Mal,
Thanks, but most of the credit goes to you for making the resurrection possible, both with the masks, and keeping me on track.
Joel
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Eduard 1/48 Limited Edition Spitfire Mk.IX
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 04:43 PM UTC
WoodshedWings
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 05:02 PM UTC
Hey Joel,
the Spitfire is looking great. Bet you,re glad you didn't ditch it. I'm inspired to build mine now. After the P-51 that is
. I have also started the Revell 1/32 mark 2 which I'm hoping will be more 
than 
the Spitfire is looking great. Bet you,re glad you didn't ditch it. I'm inspired to build mine now. After the P-51 that is
. I have also started the Revell 1/32 mark 2 which I'm hoping will be more than Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 05:44 PM UTC
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Hey Joel,
the Spitfire is looking great. Bet you,re glad you didn't ditch it. I'm inspired to build mine now. After the P-51 that is
Mike,
Thanks. This is actually my 1st every resurrection from the "Self of Doom". So this build has become kind of special for me in a few ways.
From what I've read and heard about the Revell 1/32 Spitfire, you're in for a treat. Looking forward to following that build. Of course, 1st the P-51D needs to cross the finish line.
Joel
WoodshedWings
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2015 - 05:57 PM UTC
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From what I've read and heard about the Revell 1/32 Spitfire, you're in for a treat. Looking forward to following that build. Of course, 1st the P-51D needs to cross the finish line.
Joel
It's limping there slowly,
Mike.
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 04:33 AM UTC
Well, it's hard to believe, but I've finally finished the Spitfire Mk.IXc. Yep, I've actually crossed the finish line. And all it took was not one but two complete paint schemes, with a full stripping in between them. There was a time when I thought that the Spit was headed for my shelf of Doom, but it wasn't to be.
Actually, the Spitfire technically isn't quite complete. I somehow managed to knock off the gun sight when I was masking the cockpit. I found it on the seat when I removed the masking. Try as I might, I can't get it back into the correct position until I get a longer, thinner, and curved pair of Tweezers that I'll be ordering from Sprue Brothers shortly.
I've also decided to apply the bare minimum amount of weathering, which is exactly the opposite of my original plan. The Spit, just looks better this way.
To all of you who've stayed the course, thanks, and I hope it was an enjoyable build for all of you.
Joel
Actually, the Spitfire technically isn't quite complete. I somehow managed to knock off the gun sight when I was masking the cockpit. I found it on the seat when I removed the masking. Try as I might, I can't get it back into the correct position until I get a longer, thinner, and curved pair of Tweezers that I'll be ordering from Sprue Brothers shortly.
I've also decided to apply the bare minimum amount of weathering, which is exactly the opposite of my original plan. The Spit, just looks better this way.
To all of you who've stayed the course, thanks, and I hope it was an enjoyable build for all of you.
Joel
Redhand
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 04:49 AM UTC
Looks really good: know that "long tweezers" feeling.
Does this A/C have antenna wire?
Does this A/C have antenna wire?
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 05:18 AM UTC
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Looks really good: know that "long tweezers" feeling.
Does this A/C have antenna wire?
Brian,
I haven't looked as yet for the exact pair of tweezers, but nothing I have comes close to letting me set the gun site back into position.
Every picture I have of a Spit Mk.IX either real or model doesn't have any antenna wires. I asked my brother about it as he knows a lot more about aircraft then I will ever know, and he said that there wasn't any. I'm sure that if there should be one that Mal, Edgar, Rowan, or one of the members with that information will let me know. It's easy enough to add one from Stretched sprue.
Joel
Holdfast
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 11:23 AM UTC
Looking good Joel 
No antenna or IFF wires, the radio fit and IFF fit had changed by this Mk and the wires wern't neccessary.Check out the antenna, there are the brackets for the wire pully, which is correct, but no pully
No antenna or IFF wires, the radio fit and IFF fit had changed by this Mk and the wires wern't neccessary.Check out the antenna, there are the brackets for the wire pully, which is correct, but no pully
EdgarBrooks
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 11:36 AM UTC
The Mk.II I.F.F. (two wires to the tailplane tips) was replaced by the Mk.III (aerofoil-section pole antenna about 18" long, under the starboard wing) from 5-3-43 (the RAF date it as 18-1-43.)
Aerial wires to the rudder top were beginning to go in 1940, and were extremely rare (possibly only in Russia) by 1943; certainly they weren't seen in Europe, since VHF radios ruled.
Edgar
Aerial wires to the rudder top were beginning to go in 1940, and were extremely rare (possibly only in Russia) by 1943; certainly they weren't seen in Europe, since VHF radios ruled.
Edgar
magnusf
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 12:10 PM UTC
Joel! I'm as happy as you are ! Well done and a good looking Spit!
Magnus
! Well done and a good looking Spit! Magnus
Antoni
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 02:14 PM UTC
EN133 is famous for being shot down on 14/3/43 and so almost certainly had IFF wires.
Redhand
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 04:56 PM UTC
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EN133 is famous for being shot down on 14/3/43 and so almost certainly had IFF wires.
Not that I doubt you, but why was the shootdown of this A/C on this date noteworthy?
I am certainly surprised by how complex a question antenna wires on Spits is, BTW!
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 05:13 PM UTC
Nice job on the spitfire Joel
Terri
Terri
Redhand
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Here's another picture of the subject, BTW.
Antoni
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 06:58 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextEN133 is famous for being shot down on 14/3/43 and so almost certainly had IFF wires.
Not that I doubt you, but why was the shootdown of this A/C on this date noteworthy?
I am certainly surprised by how complex a question antenna wires on Spits is, BTW!
Because of the death of W/Cdr J H Slater.
http://www.leatherheadlocalhistory.org.uk/Ashtead-War-Memorials/AshteadWM-SlaterJH-story.htm
It is also associated with Franz Ferdinand Colloredo-Mansfeld, an Austrian who joined tyhe RAF
http://www.vord.net/609/pilots.htm
Redhand
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Because of the death of W/Cdr J H Slater.
I did some internet research on the man and found a group picture of him from which I cropped this image.
It's always rather sobering when the A/C one is modeling was the place of death of its occupant. But I for one can't "do" the hobby without the history.
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 08:10 PM UTC
Mal & Edgar, thanks so much for that information. I was right only because I followed the crowd, my brother was right because he knew of the advances in both types of Radio transmission and reception.
Mal,Magnus & Terri, thanks for appreciating my efforts in getting this build back from the Shelf of Doom, and across the finish line.
Mal, at this point I'm just about ready to purchase Eduard's Mk.VIII, and their new Mk. XVI when it's released. The kit has to be one of the top 5 models I've ever built.
Joel
Mal,Magnus & Terri, thanks for appreciating my efforts in getting this build back from the Shelf of Doom, and across the finish line.
Mal, at this point I'm just about ready to purchase Eduard's Mk.VIII, and their new Mk. XVI when it's released. The kit has to be one of the top 5 models I've ever built.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 08:43 PM UTC
Joel you did a beautiful job on this model!!
I am glad you stuck with it and redid the camo. It turned out really well!
BTW if you do not mind a 7mm too long wingspan and 3mm off in the fuselage length, try Eduards 109G it also is a very good kit .. or wait until fall for the resurrection
all the best
Steffen
I am glad you stuck with it and redid the camo. It turned out really well!
BTW if you do not mind a 7mm too long wingspan and 3mm off in the fuselage length, try Eduards 109G it also is a very good kit .. or wait until fall for the resurrection
all the best
Steffen
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 09:11 PM UTC
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Joel you did a beautiful job on this model!!
I am glad you stuck with it and redid the camo. It turned out really well!
BTW if you do not mind a 7mm too long wingspan and 3mm off in the fuselage length, try Eduards 109G it also is a very good kit .. or wait until fall for the resurrection
all the best
Steffen
Steffen,
Thank you for you encouragement throughout the build. If nothing else, it proves that sometimes a step backwards is what's needed to make the next two steps forward. If it wasn't for you guys, I just might have accepted the Spitfire the way it was. I'm glad you guys didn't let me take the easy way out.
I've never built a German aircraft before, so I will eventually do the updated Eduard 109G.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 09:21 PM UTC
She came out looking fabulous in the end Joel, glad to see you stuck with it. I love the camo and demarcation, it looks great and shows a light touch with the airbrush. I know it took you a lot of work to fix but you have to be happy with that result.
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 09:27 PM UTC
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She came out looking fabulous in the end Joel, glad to see you stuck with it. I love the camo and demarcation, it looks great and shows a light touch with the airbrush. I know it took you a lot of work to fix but you have to be happy with that result.
Paul,
Thanks so much for stopping by and appreciating my efforts. I'm really glad I stuck with it, as now I have one Spitfire in my display cabinet, but it won't be the last.
I sold the Eclipse and bought the Iwata M-1 internal, single action air brush. For me it's the right move. It's the perfect AB for me with the way I prefer to paint.
Joel
Merlin
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 11:56 PM UTC
Nice one Joel! 
Great job pulling it back from the brink! I know this poor Spit stared into deep into the mouth of the bin, but the result is a credit to your skill and determination.
I'll remember this build the next time I think one of my own has passed the "beyond hope" point.
All the best
Rowan
Great job pulling it back from the brink! I know this poor Spit stared into deep into the mouth of the bin, but the result is a credit to your skill and determination.
I'll remember this build the next time I think one of my own has passed the "beyond hope" point.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 11:56 PM UTC
Yep, as I said before - a pretty baby. Well done, Joel! And it wasn't for us, it was just for you. But I see, that you're happy with the result, and that's all that counts.
I also go with Brian, the story behind an aircraft or especially the pilot and all the research about, is what makes this hobby even more interesting for me than it already is. I guess, we all enjoy one of the greatest hobbies, guys!
Torsten
I also go with Brian, the story behind an aircraft or especially the pilot and all the research about, is what makes this hobby even more interesting for me than it already is. I guess, we all enjoy one of the greatest hobbies, guys!
Torsten
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2015 - 12:39 AM UTC
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Nice one Joel!
Great job pulling it back from the brink! I know this poor Spit stared into deep into the mouth of the bin, but the result is a credit to your skill and determination.
I'll remember this build the next time I think one of my own has passed the "beyond hope" point.
All the best
Rowan
Rowan,
Thanks for those more then kind words. But I never knew that you ever had a build go "beyond the Hope" point.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2015 - 12:43 AM UTC
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Yep, as I said before - a pretty baby. Well done, Joel! And it wasn't for us, it was just for you. But I see, that you're happy with the result, and that's all that counts.
I also go with Brian, the story behind an aircraft or especially the pilot and all the research about, is what makes this hobby even more interesting for me than it already is. I guess, we all enjoy one of the greatest hobbies, guys!
Torsten
Torsten,
Glad you stopped by, and I'm equally glad that you liked the final results.
You'll notice that I cut the weathering way back, not just because it struck me right out of the blue, but because of your philosophy as it just seamed to be perfectly suited to the Spit build. Of course I still weathered it some, but no where near I usually do.
As for Brian's comments, how true they are. I've noticed that I now spend more and more time researching the aircraft mark then I ever did before. Guess you can say that you guys are having a most positive influence on me.
Joel
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