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1:16 Hasagawa Sopwith Camel.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 01:45 AM UTC

I am building the Hasagawa center section right now ,here is the Model Airways one I built a few years ago as an old barnstormer being sent to Hollywood for use in the movies.
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 02:30 AM UTC
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Where is the location of the diarama that holds the crated Camel Wing?

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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 02:56 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 04:24 AM UTC
John, It's really hard viewing the 3 sections on a pc monitor and trying to figure out which one looks the most realistic. Right now the finished one of the right looks the best to me because there is a yellowish hue that just looks near perfect. The other two sections are just to light in color/shade. But again, that's on my pc monitor.
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 07:19 AM UTC

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John, It's really hard viewing the 3 sections on a pc monitor and trying to figure out which one looks the most realistic. Right now the finished one of the right looks the best to me because there is a yellowish hue that just looks near perfect. The other two sections are just to light in color/shade. But again, that's on my pc monitor.
Joel

Joel,I think that you are right,one looks like raw wood while the other looks varnished.I prefer the vanished myself.Thanks for the feedback.
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 07:21 AM UTC

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dolly15

Where is the location of the diarama that holds the crated Camel Wing?

Captn Tommy


At the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa.
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 10:06 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013 - 07:16 AM UTC

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At the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa.


I hope to get up there once again in 2014.

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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013 - 09:35 AM UTC

Captn Tommy They sent me this pic only yesterday,I hope that you will take some better ones. Cheers! John.
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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013 - 10:22 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 09:34 AM UTC
John, I have to admit that the level of detail is just mind boggling.
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Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:46 AM UTC

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John, I have to admit that the level of detail is just mind boggling.
Joel

I agree and yet there is still enough left for the super-detailer to add the plumbing and electrical behind the cowlings if need be.They cheated a bit here but that is understandable to keep the costs down.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 04:00 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:32 AM UTC

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At the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa.


I hope to get up there once again in 2014.

Captn Tommy

Here are some better pics that they sent me today,Tommy.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:45 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:53 AM UTC

I like the Flier in the background.I also like it that they left the side and back panels in their original state,sort of like the rear of a painting
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:03 AM UTC
This is an interesting pic,no story just landscape.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 09:13 AM UTC

Note the LED lighting in the windows. The real storyline is pretty much confined to the left hand bottom of the pic.It is dedicated to all the wounded warriors who had difficulty adapting back to civilian life.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
John, this is the 1st opportunity I've had to see your diorama. It's just on a level one rarely sees. A complete scene even without the flyer in it. To me that makes the whole that much more complete and complex, as it's a "slice" of life that would have existed either way.

Yet with the addition of the frame aircraft the scene itself just doesn't change, it just gets better for the viewer. Many dioramas suffer from that exact issue; remove the central modeled subject, and the scene become almost meaningless.

Joel


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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 04:11 AM UTC
I remember this, it is sad, and wonderful. It has that peacefulness one rarely sees in a diaroma. It is on the sale scale of feeling as Norman Rockwell's "Homecoming." I will get a picture when I'm there.

Merry Christmas, to you and the guy in the diarama... His Mom will be surprised.

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 10:28 AM UTC

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John, this is the 1st opportunity I've had to see your diorama. It's just on a level one rarely sees. A complete scene even without the flyer in it. To me that makes the whole that much more complete and complex, as it's a "slice" of life that would have existed either way.

Yet with the addition of the frame aircraft the scene itself just doesn't change, it just gets better for the viewer. Many dioramas suffer from that exact issue; remove the central modeled subject, and the scene become almost meaningless.

Joel



The best dioramas usually tell their own story ,even without a formal title.It is not always easy to achieve but it is wonderful when it happens.
Actually I wanted to do this as a minimalist piece but my appraiser,Shep Paine (who's work I highly admire) convinced me to do more landscaping,vehicles, figures etc.. to raise its value for the appraisal.He of course was right because it was going to a museum and it gives the viewer(especially the kids) much more to look at.I took a lot of pics before doing this so I still have it as it was originally meant to be.I had titled it "The Road Not Taken" The fork in the road represents a choice that he made while still a civilian,one road leading to home and the other to destruction(the burned out car )and the war posters.It was Robert Frost's poem I had in mind at the time.I too had a choice to make and sometimes you will never really feel comfortable with either one.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 10:41 AM UTC

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I remeber this, it is sad, and wonderful. It has that peacefulness one rarely sees in a diaroma. It is on the sale scale of feeling as Norman Rockwell's "Homecoming." I will get a picture when I'm there.

Merry Christmas, to you and the guy in the diarama... His Mom will be surprised.

Captn Tommy


Actually it was Rockwell's painting that first inspired me to do this piece as a diorama.Merry Christmas to you too Tommy . The guy in the diorama , his Mom and I all want to thank you for adding your emotions to the storyline.
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