Hi Tony

Is that Haile Selassie inspecting the a/c?

All the best

Rowan

That is indeed Haile Selassie, maaan. And they belong to his airforce.

I'm not sure though, how much of a clue that might be.

Hi
They look like North American Texans or Harvards, but not sure with the scoop on top of the engine cowling.

Most likely wrong.

Peter

'Fraid so, Peter. Engines are from the same shed though. The Harvard has a Wasp, while this one has a Twin Wasp. It's a rather large aircraft for being single engined.

Oh, by the way. The engines were made under licence

And Peter - Just love your 46-page!

Hi Tony
glad you like the 46 stuff.

Pratt and Whitney twin wasp, possibly made under license?

I think it might be the SAAB 17.

The oddity? Er...undercarriage doors like metal trouser legs?

Cheers
Peter

Knowing you tony is a swedish connection. The ethopian air force was trained with the help of sweden both in men and material, Carl Gustaf von Rosen became head of the Ethiopian air force. So I would guess this a saab 17.

THAT'S a cigar. A SAAB B 17 it is. The picture with Haile Selassie was taken at delivery of 46 planes to Ethiopia in 1947-53. Roughly at the same time we also shipped Mustangs to Israel, The Dominican republic and Nicaragua.



The odd bit regards the landing gear shrouds. These were made to act as dive brakes, because this beast was a divebomber. It was considered easier than perforated flap-brakes or the Stuka-type.



Rather ugly legs, huh?



They don't dive that steep with the "Blue Johan" nowadays, but a little bit is always a crowdpuller. She growled nicely over Gothenburg last weekend though.

So now it's your turn Peter. Can we see a luft-64 perhaps?

Thanks Tony.

Luftwaffe'46 question coming up.
(Or could this be the death of this thread....no ...no don't all run away.)
I'm at work at the moment so it will have to wait for when I get home...so take a tea break. Back soon)

Cheers
Peter

What is this?

Maybe not quite luftwaffe 46 but close.

Cheers
Peter

That would have to be the Japanese Kikka. patterened off the Me-262, but the parts and molds were sunk on the way to Japan

Hi Mathew.

Bingo. Correct.
Nakajima J9Y Kikka.

Well done. Didn't take long .

Cheers
Peter

Let's try this one again, name the plane...

Hi Mathew.
Looks like something from the Miles stable.
Probably wrong. I was lucky with Tony's SAAB but not sure about this one.

Cheers
Peter

It's not a Miles. Similar design, but not from the UK.

My guess would be a P-1 Sparmann. Built in Sweden by a german designer/manufacturer.

(The red houses in the background, with the white corners and window frames gives it away.)

Tony, you got that one. It does seem like a Miles design, but it was Swedish. Over to you for the next question...

Wow! Two in a row. Why couldn't Jeopardy have these important topics around.

Anyway. Next question from me has only a slight swedish connection. During WW 2 SAAB designed the J 21 pushprop fighter that you can see here and propelled it by a DB 605 V-12. Later on it was fitted with a deHavilland Goblin jet engine like this and built as an attack aircraft. Only one other propellerfighter has been converted to jetpropulsion and taken in regular service. Which?

Hi Tony,

I reckon that'd be the Yak 3 – Yak 15/17 series, wouldn't it?

Graeme.

Right you are, Graeme.

You might wonder though, what reduction in range such an engine swap would do, given the fuelcapacity of an existing airframe.

Over to you!
Tony.

Thanks, Tony.

Any idea what this is?

Graeme.

Hi Graeme

It's a one of the Monospar family, isn't it?

All the best

Rowan

looks like a Gal st-12. Gypsy powered version