Hi!
This will be a build of many first's:-
First Blog build.
First Seaplane.
First Resin kit.
First Bi-plane with rigging.
More to follow!
Early Aviation
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
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tinbanger
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2012 - 09:52 AM UTC
Hi!
This will be a build of many first's:-
First Blog build.
First Seaplane.
First Resin kit.
First Bi-plane with rigging.
More to follow!
eseperic
Joined: November 06, 2009
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2012 - 07:03 PM UTC
Hi Richard,
... and welcome onboard! Good luck with the "firsts"
I will follow your build closely. That's a bit of a boat there!
All the best,
Entoni
... and welcome onboard! Good luck with the "firsts"
I will follow your build closely. That's a bit of a boat there!All the best,
Entoni
tinbanger
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2012 - 10:34 PM UTC
Thanks entoni!
First off i will give all the parts a good wash
and then get to work on the hull.
I have done some test rigging using black .007"(3 LB test)
fishing line,this may be heavy for 1/72 but it was
the smallest i could find to date.
First off i will give all the parts a good wash
and then get to work on the hull.
I have done some test rigging using black .007"(3 LB test)
fishing line,this may be heavy for 1/72 but it was
the smallest i could find to date.
OEFFAG_153
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2012 - 11:15 PM UTC
Hello Richard, and welcome!
Nice looking kit – not one I'm familiar with, but a very handsome one –Looking forward to follow your build.
Best Regards
Mikael
Nice looking kit – not one I'm familiar with, but a very handsome one –Looking forward to follow your build.
Best Regards
Mikael
lcarroll
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Posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 12:45 AM UTC
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Thanks entoni!
First off i will give all the parts a good wash
and then get to work on the hull.
I have done some test rigging using black .007"(3 LB test)
fishing line,this may be heavy for 1/72 but it was
the smallest i could find to date.
Richard,
A very impressive list of "firsts" in your opening post! Welcome to our little world and compliments on your choice of subject, should be a very interesting build.
Suggestion; I've worked in all the popular scales over the years and believe the 3# test mono may be a little large for 1/72. (I use 4 and 6 lb. test for 1/32nd and it's on the edge of too large for some applications, especially the 6 lb.) I'd recommend you look for "Invisible Mending Thread". It's clear mono as well, much thinner, and I saw a spool of it at Walmart the other day with enough length to do a lifetime of kits for around $4. I have 2 rolls of it from the 1960s and it's still going strong.
Others of our Forum may see it differently however that's my recommendation for your "first" bout of rigging.
Cheers,
Lance
tinbanger
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Posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 - 04:18 AM UTC
Hi lance.
Thanks I will check out the invisible thread at Walmart.
I am happy with the kit nice clean molding.
Wood hull colour needs some R&D, i have seen photos of
the hull at Hendon and it seems to be stained to light
(it was a used as a house boat!).
Most MK1 look like they have a flat stain on them.
Any way i will try to make this build a little more than out of the box.
I will get more from this group build than I can give back!
All for now
Thanks I will check out the invisible thread at Walmart.
I am happy with the kit nice clean molding.
Wood hull colour needs some R&D, i have seen photos of
the hull at Hendon and it seems to be stained to light
(it was a used as a house boat!).
Most MK1 look like they have a flat stain on them.
Any way i will try to make this build a little more than out of the box.
I will get more from this group build than I can give back!
All for now
Mgunns
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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 12:18 AM UTC
Hello Richard:I am not familiar with the a/c you are doing, but there are a lot of great war a/c I am not familiar so this will be fun watching you progress through this.
Take care
Mark
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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 08:29 AM UTC
Good luck with all your firsts Richard! 
I have built a resin AFV and a resin ship but haven't done an aircraft yet. I have a few in the stash and suppose I better have a go at one.
Cheers
Warren
I have built a resin AFV and a resin ship but haven't done an aircraft yet. I have a few in the stash and suppose I better have a go at one.
Cheers
Warren
tinbanger
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Posted: Friday, March 30, 2012 - 09:32 AM UTC
Hi Mark and Warren!
Still playing with test rigging!
It will be the last week of April before I will
start the Southampton I am off to the UK next week,I have
2 campaigns that I want to finish:- support aircraft and
Small is Beautiful.
All for now.
Still playing with test rigging!
It will be the last week of April before I will
start the Southampton I am off to the UK next week,I have
2 campaigns that I want to finish:- support aircraft and
Small is Beautiful.
All for now.
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, March 31, 2012 - 01:54 AM UTC
Looking forward to your build !
amegan
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 11:28 AM UTC
Welcome, and what a subject, I love those old 'boats. I agree with Lance, invisible mending thread is perfect for smaller scales and works well but plan your rigging very early in your build so you can drill holes in the right places. It helps too if you can prethread some of the blind holes before assembling the hull
tinbanger
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 09:00 PM UTC
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Welcome, and what a subject, I love those old 'boats. I agree with Lance, invisible mending thread is perfect for smaller scales and works well but plan your rigging very early in your build so you can drill holes in the right places. It helps too if you can prethread some of the blind holes before assembling the hull
Hi Andrew
I picked up some invisible thread(60meters should be enough!!)over here in the UK.
Good idea about the pre-drilling.
Looking forward to getting back home next week and back to the modeling bench.
JimMrr
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 12:17 PM UTC
I have been drooling lately over the Southampton Mk. II, so I will be watching your build with interest!
warreni
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 07:14 PM UTC
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Thanks entoni!
First off i will give all the parts a good wash
and then get to work on the hull.
I have done some test rigging using black .007"(3 LB test)
fishing line,this may be heavy for 1/72 but it was
the smallest i could find to date.
May I suggest invisible mending thread? That is thinner. Or copper wire is available in very thin gauges.. thinner than the above.
tinbanger
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Posted: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 - 10:43 PM UTC
Hi Warren
Welcomed my first grand child into the world tuesday!
I will start the build in the next week.
I have picked up .0015'' and .0031'' thead and will do some tests with it.
Being 1/72 scale not sure how much of the cockpit will be
seen,i like to spend more time on what can be seen than hidden,seems a lot of nice work being done only to be sealed up!
Welcomed my first grand child into the world tuesday!
I will start the build in the next week.
I have picked up .0015'' and .0031'' thead and will do some tests with it.
Being 1/72 scale not sure how much of the cockpit will be
seen,i like to spend more time on what can be seen than hidden,seems a lot of nice work being done only to be sealed up!
tinbanger
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Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 01:22 PM UTC
Hi!
I have at last got under way on the Southampton.
Here are some photo's.
The parts are real small! (1/72 scale).
I have at last got under way on the Southampton.
Here are some photo's.
The parts are real small! (1/72 scale).
Kornbeef
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Posted: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 05:39 PM UTC
Fiddly stuff but loking good. and its good to see this underway.
Keith
Keith
lcarroll
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Posted: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:17 AM UTC
Good to see you back and particlarly getting started Richard. Unique subject, should be interesting to watch.
Cheers,
Lance
Cheers,
Lance
tinbanger
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 09:33 AM UTC
Hull ready to glue together!.
Kornbeef
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 11:03 AM UTC
Wow a giant model match. what scale 72:1?
Keith
Keith
tinbanger
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 11:40 AM UTC
Plenty of room in Canada to grow big matches!
amegan
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 08:45 PM UTC
That interior looks great, another one to add to my wannit list
tinbanger
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Posted: Sunday, June 03, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC
Thank's Andrew
The kit is being discontinued so get one soon!
The kit is being discontinued so get one soon!
tinbanger
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 05:15 AM UTC
Hi all.
One thing I have learned with resin parts is to use epoxy
rather than super glue.
The wing parts that I super glued were not very strong(the surface was to smooth), I had to clean off all the super glue
and then I drilled #80 holes at random on both half's to give the epoxy something to grab.
I have drilled 0.036"X 5/32"deep holes at locating pins and sockets and added 0.032"X 1/4"Brass rod and then epoxy.
This has made for a strong joint.
One thing I have learned with resin parts is to use epoxy
rather than super glue.
The wing parts that I super glued were not very strong(the surface was to smooth), I had to clean off all the super glue
and then I drilled #80 holes at random on both half's to give the epoxy something to grab.
I have drilled 0.036"X 5/32"deep holes at locating pins and sockets and added 0.032"X 1/4"Brass rod and then epoxy.
This has made for a strong joint.
gajouette
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Posted: Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 08:56 AM UTC
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Plenty of room in Canada to grow big matches!
Richard,
Are you certain you're not a Texan my friend? But seriously excellent build thread to date my friend. Very impressive interior details in such a tiny package. A tip of the hat to you and all the other builders of 1/72 scale.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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