Hi Des:
Trying to catch up after a week in Sturgis. I saw a couple of Aussie Vietnam Vets in Sundance Wyoming. Your build is really coming along. Cudo's on the rigging. Again, your attention to detail is noteworthy and stunning. When I get to doing this kit, I will be referring to your build for pointers. The copper wire for the pitot tubes is really nice. Looking forward to more photo's and pointers.
Best
Mark
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Mgunns
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Posted: Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 01:50 AM UTC
edoardo
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Posted: Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 11:57 PM UTC
Hi Des!
you continue to amaze me!!
Really impressive job!
I have a question for you and the rest of the group: what do you think of letting the turnbuckles of their natural colour (brass)? I like very much the effect, but I don't think it is much realistic...
Continue the wonderful job!
ciao
Edo
you continue to amaze me!!
Really impressive job!
I have a question for you and the rest of the group: what do you think of letting the turnbuckles of their natural colour (brass)? I like very much the effect, but I don't think it is much realistic...
Continue the wonderful job!
ciao
Edo
wombat58
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Posted: Friday, August 13, 2010 - 01:25 PM UTC
Thanks very much for all the wonderful comments, they are much appreciated.
Terri...... It was a bit of a headache working out how to do the rigging connection on the interplane strut, what I did was, to me, the most suitable approach but still trying to make it look as close to the original as possible. The whole problem was the size, to get the six rigging lines into such a small area, anyhow, I will continue on with the remainder of the rigging and see what the end result turns out like.
Gary.....I have never used Citadel paints so I can't give comment on what they are like. The colours I used on the rudder are Humbrol enamels, the blue is no longer in production, the tin I have been using is No.52 Baltic Blue and is over 30 years old, a good testimony to the quality of Humbrol paints, it's as good as the first day I opened it. The red is Humbrol No.60, Scarlet, once coated with Humbrol Matt Cote it brings the colour very close to what I wanted, and naturally, white is white, I used Humbrol No.22, gloss white. Make sure the enamel paints are thoroughly dry before coating with a clear, usually 24 hours.
Edo..... I agree with you totally that the brass I use for the turnbuckles is not a realistic look, but one of the properties of brass is that it will tarnish. Models I made several months ago have the brass bits which are starting to tarnish giving a more realistic and natural look, The patina of old brass looks very good and the more you handle it before fitting it the quicker it will tarnish. The polished brass bits that I want to stay polished I coat with clear nail polish varnish, it dries crystal clear and very hard.
There are many products that are easily adaptable to fit the requirements for making turnbuckles, but I like brass. It is uniform in size both OD and ID, it cuts and drills very easily, can be shaped to just about any shape and CA bonds to it extremely well. Where specifications call for it, it can be polished to a very high shine.
It's a matter of choice, we, as modellers are all different, we all have our favorite products, what works for one will be a complete failure for the next person, that's what makes modelling so much fun, trial and error.
Des.
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Terri...... It was a bit of a headache working out how to do the rigging connection on the interplane strut, what I did was, to me, the most suitable approach but still trying to make it look as close to the original as possible. The whole problem was the size, to get the six rigging lines into such a small area, anyhow, I will continue on with the remainder of the rigging and see what the end result turns out like.
Gary.....I have never used Citadel paints so I can't give comment on what they are like. The colours I used on the rudder are Humbrol enamels, the blue is no longer in production, the tin I have been using is No.52 Baltic Blue and is over 30 years old, a good testimony to the quality of Humbrol paints, it's as good as the first day I opened it. The red is Humbrol No.60, Scarlet, once coated with Humbrol Matt Cote it brings the colour very close to what I wanted, and naturally, white is white, I used Humbrol No.22, gloss white. Make sure the enamel paints are thoroughly dry before coating with a clear, usually 24 hours.
Edo..... I agree with you totally that the brass I use for the turnbuckles is not a realistic look, but one of the properties of brass is that it will tarnish. Models I made several months ago have the brass bits which are starting to tarnish giving a more realistic and natural look, The patina of old brass looks very good and the more you handle it before fitting it the quicker it will tarnish. The polished brass bits that I want to stay polished I coat with clear nail polish varnish, it dries crystal clear and very hard.
There are many products that are easily adaptable to fit the requirements for making turnbuckles, but I like brass. It is uniform in size both OD and ID, it cuts and drills very easily, can be shaped to just about any shape and CA bonds to it extremely well. Where specifications call for it, it can be polished to a very high shine.
It's a matter of choice, we, as modellers are all different, we all have our favorite products, what works for one will be a complete failure for the next person, that's what makes modelling so much fun, trial and error.
Des.
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com
wombat58
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Posted: Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 06:45 PM UTC
I finally finished the wing rigging, it was very time consuming and fiddly, the rigging connection to the inboard interplane struts were a headache but I wanted to try and make it look as close to the original as possible, I'm pleased with the result. The undercarriage is the next step.
Des.
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Des.
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OEFFAG_153
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Posted: Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:02 PM UTC
Hi Des,
This is about the best rigging job I've seen to date – definately well worth the effort. The SPAD is looking beautiful!
Best Regards
Mikael
This is about the best rigging job I've seen to date – definately well worth the effort. The SPAD is looking beautiful!
Best Regards
Mikael
thegirl
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Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 - 05:34 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Des,
This is about the best rigging job I've seen to date – definately well worth the effort. The SPAD is looking beautiful!
Best Regards
Mikael
Have to agree with Mikael , outstanding job on the rigging Des !
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Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 - 11:34 AM UTC
Des,
Wow she really is turning out to be quite a breathtaking build.
Keith
Wow she really is turning out to be quite a breathtaking build.
Keith
Posted: Monday, August 16, 2010 - 12:07 PM UTC
That rigging is spectacular!
wombat58
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 02:17 PM UTC
I am now up to the undercarriage stage. The first photo shows what I want to add to my model, I will be replacing all the plastic axle parts with steel rods and I will make the axle hinged. I want to also add a bungee cord so a 0.5mm brass tube will be fixed under the axle to take the simulated cord. The four photos show what I have done so far, all the metal parts will be painted black along with the brackets on the struts. 8 small eyelets have been fitted to take the bracing wires. The undercarriage has been painted with CDL to match the under side of the aircraft and wings.
Des.
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Des.
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Kornbeef
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Posted: Monday, August 23, 2010 - 09:44 PM UTC
Nice!
Detail like this is what makes your builds stand out above others.
Common sense too, a broken axle in the future could have unpleasant consequences.
Keith
Detail like this is what makes your builds stand out above others.
Common sense too, a broken axle in the future could have unpleasant consequences.
Keith
JackFlash
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 02:56 AM UTC
Outstanding work Des!
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 03:10 AM UTC
Wow Des ! , very nice attention to the finer details . This si going to be your best build yet !
Looking forward to the next up-date .
Looking forward to the next up-date .
wombat58
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 06:12 PM UTC
Here are the photos of my completed Spad VII c.1
Des.
full build log can be found here
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com
Des.
full build log can be found here
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com
wombat58
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 06:15 PM UTC
Kornbeef
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 07:15 PM UTC
Stunning.
Keith
Keith
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 07:29 PM UTC
Most impressive. Though the camouflage colours could do with an aluminum paint miture in the colours to represent the original scheme.
See here.
See here.
OEFFAG_153
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 08:03 PM UTC
Des – Outstanding build – I like it a lot, and your detailing is superb.
Impressed regards
Mikael
Impressed regards
Mikael
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 02:28 AM UTC
I must say Des , this is your best build to date ! Most impressive indeed
Your attention to the details is super and the rigging , wow !
Thanks for sharing the build with us Des
Your attention to the details is super and the rigging , wow !
Thanks for sharing the build with us Des
edoardo
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hi Des!
I cannot add nothing to what the others have already said!
Your builds are a joy to watch... what's up next?
ciao
Edo
I cannot add nothing to what the others have already said!
Your builds are a joy to watch... what's up next?
ciao
Edo
Mgunns
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 09:25 AM UTC
Hi Des:
It's a beaut Des. Really turned out great. The Struts look beefy enough to accomodate the rigging, the Hobby Craft SPAD XIII struts are quite spindly.
I will definately be referring to your photos and build when i do mine.
Thanks for sharing
Best
Mark
It's a beaut Des. Really turned out great. The Struts look beefy enough to accomodate the rigging, the Hobby Craft SPAD XIII struts are quite spindly.
I will definately be referring to your photos and build when i do mine.
Thanks for sharing
Best
Mark
wombat58
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 09:55 AM UTC
I would like to thank everyone for leaving such wonderful comments, I appreciate them very much.
The Spad was never a favorite on my list of WW1 aircraft, but after seeing the finished product it now sits near the top of the list, it is a lovely little aeroplane and certainly compliments my WW1 aircraft display.
I don't know what will be next, I'm still waiting for the next WNW release and the Roden Sopwith Tripe.
Des.
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com
The Spad was never a favorite on my list of WW1 aircraft, but after seeing the finished product it now sits near the top of the list, it is a lovely little aeroplane and certainly compliments my WW1 aircraft display.
I don't know what will be next, I'm still waiting for the next WNW release and the Roden Sopwith Tripe.
Des.
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com
dmopath
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Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 11:22 AM UTC
Des:
A splendid job. It looks fantastic. I will keep this build in mind (here and on your website) when I start mine.
A splendid job. It looks fantastic. I will keep this build in mind (here and on your website) when I start mine.
RAGIII
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Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 01:21 PM UTC
In a word, SPECTACULAR!
RAGIII
RAGIII