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1/48 scale Tamiya Mosquito Mk VI
KelticKnot
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 12:31 PM UTC
Fine work Joel, I too have been thinking about paint for the Lanc this past week and was considering trying this technique for the camouflage areas. Love the mottled effect you've achieved so far.
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 02:11 PM UTC
Joel,
I think it looks cool as is! Your painting effects are always eye-catching, and I'm pretty sure you'll be inspiring several others to emulate your technique.
Gary
I think it looks cool as is! Your painting effects are always eye-catching, and I'm pretty sure you'll be inspiring several others to emulate your technique.
Gary
Kilo_Uniform
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 02:27 PM UTC
Hi Joel,
Your Mossie is looking great - I really like the paint job!
Recently watched the old (1964?) movie called Mosquito Squadron - enjoyed it thoroughly.
Looking forward to the next update.
Regards,
Kobus
Your Mossie is looking great - I really like the paint job!
Recently watched the old (1964?) movie called Mosquito Squadron - enjoyed it thoroughly.
Looking forward to the next update.
Regards,
Kobus
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 10:04 PM UTC
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Joel - Looking really good - I'm anxious to see the next step in painting .
Richard
Richard,
Thanks for stopping by. I'm looking forward to finishing the basic Camo paint scheme myself.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 10:10 PM UTC
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Fine work Joel, I too have been thinking about paint for the Lanc this past week and was considering trying this technique for the camouflage areas. Love the mottled effect you've achieved so far.
Paul,
the beauty of the Black Basing primer is to make it both nearly fool proof and random at the same time. I was surprised at how much different the results were then when I did gray with black blotches.
Also the thinning of all the paints is super important. Up until this build I've always thinned Tamiya paints 50:50 and used 18-20 psi flow rate. With the thinning at 1:3 and dropping the flow rate to 16 psi it's a whole new ballgame.
I'm going to do some testing with Lifecolor paints with a 1:3 thinning ratio (their thinner) and a drop or two of Vajello acrylic retarder, to see if the dreaded tip clogging I constantly have to deal with is controllable using these procedures.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 10:15 PM UTC
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Joel,
I think it looks cool as is! Your painting effects are always eye-catching, and I'm pretty sure you'll be inspiring several others to emulate your technique.
Gary
Gary,
Glad that you stopped in for a look. The Black basing effects really do like more realistic then almost anything else I've tried over the years. Post Shading gave about the same results, but took hours longer, and required a lot more concentration.
After letting the color coat dry for a day then checking out the finish, I'm inclined to think that the bottom could use another lite coat to reduce the fading effect a tad. It should be less then the top sides that receives direct sunlight and exposure to rain, wind, etc. Right now they look about the same to me.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, October 09, 2016 - 10:17 PM UTC
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Hi Joel,
Your Mossie is looking great - I really like the paint job!
Recently watched the old (1964?) movie called Mosquito Squadron - enjoyed it thoroughly.
Looking forward to the next update.
Regards,
Kobus
Kobus,
Thanks for checking my latest update. Glade that you like what you've seen.
Hopefully, the next update will be this coming weekend.
Joel
KelticKnot
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 04:01 PM UTC
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Paul,
the beauty of the Black Basing primer is to make it both nearly fool proof and random at the same time. I was surprised at how much different the results were then when I did gray with black blotches.
Also the thinning of all the paints is super important. Up until this build I've always thinned Tamiya paints 50:50 and used 18-20 psi flow rate. With the thinning at 1:3 and dropping the flow rate to 16 psi it's a whole new ballgame.
I'm going to do some testing with Lifecolor paints with a 1:3 thinning ratio (their thinner) and a drop or two of Vajello acrylic retarder, to see if the dreaded tip clogging I constantly have to deal with is controllable using these procedures.
Joel
Thanks for the technical advice Joel, I'm looking forward to seeing how you deal with the camo but I suspect it's more of the same - building up very thin coats to preserve the effect you've achieved so far?
SteveAndrews
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 04:42 PM UTC
Hey Joel
I've just spent a pleasant lunch time reading your blog. The work looks great and the mottling pre-shade could add some great tones to the top coats. I'll be dropping by to say hi and see how you're getting on.
May your airbrush never clog!
Happy modelling.
Steve
I've just spent a pleasant lunch time reading your blog. The work looks great and the mottling pre-shade could add some great tones to the top coats. I'll be dropping by to say hi and see how you're getting on.
May your airbrush never clog!
Happy modelling.
Steve
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 07:54 PM UTC
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Quoted TextPaul,
the beauty of the Black Basing primer is to make it both nearly fool proof and random at the same time. I was surprised at how much different the results were then when I did gray with black blotches.
Also the thinning of all the paints is super important. Up until this build I've always thinned Tamiya paints 50:50 and used 18-20 psi flow rate. With the thinning at 1:3 and dropping the flow rate to 16 psi it's a whole new ballgame.
I'm going to do some testing with Lifecolor paints with a 1:3 thinning ratio (their thinner) and a drop or two of Vajello acrylic retarder, to see if the dreaded tip clogging I constantly have to deal with is controllable using these procedures.
Joel
Thanks for the technical advice Joel, I'm looking forward to seeing how you deal with the camo but I suspect it's more of the same - building up very thin coats to preserve the effect you've achieved so far?
Paul,
That's exactly the plan. 1:3 thinning ratio for lite for the Dark Green #2 color coat. I'm planning on using Silly Putty over Blue Tac, which I have a great deal of trouble getting to stick, to create the demarcation line. but I'm going to use thin worms so that it almost looks like a hard edge.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
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Hey Joel
I've just spent a pleasant lunch time reading your blog. The work looks great and the mottling pre-shade could add some great tones to the top coats. I'll be dropping by to say hi and see how you're getting on.
May your airbrush never clog!
Happy modelling.
Steve
Steve,
Thanks so much for stopping by, it's much appreciated.
And yeah, the mottling really allows you to have that random weathered/faded look without any real concerted effort. the more layers, the lighter it looks. As I said before, I'm almost surely going to add another few layers on the undersides so that the weathering effect looks less then the topside.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 03:42 AM UTC
Time for another short update.
This week was all about applying the Dark Green RAF #2 color to the camo pattern. Years past I would have free handed the tight feathered edges, but with my poor eyesight and slight hand shaking, that's no longer a realistic option. So I once again went with the worm method.
My 1st experience with the worm method was with the PV-1 build. Honestly, it could have been a lot better. But I learned from that experience, and a little additional practice, the results are that much better. That I can't compare the two efforts.
I elected to continue with the Tamiya acrylics paints, and used their XF-81 Dark Green RAF #2 paint. I thinned it 1 part paint to 3 parts Tamiya Yellow Cap, and shot it @ a flow rate of 16 psi. For the worms I used Silly Putty rather then Blu Tac. I find that it sticks better to the raw paint, yet doesn't leave any oily residue. I covered the gray surfaces with Tamiya tape that I detacked by applying it to my cutting matt a few times rather then my arm, as I was concerned about the oils from my skin getting transferred to the paint surface.
As with the gray base color, I applied the color coat is light coats, trying not to cover up the blotchy effect achieved in the gray color coat. What I'm finding is that the darker the color, the more variation there is the color application. I used my Iwata HP-M2 with a 3.5 needle for a wider spray pattern. The applied effect is pretty near what I wanted to achieve, and once the decals are on and coated, some further light weathering will be applied that should help to further blend the colors.
Joel
This week was all about applying the Dark Green RAF #2 color to the camo pattern. Years past I would have free handed the tight feathered edges, but with my poor eyesight and slight hand shaking, that's no longer a realistic option. So I once again went with the worm method.
My 1st experience with the worm method was with the PV-1 build. Honestly, it could have been a lot better. But I learned from that experience, and a little additional practice, the results are that much better. That I can't compare the two efforts.
I elected to continue with the Tamiya acrylics paints, and used their XF-81 Dark Green RAF #2 paint. I thinned it 1 part paint to 3 parts Tamiya Yellow Cap, and shot it @ a flow rate of 16 psi. For the worms I used Silly Putty rather then Blu Tac. I find that it sticks better to the raw paint, yet doesn't leave any oily residue. I covered the gray surfaces with Tamiya tape that I detacked by applying it to my cutting matt a few times rather then my arm, as I was concerned about the oils from my skin getting transferred to the paint surface.
As with the gray base color, I applied the color coat is light coats, trying not to cover up the blotchy effect achieved in the gray color coat. What I'm finding is that the darker the color, the more variation there is the color application. I used my Iwata HP-M2 with a 3.5 needle for a wider spray pattern. The applied effect is pretty near what I wanted to achieve, and once the decals are on and coated, some further light weathering will be applied that should help to further blend the colors.
Joel
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 04:12 AM UTC
Joel,
Good to see some color on her. I will be looking forward to how your fading and other effects look.
Gaz
Good to see some color on her. I will be looking forward to how your fading and other effects look.
Gaz
magnusf
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 12:02 PM UTC
Joel! Good strategy, put the decals on and check what it looks like, then you can tone down the "splotchy" effects if you want to. Easier that than trying to bring the effect back from a perfectly solid coat of paint!
I DO need to wake up my long dormant Mossie project. Also a Tamiya but 1/72 of course
!
Magnus
I DO need to wake up my long dormant Mossie project. Also a Tamiya but 1/72 of course
! Magnus
KelticKnot
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 04:29 PM UTC
Looking good so far Joel , although Mosquitos were very sleek a subtle panel line wash or something like that will really pull it all together so I'm eager to see what technique to go for.
Redhand
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 06:28 PM UTC
Jeeze, how many have you build while I'm stuck on LL? Another fine effort I see. When I get to the exterior of mine you can bet I'll be asking you for guidance oh irregular weathering and the like!
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 08:56 PM UTC
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Jeeze, how many have you build while I'm stuck on LL? Another fine effort I see. When I get to the exterior of mine you can bet I'll be asking you for guidance oh irregular weathering and the like!
Brian,
When I read through the 4 posts, yours caused me to really think of just how many models I've built since you started Luscious Lady way back in April 2014. So here's my list from present time to then. All the builds are in 1/48 scale Except the F2A-3:
Accurate Miniature's B-25B Mitchell
Revell PV-1 Ventura
Eduard/Hasegawa A-4F Scooter
Czech F2A-3 Buffalo
Eduard Mk IX Spitfire
GWH F-15C Eagle
Academy P-38J Lightning
Hobby Boss A-6E Intruder
Academy F4B Phantom started 6/14
Certainly the list demonstrates quantity over quality.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 08:59 PM UTC
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Joel,
Good to see some color on her. I will be looking forward to how your fading and other effects look.
Gaz
Gary,
This build is taking longer then any build I've done since coming back into the hobby. I'm into my 5th month now, and still have a ways to go. Finally reaching the basic paint stage is another milestone in this epic build.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 09:08 PM UTC
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Looking good so far Joel , although Mosquitos were very sleek a subtle panel line wash or something like that will really pull it all together so I'm eager to see what technique to go for.
Paul,
That's my intention as well. The few panel lines will be accented with Tamiya Panel Line Accent Color Black. I'm still considering a blotchy sludge wash on the top, and oil washes on the bottom.
Joel
Redhand
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 10:45 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextJeeze, how many have you build while I'm stuck on LL? Another fine effort I see. When I get to the exterior of mine you can bet I'll be asking you for guidance oh irregular weathering and the like!
Brian,
When I read through the 4 posts, yours caused me to really think of just how many models I've built since you started Luscious Lady way back in April 2014. So here's my list from present time to then. All the builds are in 1/48 scale Except the F2A-3:
Accurate Miniature's B-25B Mitchell
Revell PV-1 Ventura
Eduard/Hasegawa A-4F Scooter
Czech F2A-3 Buffalo
Eduard Mk IX Spitfire
GWH F-15C Eagle
Academy P-38J Lightning
Hobby Boss A-6E Intruder
Academy F4B Phantom started 6/14
Certainly the list demonstrates quantity over quality.
Joel
Nine builds is damn impressive!
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 11:37 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextQuoted TextJeeze, how many have you build while I'm stuck on LL? Another fine effort I see. When I get to the exterior of mine you can bet I'll be asking you for guidance oh irregular weathering and the like!
Brian,
When I read through the 4 posts, yours caused me to really think of just how many models I've built since you started Luscious Lady way back in April 2014. So here's my list from present time to then. All the builds are in 1/48 scale Except the F2A-3:
Accurate Miniature's B-25B Mitchell
Revell PV-1 Ventura
Eduard/Hasegawa A-4F Scooter
Czech F2A-3 Buffalo
Eduard Mk IX Spitfire
GWH F-15C Eagle
Academy P-38J Lightning
Hobby Boss A-6E Intruder
Academy F4B Phantom started 6/14
Certainly the list demonstrates quantity over quality.
Joel
Nine builds is damn impressive!
Brian,
None are cutting edge IPMS National Ribbon winners. Luscious Lady could very will take the Judges Award or Best in Show voted on by the convention attendees at the 2018 Mosquitocon and any other convention we'll attend.
Joel
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Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 06:22 AM UTC
Finally it's time for another update.
For the past two weeks I've been slowly decaling the Mossie using the Aviaeology RCAF Mosquitoes Canadian in Fighter Command Sheet #1. The Aircraft I've chosen to depict is the Mosquito FB VI SZ976 TH V of the 418 Squadron RCAF, RAC 2nd Tactical Air Force Coxyde, Belgium, circa spring of 1945. The Mossie was nicked named: Amigo Panchito, and piloted by a Amerian Texan S/L Vic Cherry.
This is my second time using the Aviaeology decals, and once again quality is pure excellence. The decals are thin but not to thin so you can handle them without issue. The colors are dead on, and in perfect register. The instruction sheet is in reality a mini monograph on the various planes details and markings. I look forward to using their decals on other builds that they have decals for.
After the final color coat, the entire fuselage was lightly rubbed out, and then two light coats of Testors Glosscoat followed by two heavy coats, and allowed to dry for what turned out to be two days before I could start the decaling process. Using warm water to loosen the decals, I used the decaling system that I originally adapted from Paul Budzik. Micro Set, Micro Sol, and finally Solvaset. All the decals settled down quite nicely into the recessed panel lines without a single issue.
Here's two overall views:
One really nice feature of the decals is that the TH V have as much of the clear decal film removed, which greatly reduces any change of silvering. the Roundels also have nearly no clear film around them.
There is just enough stencils to add realism and interest:
and even on the Elevators:
To be perfectly honest, I did screw up one decal really bad. the red box over the engine oil radiators. All the clear has been removed making for a rather difficult time positioning, and naturally I screwed one up. So I had to go to plan B, and use the Tamiya decals for both radiators!! To my suprise they laid down perfectly with my decaling system, and have given me a positive insight into using them for future builds.
After a few days to dry, I'll coat the entire aircraft with Testors Glosscoat, and start the weatering process.
Still left to start is the main gear, the props & spinners, and the finish up the launch rails and rockets. This build will have reached the start of the 5th month, and I've still got quite a lot to accomplish before I've crossed the finish line.
Joel
For the past two weeks I've been slowly decaling the Mossie using the Aviaeology RCAF Mosquitoes Canadian in Fighter Command Sheet #1. The Aircraft I've chosen to depict is the Mosquito FB VI SZ976 TH V of the 418 Squadron RCAF, RAC 2nd Tactical Air Force Coxyde, Belgium, circa spring of 1945. The Mossie was nicked named: Amigo Panchito, and piloted by a Amerian Texan S/L Vic Cherry.
This is my second time using the Aviaeology decals, and once again quality is pure excellence. The decals are thin but not to thin so you can handle them without issue. The colors are dead on, and in perfect register. The instruction sheet is in reality a mini monograph on the various planes details and markings. I look forward to using their decals on other builds that they have decals for.
After the final color coat, the entire fuselage was lightly rubbed out, and then two light coats of Testors Glosscoat followed by two heavy coats, and allowed to dry for what turned out to be two days before I could start the decaling process. Using warm water to loosen the decals, I used the decaling system that I originally adapted from Paul Budzik. Micro Set, Micro Sol, and finally Solvaset. All the decals settled down quite nicely into the recessed panel lines without a single issue.
Here's two overall views:
One really nice feature of the decals is that the TH V have as much of the clear decal film removed, which greatly reduces any change of silvering. the Roundels also have nearly no clear film around them.
There is just enough stencils to add realism and interest:
and even on the Elevators:
To be perfectly honest, I did screw up one decal really bad. the red box over the engine oil radiators. All the clear has been removed making for a rather difficult time positioning, and naturally I screwed one up. So I had to go to plan B, and use the Tamiya decals for both radiators!! To my suprise they laid down perfectly with my decaling system, and have given me a positive insight into using them for future builds.
After a few days to dry, I'll coat the entire aircraft with Testors Glosscoat, and start the weatering process.
Still left to start is the main gear, the props & spinners, and the finish up the launch rails and rockets. This build will have reached the start of the 5th month, and I've still got quite a lot to accomplish before I've crossed the finish line.
Joel
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 08:42 AM UTC
Joel,
Your mossie is really starting to look interesting. Decals look good and add some neccesary detail to a large-ish kit. Looking forward to see how you draw it all together with weathering and final building steps.
Gaz
Your mossie is really starting to look interesting. Decals look good and add some neccesary detail to a large-ish kit. Looking forward to see how you draw it all together with weathering and final building steps.
Gaz
KelticKnot
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 04:35 PM UTC
She's really coming to life now Joel, the decals look great.
rochaped
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Posted: Saturday, October 29, 2016 - 04:46 PM UTC
Joel,
Like all of the above said, your Mossie is really coming about fine.
Your painting approach is quite different from mine, so I always enjoy looking. Much like Matriaxone, your faded paint technique delivers a convincing result, very eye catching.
Cheers
Pedro
Like all of the above said, your Mossie is really coming about fine.
Your painting approach is quite different from mine, so I always enjoy looking. Much like Matriaxone, your faded paint technique delivers a convincing result, very eye catching.
Cheers
Pedro
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