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Airfix 1/48 scale Hawker Hurricane Mk
Jessie_C
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 02:58 AM UTC
Did you remember to kick the rudder pedals over and push the joystick forward?
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 03:46 AM UTC
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Did you remember to kick the rudder pedals over and push the joystick forward?
Jessica,
to be perfectly honest about it, nope. I can get to the joystick, but not the rudder pedals.
Joel
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 03:52 AM UTC
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Hey Joel,
She sure is looking great, these new Airfix kits are certainly good.
As a suggestion for your next build try the Airfix Mustang,mines on the bench to be decaled,
it's a joy to build with many options.
2 styles of exhausts
2 style of tails-fits along panel lines
2 style of wheels
3 style of canopies
Bombs,rockets and drop tanks
flaps per the Hurricane
and a nicely detailed cockpit I was going to use some resin but the IP and seat were fine.
Sorry for the slightly off topic diversion but its a great kit.
looking forward to the next update
Chris
Chris,
Don't give it a 2nd thought, your suggestion is just fine. The Airfix P-51D is on my build list, but I shamefully haven't bought one as yet. I do have their Spitfire Mkl in my rather small stash. But I do have the Accurate Miniature's P-51B calling my name.
Since retirement, I try to keep my stash under control as there really isn't much of a tomorrow, it's all current these days. So I build one, buy one kind of deal. Of course I have two spare Eduard F6F-3, & a -5, go figure. I owe myself a replacement for the F6F-3 but just haven't figured out what it will be as yet.
Joel
Jessie_C
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 08:50 PM UTC
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Did you remember to kick the rudder pedals over and push the joystick forward?
Jessica,
to be perfectly honest about it, nope. I can get to the joystick, but not the rudder pedals.
Joel
Well, you'll need to get Chiefy to have a word with the Erks then; they've rigged your crate all sideways. Bad form, what?
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 10:32 PM UTC
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Did you remember to kick the rudder pedals over and push the joystick forward?
Jessica,
to be perfectly honest about it, nope. I can get to the joystick, but not the rudder pedals.
Joel
Well, you'll need to get Chiefy to have a word with the Erks then; they've rigged your crate all sideways. Bad form, what?
Jessica,
Most certainly so.
Joel
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 09:00 PM UTC
Looking good so far Joel , you are moving right along with this one .
Terri
Terri
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 09:26 PM UTC
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Looking good so far Joel , you are moving right along with this one .
Terri
Terri,
Thanks for stopping by, and the thumbs up. Progress yes, but I thought that being retired I'd be modeling more. Not working out that way as my build rate is just about exactly the same.
Joel
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 03:14 AM UTC
Hey Joel
That's a fine Hurricane you're building there, especially with the extra details and t.l.c. The Yahu instrument panel looks great too.
Good luck with the rest of the build, not that you'll need it as you're making a thing of beauty already.
Happy modelling,
Steve
That's a fine Hurricane you're building there, especially with the extra details and t.l.c. The Yahu instrument panel looks great too.
Good luck with the rest of the build, not that you'll need it as you're making a thing of beauty already.
Happy modelling,
Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 - 05:59 AM UTC
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Hey Joel
That's a fine Hurricane you're building there, especially with the extra details and t.l.c. The Yahu instrument panel looks great too.
Good luck with the rest of the build, not that you'll need it as you're making a thing of beauty already.
Happy modelling,
Steve
Steve,
Thanks for stopping by and checking out my Hurricane build. It's always much appreciated.
Joel
Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 01:54 AM UTC
Hi Joel
Nice progress!
I'm always jealous when I see the Bondo in your builds, because I've read a lot of good about it but I've never seen it in the UK (well, only at frightening import prices).
All the best
Rowan
Nice progress!
I'm always jealous when I see the Bondo in your builds, because I've read a lot of good about it but I've never seen it in the UK (well, only at frightening import prices).
All the best
Rowan
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 02:09 AM UTC
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Hi Joel
Nice progress!
I'm always jealous when I see the Bondo in your builds, because I've read a lot of good about it but I've never seen it in the UK (well, only at frightening import prices).
All the best
Rowan
Rowan,
thanks for taking the time to checkout my build to date. I've finished priming and black basing. When the colors are finished, I'll post another update.
A PM is coming your way.
Joel
Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 03:46 AM UTC
I've been following along quietly here as well Joel, very impressive work so far. It looks to be a very detailed kit and you are certainly doing it justice.
Cheers, D
Cheers, D
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 09:49 PM UTC
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I've been following along quietly here as well Joel, very impressive work so far. It looks to be a very detailed kit and you are certainly doing it justice.
Cheers, D
Damian
thanks so much my friend for checking in, and appreciating my efforts to date. Stop by anytime you feel like it, and let me know what you think of where I'm at.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 02:11 AM UTC
It's been more then two weeks since my last update, but the build has continued at my usual snail's pace. Finished up the re-puttying work, and primed with Mig Ammo black acrylic primer. Found more small issues, and reworked them. Then I re-primed, and everything looked ok, so I applied my Black Basing squigglies with Mig Ammo Gray primer.
Next work session I air brushed the bottom BS 210 Mig Ammo 243 Sky Type S from their Early RAF WWII set.
I didn't take any pictures during the individual painting steps, so these were shot after I completed the base color coats
Then I masked off the bottom for a hard demarcation line, and painted the top 1st with an overall coat of Mig Ammo BS 450 Medium Brown Dark Earth. I gave the paint a few days to dry, then came the long and laborious task of cutting the masks to make a hard line type B Camo pattern copying both the kit instructions and detail drawings I found online. I got close but it's not perfect by a long shot. Total time to complete the masking was 5 hours in one session.
After I cleaned my air brush I removed all the masking, and I was really quite pleased that I didn't have any issues with the hard line, and just two small spots on the bottom where the paint pulled off with the primer. I feathered it out with #8,000 & 12,000 Micro Mesh pads and re-painted. fortunately, it came out just fine.
For some reason when I edited the pictures the white balance seems off and the top side colors are a little to light and bright. Next photo session I'll go back to my old Auto WB settings and make the minor corrections in post rather then the pre-adjustments I made this time.
One issue is that the black basing really is almost completely hidden even though I thinned out the paint 2 parts paint to 4 parts Yellow Cap thinner. Just too many layers of paint. So I'll be doing post shading before decaling and weathering.
Thanks for stopping by and checking out my build to date.
Joel
Next work session I air brushed the bottom BS 210 Mig Ammo 243 Sky Type S from their Early RAF WWII set.
I didn't take any pictures during the individual painting steps, so these were shot after I completed the base color coats
Then I masked off the bottom for a hard demarcation line, and painted the top 1st with an overall coat of Mig Ammo BS 450 Medium Brown Dark Earth. I gave the paint a few days to dry, then came the long and laborious task of cutting the masks to make a hard line type B Camo pattern copying both the kit instructions and detail drawings I found online. I got close but it's not perfect by a long shot. Total time to complete the masking was 5 hours in one session.
After I cleaned my air brush I removed all the masking, and I was really quite pleased that I didn't have any issues with the hard line, and just two small spots on the bottom where the paint pulled off with the primer. I feathered it out with #8,000 & 12,000 Micro Mesh pads and re-painted. fortunately, it came out just fine.
For some reason when I edited the pictures the white balance seems off and the top side colors are a little to light and bright. Next photo session I'll go back to my old Auto WB settings and make the minor corrections in post rather then the pre-adjustments I made this time.
One issue is that the black basing really is almost completely hidden even though I thinned out the paint 2 parts paint to 4 parts Yellow Cap thinner. Just too many layers of paint. So I'll be doing post shading before decaling and weathering.
Thanks for stopping by and checking out my build to date.
Joel
rdt1953
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 02:17 AM UTC
Paint work looks good Joel - just as we all have come to expect . Looks like it could be done for Mosquitocon, yes ?
Richard
Richard
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 02:25 AM UTC
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Paint work looks good Joel - just as we all have come to expect . Looks like it could be done for Mosquitocon, yes ?
Richard
Richard,
so far so good with the paint, but a long way to go. Getting it ready for the Mosquitocon is iffy at best, but for sure the Noreastcon. As it is I'm bringing the F6F-3 Hellcat and my 1/32 A4-E Scooter. Might just bring the Mosquito even though it has a lot if issues when you look up close and personal
Joel
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 07:20 AM UTC
Joel, the paintwork looks spot on to me.
Just the right amount of pre-shade to my Mk1 eyeball.
Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Just the right amount of pre-shade to my Mk1 eyeball.
Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Willard79
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 08:22 AM UTC
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Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Hey, wash your mouth out...come on man!
Joel, my eye is picking out the black basing variation, lookin' good.
regards.
rdt1953
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 04:50 PM UTC
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Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Captured by the Italians and made into a night fighter !
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 09:04 PM UTC
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Joel, the paintwork looks spot on to me.
Just the right amount of pre-shade to my Mk1 eyeball.
Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Russell,
Glad you think that the pre-shading looks about right. I did take another long look, and it does seem more modulated.
If I left it in my black basing scheme, it would make a perfect German Night fighter.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 09:07 PM UTC
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Quoted TextWas thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Hey, wash your mouth out...come on man!
Joel, my eye is picking out the black basing variation, lookin' good.
regards.
Spud,
Thanks for stopping by, it's always much appreciated. You and Russell are right as you made me take another good look. Still could use a little more color modulation, but the basics are there.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 09:08 PM UTC
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Was thinking that it would make a great 'what if' had you left it in black basing/pre-shade colours
Captured by the Italians and made into a night fighter !
Richard,
good one. I was thinking more in the lines of a German Night fighter.
Joel
BlackWidow
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 12:50 AM UTC
Good paintwork on your Hurri, Joel! The pre-shading looks fine to me. I would leave it that way if I were you. But is it my monitor or is your Dark Earth really looking a bit pinkish .... ? Okay, I use a different brand and I believe every brand has its own tone, but Dark Earth in my opinion should look reddish brown. At least that's how it looks on my Hurri Mk. I and Ventura Mk. II.
Torsten
Torsten
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 01:57 AM UTC
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Good paintwork on your Hurri, Joel! The pre-shading looks fine to me. I would leave it that way if I were you. But is it my monitor or is your Dark Earth really looking a bit pinkish .... ? Okay, I use a different brand and I believe every brand has its own tone, but Dark Earth in my opinion should look reddish brown. At least that's how it looks on my Hurri Mk. I and Ventura Mk. II.
Torsten
Torsten,
Thanks so much for stopping by, it's always an honor to have you do so.
I'm still inclined to do a little post shading, but nearly as much as I originally thought necessary, as I'm now seeing more of the black basing effect come through as the colors cured as well as completely dried.
The other issue is that both top side colors just didn't photograph correctly as to what the actual Mig Ammo paints look like. I had a White Balance issue but corrected it in post, yet it still remained to some extent. Will be going back to my old 3 light setup with all 5500k bulbs and sticking with Auto White Balance, then correct as needed in post.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 02:13 AM UTC
I'm cross posting this question as I just can't find a picture of the leading edge of the Hurricane Mk1 wing. The Airfix kit has the .303 MG barrels stopping halfway through the wing spar. There is no barrel that goes into the leading edge so you can actually see the front of the barrel. The leading edge does have deep recessed depressions for the barrels, but no barrels.
Were the gun openings taped, have a plug, or did they in fact remain open where you could see the front of the barrel?
Any and all info especially any pictures would be great appreciated.
Joel
Were the gun openings taped, have a plug, or did they in fact remain open where you could see the front of the barrel?
Any and all info especially any pictures would be great appreciated.
Joel