly.