Hi Warren
Well it was easy at first glance... but that's as far as it went! It's a mock-up (I can tell that much) and it's an American propeller (I think) and side-by-side seating as a trainer? (again, I think! It's looks like a Proctor "canopy" LOL!). Hmmmm...
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Friday, August 27, 2010 - 10:05 AM UTC
Posted: Friday, August 27, 2010 - 10:57 AM UTC
Its a Hamilton propellor,,do I get a point for that?
Heres what may or may not be an odd question...is it anything to do with India?
Nige
Heres what may or may not be an odd question...is it anything to do with India?
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 09:35 PM UTC
Getting warm Nigel...
Posted: Saturday, August 28, 2010 - 09:55 PM UTC
Hi Warren
Interesting - I looked at India and all the Commonwealth countries (and everywhere else I could think of! ) early on in my hunt, and didn't find a lead. Back to work...
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Rowan
Interesting - I looked at India and all the Commonwealth countries (and everywhere else I could think of! ) early on in my hunt, and didn't find a lead. Back to work...
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 02:55 AM UTC
HAL made Prentices under license. Is this a HAL prototype using bits and pieces they had available? Or are you amazing at photoshop? Or am I just barking up the wrong tree?
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 08:30 AM UTC
It might be a HAL prototype... But I am not very amazing with photoshop.. lol
Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 08:55 AM UTC
Hi Warren
A prototype? Looking at the starboard "wing" and the "canopy", and the way the propeller is supported by what appears to be a stout piece of timber, surely it's a mock-up?!
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Rowan
A prototype? Looking at the starboard "wing" and the "canopy", and the way the propeller is supported by what appears to be a stout piece of timber, surely it's a mock-up?!
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 11:48 AM UTC
I Googled "photo via B Harry" and all the results showed photos of Indian Air Force planes, hence the question about Indian origin.
That, apart from spotting the Hamilton prop is all I can come up with
Nige
That, apart from spotting the Hamilton prop is all I can come up with
Nige
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 07:59 PM UTC
Hmmm..Prototype/mock-up.. means the same thing..
Posted: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 09:55 PM UTC
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Hmmm..Prototype/mock-up.. means the same thing..
It doesn't, you know. A mock-up is a full-scale model of the real thing, generally made of cheap materials, that shows all the structural detail, engines, wiring positions etc, but only as representative shapes to demonstrate layout. It's never airworthy. A prototype is the first example of the real real thing, constructed out of the correct materials and fitted with actual engines, armament etc. It may not be perfected but it is at least airworthy.
If the mystery aircraft is Indian, it must be a proposal for a trainer that didn't enter service, and I don't think it can be Prentice-derived. Any more clues?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:07 PM UTC
I think I may have got a bit too anal with this one... It is Indian...
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Posted: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 06:53 PM UTC
Well, either I stumped you all or you got sick of looking.. The Mystery plane was the mock-up/prototype for the HAL HL-1... which never went into production...
Anyway, how about this one..
I even left the rego on the plane for you..
Anyway, how about this one..
I even left the rego on the plane for you..
Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 - 09:37 AM UTC
Well, that's HAL too - the Saras.
I've found nowt about the HL-1 anywhere - where did you find it?
I've found nowt about the HL-1 anywhere - where did you find it?
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Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 - 09:35 PM UTC
I found it with my laptop but I am not near that at the moment.. You are right about the second aircraft so away you go.. congratulations.
Posted: Friday, September 17, 2010 - 11:02 PM UTC
Hi Warren
Even knowing its identity, the HL-1 still doesn't turn up in any of my web-searches! It was a great find on your part.
All the best
Rowan
Even knowing its identity, the HL-1 still doesn't turn up in any of my web-searches! It was a great find on your part.
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 09:22 PM UTC
Even I can get a sitter like that ...
Right, then, with apologies for the delay, another of pigsty's awkward little questions. Which aircraft could be both a biplane and a monoplane?
Right, then, with apologies for the delay, another of pigsty's awkward little questions. Which aircraft could be both a biplane and a monoplane?
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Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 09:40 PM UTC
Hurricane with slip wing?
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Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 09:49 PM UTC
I think there was also a Russian prototype that had a wing that folded back into the body, but I can't recall the name of it.
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Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 10:14 PM UTC
An IS-1? ("IS" is for the Istriebitiel Skladnoj)
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Posted: Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 10:33 PM UTC
I now know what to do with my heller I-153.
Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 - 01:27 AM UTC
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I now know what to do with my heller I-153.
Burn it?
Warren is close - although, rather than folding back, the lower wing folded so that the inner section stood up against the side of the fuselage and the outer section hugged the underside of the upper wing. But Michal has identified it so it's over to him!
Potty idea, no?
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Posted: Monday, September 20, 2010 - 02:26 AM UTC
I saw this over on Hyperscale a few days ago, I should have remembered it:
Scratch-built IS-2 prototype
Scratch-built IS-2 prototype
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Posted: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 - 10:36 PM UTC
whadaya mean burn it? it matches the drawings in Miranda and Mercado almost perfect
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Posted: Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 08:54 PM UTC
I almost forgot about my turn. This time something simple.
What's this?
What's this?