Aircraft 'JEOPARDY' trivia 2
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 12:17 AM UTC
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I'd hoped to look very clever by giving a precis, but it's too early in the morning and my head hurts. 
Lol, that link explains the effect in
great detail.
The simple answer was that by having a larger opening to let air in to cool the radiator and a smaller opening behind to let the air out, the air is "squeezed" and some thrust is created to help propel the aircraft forward.
Your turn Dogload.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 12:27 AM UTC
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The simple answer was that by having a larger opening to let air in to cool the radiator and a smaller opening behind to let the air out, the air is "squeezed" and some thrust is created to help propel the aircraft forward.
The simple answer! I did try.
OK, here's my question:
What was the first powered aircraft not to have a propellor and what's it got to do with flying saucers?
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 01:10 AM UTC
A wild guess: The Hiller VZ-1 Pawnee, a sort of hovering platform.
Guess number 2: This thing
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 01:17 AM UTC
Sorry Davester, that's incorrect.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 07:16 AM UTC
Let the wild guesses continue!
Guess # 1: This thing (the Avrocar)
Guess # 2: This thing (the Haunebu 2)
:-) :-) :-)
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 07:35 AM UTC
Another random guess: The RFZ-2, which apparently
flew to South America.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 06:29 PM UTC
Sorry guys... the question was what was the
FIRST POWERED aircraft not to have a propellor and what does it have to do with flying saucers?
Clue: you've got the right flying saucers, but the plane in question was before them
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Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 05:03 PM UTC
Dogload, I have no idea what your asking but this is my best guess:
Hey look crop circles!
Northrop YB-49 first flew on 10/21/47 and stock footage of one in flight was used for (the original and best) "War of the Worlds"
Sincerely,
Brian
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Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 08:48 PM UTC
OK, sorry guys if this one's getting to you.
I'll draw it to a close and tell you. The plane was the Coanda 1910 (below)
The Roumanian designer Henri Coanda observed what later became known as the Coanda Effect, which is the principle by which aircraft such as the Avrocar can work for more info look
here and
here .
I'll pass this to Bf443 if noone objects, because of his crop circle observance and War of the Worlds trivia.
MC
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 08:28 AM UTC
Thanks Dogload,
I went to your link, that sure would have been "Flying with your seat on fire!" amazing 1910 to boot..........wow..........
Well this should not be to difficult:
Identify this plane type and the location of the photo.
Sincerely,
Brian
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 08:32 AM UTC
It's a PV-1, and is it on Tarawa?
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 03:20 PM UTC
Hello Dave,
Yes it is a PV-1 Ventura but its not on Tarawa. If you look in the background you can see some rather bare mountains.
Brian
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2005 - 07:05 PM UTC
I've got it. The photo was taken in the Aleutians, in Summer 1943. The photo was taken by Stan Piet.
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 01:23 PM UTC
Dave,
Good dectective work. The PV squadrons that served in Alaskan area worked in some of the worst conditions possible. If they went down the chance of rescue was almost non existent. They often flew without escort and had multiple dogfights with Japanese fighters and scored several air victories. The PV planes and crews have a interesting history.
Brian
There is only two kinds of fires. Those that use less than 500 gallons of water too extinguish and those that use WAY MORE!
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 05:18 PM UTC
Hi all!
I'll just add the "Ventura" is available in 1/48 thanks to the
French Fonderie Miniature (FM) kit! Minicraft has one in 1/72...
Jean-Luc
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Than think five minutes and build an hour!
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 06:32 PM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc
You should also note that the FM kit is based on Bill Koster's vacuform original - just like they did with the
Maryland.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 07:40 PM UTC
Ok, my question that is porbably really easy:
What was distinctive about the about the Messerschmitt Bf109T?
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 08:22 PM UTC
The T ("Träger"?) was the carrier-borne version.
Hasegawa has had a kit of the Bf109T
The T-2 had the hook and the details for catapults etc
Cheers!
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 08:29 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 11:10 PM UTC
Why did the Germans build a carrier version, when they didn't have any carriers
. Was it in case they ever got, built one.
Andy
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Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 12:16 AM UTC
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Why did the Germans build a carrier version, when they didn't have any carriers . Was it in case they ever got, built one.
Andy
Hi Andy
The Germans did construct a carrier - the Graf Zeppelin - but they never managed to complete the ship. You can read the story
here.
All the best
Rowan
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betheyn
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 01:39 AM UTC
Cheers Rowan, that is an interesting read.
I don't think it would have lasted very long if it was ever completed as every Allied ship would have wanted to sink it
:-).
Andy
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 02:12 AM UTC
Let's stick with the Flugzeugträger Graf Zeppelin for a while...
Which bomber was supposed to join the Bf109T:s on the carrier? And what was significant of this version of the bomber, compared to the well-known other members of the same family?
Ps. I would have loved to see either of these aircraft in the Air over the Sea Campaign...
Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 02:26 AM UTC
Hi PolarBear
That would be the Ju87C. Apart from the usual carrier-modifications, it featured a jettisonable main undercarriage for ditching.
All the best
Rowan
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Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2005 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hi again
Going back to the Bf 109T - here's one for collectors!
The Blueprint Models conversion which I made and marketed about 10 years ago... long before the MPM or Hasegawa kits appeared.
Maybe I'll build it one day for old times' sake - I can hear the kit collectors wailing "Sacrilege" already!
All the best
Rowan
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