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Discuss WWII and the era directly before and after the war from 1935-1949.
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Grems 1/24th Typhoon build
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 03:14 AM UTC
Gremlin56
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 04:33 AM UTC
your welcome......................
berndm
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 05:02 AM UTC
Hmm............wrote a letter to Santa
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 05:11 AM UTC
Hope he's listening Bernd,
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 05:35 AM UTC
September 3rd update:
The first step toward a naked Typhoon is taken here. If I cut a hole in the portside wing the strengtheners will now be visible.
It will also be possible to look inside the wheel well. I took out as much of the connecting plate on the wheel well covers as possible leaving just the strengtheners. Work on the ammo bins has also started:
After seeing a rather horrendous problem with the Typhoon's wing/fuselage joint on a build on Fine Scale Modeller I did a quick check of the fit on my build. Luckily no gaps, (so far )
The first step toward a naked Typhoon is taken here. If I cut a hole in the portside wing the strengtheners will now be visible.
It will also be possible to look inside the wheel well. I took out as much of the connecting plate on the wheel well covers as possible leaving just the strengtheners. Work on the ammo bins has also started:
After seeing a rather horrendous problem with the Typhoon's wing/fuselage joint on a build on Fine Scale Modeller I did a quick check of the fit on my build. Luckily no gaps, (so far )
berndm
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 06:07 AM UTC
...all these inner details are models on their own right !
Very well done so far, i hope everything will go together.
Cheers
Bernd
Very well done so far, i hope everything will go together.
Cheers
Bernd
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 06:10 AM UTC
Thank you Bernd, at the moment it still fits very snugly
Biggles87
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 01:17 AM UTC
Looking splendid Julian, I especially like the finish on the cannon. There are pictures of early Typhoons with only part shrouded barrels but they were all 'car door' canopy types with three bladed propellers, as far as I can see.
Keep up the good work.
John
Keep up the good work.
John
Biggles87
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 02:31 AM UTC
Hello again, I forgot to add this to my previous thread.
The fuel tanks on most if not all WWII aircraft were covered with a self-sealing compound coloured brick red (so I'm told). Will your wing tanks be visible?
The fuel tanks on most if not all WWII aircraft were covered with a self-sealing compound coloured brick red (so I'm told). Will your wing tanks be visible?
Gremlin56
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 03:45 AM UTC
Hi John,
interesting point on the fuel tank color. The instructions indicate a silver color and several builds follow this instruction. I have however found a build of the Typhoon that indicates a dark grey coating. Your remark on a red colored coating triggered a memory of several Spitfire and Hurricane builds that featured a brick red color on the fuel tanks.
Maybe Edgar can shed some light on this subject
interesting point on the fuel tank color. The instructions indicate a silver color and several builds follow this instruction. I have however found a build of the Typhoon that indicates a dark grey coating. Your remark on a red colored coating triggered a memory of several Spitfire and Hurricane builds that featured a brick red color on the fuel tanks.
Maybe Edgar can shed some light on this subject
Longshanks8
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 08:13 AM UTC
Love your work !!
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 06:42 PM UTC
Thank you.
How are things going with the Vosper? Seems rather quiet over at Model shipwrights at the moment.
How are things going with the Vosper? Seems rather quiet over at Model shipwrights at the moment.
Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 06:53 PM UTC
Looking good Julian, I'm just about to fit the lower wing on mine
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Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 07:26 PM UTC
That will make things a bit more solid Mal. Check the alignment of things on a regular basis though, that build on Fine Scale I mentioned looked rather grim
Had me grabbing all the wings and fuselage pieces to see if it all fit properly.
Had me grabbing all the wings and fuselage pieces to see if it all fit properly.
DanielMoscatelli
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 02:12 AM UTC
Incredible!!!
Cheers Daniel
Cheers Daniel
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 03:06 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Incredible!!!
Cheers Daniel
It gets even worse Daniel:
September 5th upgrade:
I did some butchering on the port-side wing opening up some holes to be able to view what's inside the wing. I took up John's suggestion and sprayed the fuel tanks a brick red color. I like it a lot more than the plain Jane steel:
I'll be doing more butchering on the fuselage sides, the starboard wing will remain as it is. Oh yes, nearly forgot the ammo belts, they still need some more work, (or i might strip the paint off with methylated spirits and do the job again; I know where I am going, I am in control. I think.)
Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 03:12 AM UTC
Beautiful work Julian, I love the cutaway on the wing as well, show off that detail !
Cheers, D
Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 03:15 AM UTC
Thanks Damian,
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 05:27 AM UTC
That looks great Julian, if you post it again in B&W it will look just like one of the cutaway drawings in the comic books I used to read when I was 12 (don't ask)!
Still very Here
John
Still very Here
John
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 05:37 AM UTC
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That looks great Julian, if you post it again in B&W it will look just like one of the cutaway drawings in the comic books I used to read when I was 12 (don't ask)!
Still very Here
John
Thanks John, the fuel tank idea was good, nice contrast. I tried grey first but that looked dreadful. I might try some fun with filters and photoshop, might look good in sepia or B&W.
France, sun, wine and good food, must be hard
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 06:59 AM UTC
Great work Julian ! It is a good idea to save the effort, well done
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 06:37 PM UTC
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Great work Julian ! It is a good idea to save the effort, well done
Thanks Bernd,
There is too much happening inside this model to just seal things up, hence the "naked Typhoon" idea.
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 08:30 PM UTC
Julian,
There are a lot of Typhoons being built out there but I think yours is setting the bench mark !!
I think the cut away idea is brilliant.
The brick red fuel tanks is much more fit for purpose
How did you do the cut out?
Cheers Kev
There are a lot of Typhoons being built out there but I think yours is setting the bench mark !!
I think the cut away idea is brilliant.
The brick red fuel tanks is much more fit for purpose
How did you do the cut out?
Cheers Kev
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 08:41 PM UTC
Thanks Kev,
the surgery was easy but you do have to work out where you make the hole. I covered the port wing part with frisket film and cut it to size. Then I peeled off the frisket and put it over the internal structure. I was able to work out where the hole should be and drew this on the frisket with magic marker. Then I peeled the frisket off again and reapplied it to the wing part. I was then able to drill holes along the lines that showed where the hole should be and after that used a razor saw to cut the offending pieces out. After that a quick but messy grind with a sanding stone in the trusty Dremel and a final sanding to smooth things down. The workshop looked extremely messy with me nearly up to the ankles in plastic grindings. Mrs. Gremlin was not amused
the surgery was easy but you do have to work out where you make the hole. I covered the port wing part with frisket film and cut it to size. Then I peeled off the frisket and put it over the internal structure. I was able to work out where the hole should be and drew this on the frisket with magic marker. Then I peeled the frisket off again and reapplied it to the wing part. I was then able to drill holes along the lines that showed where the hole should be and after that used a razor saw to cut the offending pieces out. After that a quick but messy grind with a sanding stone in the trusty Dremel and a final sanding to smooth things down. The workshop looked extremely messy with me nearly up to the ankles in plastic grindings. Mrs. Gremlin was not amused
Gremlin56
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 04:12 AM UTC
The cannon shrouds are an interesting challenge on the Typhoon build if you plan on replacing the plastic Hispano barrels with brass after market ones. Airfix seems to have designed the barrel for the shroud instead of the other way around. Logical,because they assume you will use the box parts and so will not have any problems but if you keep the brass barrels you have to grind the shrouds down to paper thickness so that they fit around the brass replacements. I have been trying several game plans this afternoon and think I know which direction to take here. No photos just yet and more to follow on this subject