Some more Typhoon related goodies arrived today, the "Through the lens Typhoon at war" booklet and Radu's rather intimidating Sutton harness.



Now I have to guy buy a new book. I'll need your mailing address so my wife can track you down.
The harness fits well. Luckily you only have to do one lol. The metal rings really only need to be on one side if you don't twist the belt around. I used t toothpick to put superglue on the belt around the hole and then used tweezers to drop the rings in place.
The hardest part is running the straps, just takes time and patience
Edit - Where did you find that book?
Sorry, that wasn't very clear, I meant of course the earlier type Sutton harness with holes as opposed to the later type with the parachute type box fastening which was still a Sutton harness.
A nice start JulianI must get on with mine
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You might check out Amazon.co.uk
There are a couple of dvd's on sale about the Typhoon.
I ordered this:
The Royal Air Force Collection - Typhoon At War [DVD]
cheers,
Julian
Quoted TextSorry, that wasn't very clear, I meant of course the earlier type Sutton harness with holes as opposed to the later type with the parachute type box fastening which was still a Sutton harness.
Sorry, but, no, it wasn't; the Sutton was invented by an officer, called Sutton, during WWI, and was only the single design.
Most often, the later harness, with the quick-release box, was simply known as the "Q" type, which was a recipe for confusion, since one Spitfire Sutton was known as the "QK."
Because only one Typhoon airframe survives, we can't be sure about the harness, since even the Pilot's Notes seem to have never got beyond the car-door type, but the repair manual only illustrates a Sutton.
Incidentally, a Sutton should not be "draped" across the seat base, since the areas with the holes had a strip of steel sewn inside for strengthening, so were stiff as a board. This would surely have made them a nightmare to pull free from under a pilot's backside, which was why you often see them hanging outside the cockpit.
Edgar - can you post some photos of that metal strip or how that part of the belt would look. I've been doing it wrong and would like to see how it should look.
Quoted TextThis is Typhoon I mentioned above, I like the general appearance and it's rather colorful too:
I hope that Profile Publications don't take affront to my posting the drawing here.
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I think that one has largely been debunked as being a fictional scheme.
Quoted TextEdgar - can you post some photos of that metal strip or how that part of the belt would look. I've been doing it wrong and would like to see how it should look.
I'll have a look, but there's really nothing to see; the metal was sewn inside the belts, leaving only the fabric (and holes) to look at. The only clue (and it was years before I discovered this) is the absolute rigidity of that section of each belt.
The tips of the belts were also numbered 1-4 (best of luck doing that in the smaller scales,) since the sequence was left shoulder, right thigh, left thigh, right shoulder, with the connecting pin appearing through a hole in strap 1, and the securing, triangular pin attached, with a cord, to strap 4.
I believe that this was done because most people are right-handed, and the right hand would naturally fall on the clip during bale-out (parachute ripcord handles are on the pilot's left side for the same reason.)
Edgar
P.S. This might help, but the stiffness is only apparent if you already know it's there:-
Quoted TextEdgar - can you post some photos of that metal strip or how that part of the belt would look. I've been doing it wrong and would like to see how it should look.
I'll have a look, but there's really nothing to see; the metal was sewn inside the belts, leaving only the fabric (and holes) to look at. The only clue (and it was years before I discovered this) is the absolute rigidity of that section of each belt.
The tips of the belts were also numbered 1-4 (best of luck doing that in the smaller scales,) since the sequence was left shoulder, right thigh, left thigh, right shoulder, with the connecting pin appearing through a hole in strap 1, and the securing, triangular pin attached, with a cord, to strap 4.
I believe that this was done because most people are right-handed, and the right hand would naturally fall on the clip during bale-out (parachute ripcord handles are on the pilot's left side for the same reason.)
Edgar
P.S. This might help, but the stiffness is only apparent if you already know it's there:-
Julian,
I use Flory washes for sludge washes. The only colors I found necessary are the Dark and light washes, as you can mix them for any tone you need for a particular application. I still prefer enamel oil washes for pin washes and detail areas.
Joel
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