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1:16 Hasagawa Sopwith Camel.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:25 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:31 AM UTC
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 03:35 AM UTC
John,
This is just an amazing kit. The level of detail of every part is just fantastic.
Joel
This is just an amazing kit. The level of detail of every part is just fantastic.
Joel
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 03:44 AM UTC
and a lot of fun to build too,highly recommended.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 03:49 AM UTC
My Camel will have elements of all three of these paint schemes.
I like the gunmetal cowls on the first one,the wood paneling on the second and the German designs on the third.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 11:59 PM UTC
Removed by original poster on 01/19/14 - 13:20:16 (GMT).
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 01:20 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 01:23 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 01:35 AM UTC
Thank heavens that I decided to do this as a boxed diorama.Being able to eliminate what won't be seen in the finished diorama is a big saving of my time. I have to keep reminding myself all the time of what to leave in and what to leave out.Usually I take pics of the extreme viewing angles to decide.
I have so much modeling waiting in the wings to be finished.The Bleriot/Falcon sculpture,five old west movie set vignettes that are almost done ,among others.
I hope to have this one done for the museum prior to the commemoration of the start of WW1 ceremony (Man plans,God laughs)
I have so much modeling waiting in the wings to be finished.The Bleriot/Falcon sculpture,five old west movie set vignettes that are almost done ,among others.
I hope to have this one done for the museum prior to the commemoration of the start of WW1 ceremony
(Man plans,God laughs)Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 02:30 AM UTC
John, great progress.
Being a neophyte admirer, yet not a WW1 modeler (lack of skill for one thing), the wiring and plumbing continues to amaze me. Your choice to use not one but two different dia. wires certainly will add to the illusion of scale. Also the use of beading wire (which I've never used, but will shortly), really looks like scale cable of smaller stranded wires.
Honestly, what continues to puzzle me is the fact that your build thread has over 5,100 views on one of the most popular forums on Aeroscale,yet the only two people to seem to post on your progress is you and I. And like I said, I'm not a WWI modeler. I just don't understand how that can be.
Joel
Being a neophyte admirer, yet not a WW1 modeler (lack of skill for one thing), the wiring and plumbing continues to amaze me. Your choice to use not one but two different dia. wires certainly will add to the illusion of scale. Also the use of beading wire (which I've never used, but will shortly), really looks like scale cable of smaller stranded wires.
Honestly, what continues to puzzle me is the fact that your build thread has over 5,100 views on one of the most popular forums on Aeroscale,yet the only two people to seem to post on your progress is you and I. And like I said, I'm not a WWI modeler. I just don't understand how that can be.
Joel
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 03:46 AM UTC
Quoted Text
John, great progress.
Being a neophyte admirer, yet not a WW1 modeler (lack of skill for one thing), the wiring and plumbing continues to amaze me. Your choice to use not one but two different dia. wires certainly will add to the illusion of scale. Also the use of beading wire (which I've never used, but will shortly), really looks like scale cable of smaller stranded wires.
Honestly, what continues to puzzle me is the fact that your build thread has over 5,100 views on one of the most popular forums on Aeroscale,yet the only two people to seem to post on your progress is you and I. And like I said, I'm not a WW1 modeler. I just don't understand how that can be.
Joel
Hi Joel ! I do this stuff strictly for the fun of it,always have and always will.When it stops being fun,I'll quit.I love teaching and sharing my work with others.
I have been very successful with what I do and I am really proud of the fact that it was all done after the age of 60 when a lot of my peers think its all over for them.Luck and good health have had a lot to do with it too.
A while back I was forced into a position where I had to stand up for myself and my beliefs publicly on another now redundant WW1 forum called "The Aerodrome".I was against blatant advertising and made my feelings known,a small clique of vested interests took exception to my stand on this, with the end result being no more forum.
Thanks for asking,now you know not all WWI forums are friendly places.Cheers! John.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 12:08 PM UTC
JackFlash
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 01:19 PM UTC
Greetings Joel,
You will find some people are just observers and are too shy to speak up. They don't want to be criticized for asking "the wrong questions". Aeroscale has a policy that they want people to feel free to learn or to meet any subject on their own terms. When someone is knowledgeable on a subject most observers want to let that person pass on information unimpeded. Participation is always welcome, but courtesy asks we give each other room to display our works. The amount of hits shows that a subject is getting attention. So to you and everyone here, enjoy and thank you to all members who participate. We even have non-members offering Feature articles that are mind blowing.
Model on!
You will find some people are just observers and are too shy to speak up. They don't want to be criticized for asking "the wrong questions". Aeroscale has a policy that they want people to feel free to learn or to meet any subject on their own terms. When someone is knowledgeable on a subject most observers want to let that person pass on information unimpeded. Participation is always welcome, but courtesy asks we give each other room to display our works. The amount of hits shows that a subject is getting attention. So to you and everyone here, enjoy and thank you to all members who participate. We even have non-members offering Feature articles that are mind blowing.
Model on!dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2014 - 10:36 PM UTC
This is a great kit,right up there on a par with Wnw in my opinion.The level of quality is consistent throughout right down to the smallest detail.I only wish that I could give it the time that it deserves to do it right with all the bells and whistles and a great paint job.
JPTRR
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 - 04:34 PM UTC
John,
Your work continues to captivate! I can't wait to see the markings and insignias go on!
Your work continues to captivate! I can't wait to see the markings and insignias go on!
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 08:07 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 08:08 AM UTC
Quoted Text
John,
Your work continues to captivate! I can't wait to see the markings and insignias go on!
Hi ! You read my mind.
CaptnTommy
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:05 AM UTC
Dolly15:
I had to laugh looking at Warreni's beautiful photos from Far Far Away, that the E-III's wood ribs looked amazingly like your Sopwith's plastic ribs. Amazing how well they duplicatied your look... or was it the other way?
Outstanding on both
Captn Tommy
I had to laugh looking at Warreni's beautiful photos from Far Far Away, that the E-III's wood ribs looked amazingly like your Sopwith's plastic ribs. Amazing how well they duplicatied your look... or was it the other way?
Outstanding on both
Captn Tommy
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:48 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Dolly15:
I had to laugh looking at Warreni's beautiful photos from Far Far Away, that the E-III's wood ribs looked amazingly like your Sopwith's plastic ribs. Amazing how well they duplicatied your look... or was it the other way?
Outstanding on both
Captn Tommy
Actually as you know there is usually very little visible grain in wood used for aircraft.Hasakawa got the color of the plastic about right for most of the aircraft type woods, so it was only a matter of dealing with the shine ,which I sanded off.The sanded surface should allow for easy weathering.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 - 09:58 AM UTC
Well it is back to the Fokker for awhile which will free up the "stand in "Camel wings which are on the Fokker now.Finishing the Camel looks like a quick process from what I can see now.
dolly15
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2014 - 12:58 AM UTC
Removed by original poster on 01/24/14 - 12:16:52 (GMT).
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2014 - 12:18 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2014 - 12:43 AM UTC
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