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Lawnguylander
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 02:59 PM UTC
OK, I am SERIOUSLY impressed that you got that one!!
madcat911
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 09:57 PM UTC
Actually.... no.

F-5S is very close though.
warreni
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:04 PM UTC

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Actually.... no.

F-5S is very close though.



I beg to differ. One of them is the cockpit of an F-5S, the other one is the cockpit of an F-5T....
madcat911
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:23 PM UTC
Well, the 2 photos are both of an F-5T. One is of the front cockpit and the other is of the rear cockpit.

So who wins?
warreni
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:34 PM UTC
I thought the front cockpit was the F-5S and the rear cockpit the F-5T.. You asked the question Sir so you are the judge..
madcat911
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:39 PM UTC
Well, you're the only one to bring up F-5T so, Warren, it's your turn.

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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 01:56 AM UTC
After all Waren found it first, and had the courtesy of giving us rest a go.
So Waren lets hear it from you.
warreni
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 08:22 AM UTC
Thanks Guys..

This is where I found my information about the cockpits..

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/lofiversion/index.php?t134804-50.html

Now, a nice easy one for you all.. and this is straight from memory of an article I read many moons ago, which aircraft had the largest main landing gear wheels?
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:50 PM UTC
I'd say B-36 or XB-36. 110 inch diameter wheels in early stages. However it was later replaced by multiple wheeled legs.
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 05:52 AM UTC
XHB-1 had pretty big boots for it's size, but not 110 inches!! Blimey!
warreni
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 09:15 AM UTC
Oops! Sorry for the delay.. You are correct Antonatos.

From Wikipedia - 'The tricycle landing gear system's initial main gear design, incorporating huge single wheels that would quickly be found to cause significant ground pressure problems, only allowed the B-36 to land at just three airports in the United States (Fort Worth, Eglin Field, Florida, and Fairfield-Suisun Field (now Travis AFB) in California[9]), mandated that Consolidated design a four-wheeled truck-type wheel arrangement for the main gear instead, which distributed the weight more evenly and reduced weight by 1,500 lb.'

Next question..
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 07:54 PM UTC
Well what do you know my first question.
Awright.... Here we go. From the beginning of aviation days, it is known that multi engined planes, have equally multi throttled cockpits. That is, number of engines, equals number of throttles on all planes…..except one. Please name the one. That's it guys and "Christos Anesti" (Easter wishes) from Greece.
warreni
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011 - 09:41 PM UTC
Space Shuttle?
madcat911
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Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 05:42 PM UTC
Yak-38 Forger?
architect
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Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:48 AM UTC
Hi guys thanks for your answers.
Warren I’m afraid no. We are looking for a traditional atmospheric-powered and-controlled-flight-good old plane.
Mark, you got me thinking…but no. Yak 38 had a main engine with two nozzles, and two auxiliary smaller ones, separately controlled in the cockpit. I’m frantically trying to back it up with a photo, but no much lack so far. If supported otherwise, I’ll be happy to be wrong.
Cheers
warreni
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Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 06:10 AM UTC
Antonatos, Having a bit of flying experience in multi-engine aircraft I can't imagine not wanting to control both engines independently in case of losing power in one engine and having to increase throttle to keep the kite flying straight.. Google has lots of cockpit photos if you need a source. But could it be the VF-22 Osprey?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 08:07 PM UTC
Good morning Warren.
I didn’t know I was speaking to an experienced airman. So I should say that controlling your engines independently, gives you the advantage of regulating power should something goes wrong….unless a guy called le computeur, does that for you. It is more of a designer’s choice, given the fact that no other example even newer ones, has incorporated such a thing.
As for the Osprey, yes there is only one throttle or Torque Control Lever as they call it, and it could qualify as an answer, along with every multy engined helicopter, because, the TCL controls blade pitch, more along the lines of a collective.
What I have in mind, is a traditionally operating airplane, with only one lever regulating the actual turn rate of two engines thus.
Cheers.
warreni
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Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 08:20 PM UTC
Not a problem Antonatos..

Yes, you are right about helicopters, but I wasn't classifying the Osprey as a helicopter... But that is a large bone of contention with anyone to do with the Osprey by the look of it..

Now lets see...

1. One throttle for two engines.
2. If that is the case then the engines may have to be close together to stop problems with asymetric thrust...

Am I on the right track?
warreni
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Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 09:27 PM UTC
Soko J-22 Orao?
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 12:06 AM UTC
My friend Warre, there are many more hints in my previous answer. Anyway lets see.
You are right about the distance between the engines, but by chance... Why should it be a problem? If le computeur is doing all the hard job why couldn't he stabilise the extra torque? Err... no... no Orao Galeb.
jaypee
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 07:23 AM UTC
Cessna Skymaster?

EDIT: naw, scratch that.
warreni
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 07:55 AM UTC

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My friend Warre, there are many more hints in my previous answer. Anyway lets see.
You are right about the distance between the engines, but by chance... Why should it be a problem? If le computeur is doing all the hard job why couldn't he stabilise the extra torque? Err... no... no Orao Galeb.



Because computers can fail.. And there must be two then as the Soko has one throttle lever for two engines as well....

@ JP, I looked at the Skymaster very early on and it has two levers,, as does the Do335..
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 08:22 AM UTC
With your permission Gentlemen... http://www.mycity.rs/slika.php?slika=54111_198137142_Oraocockpitlijevo2.jpg j-22 has two levers. Now as for the side joystick, must be something of a weapons guidance of the Grom-1 Radio-guided AGM.
warreni
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 08:34 AM UTC
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=30360

Read here about half way down,

"Cockpit is pretty old fashioned, russian sturdy approach but western electronics from '70s. Just note single throttle arm in a twin engine plane! "
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Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 08:47 AM UTC
Well I'm afraid he's wrong.
http://www.mycity-military.com/Avijacija-i-PVO/J-22-Orao.html
If you notice the lever in question, is rotating outside any slots you would find on any old fashioned throttle. Also, there is a corresponding similar lever on the other side. My guess is that it's the canopy activator.
On the first picture I sent you one can clearly read "GAS" on the mid rail of the two levers...and there you have your throttles.