The wire is just plain Brass wire that I picked up at a art supply store.
That is interesting, it looks nicely dulled. The brass wire I have found is very bright. Did you do anything to tone it down or is it just tarnished from years of storage?
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1/48 Academy B-25B Mitchell
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 03:47 AM UTC
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 08:04 PM UTC
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The wire is just plain Brass wire that I picked up at a art supply store.
That is interesting, it looks nicely dulled. The brass wire I have found is very bright. Did you do anything to tone it down or is it just tarnished from years of storage?
Karl,
I hand brush on a coat of Winsor & Newton Matt acrylic Medium.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 08:06 PM UTC
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Very nice engine detailing, Joel. Watching and learning. Thanks!
Cheers!
Gabriel
Gabriel,
Thanks so much for your most positive comment.
Joel
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Posted: Saturday, April 23, 2016 - 08:07 PM UTC
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Joel,
Nice work on that engine! The wires may be tedious, but they make a huge difference.
Gaz
Gary,
Tedious for sure. Just one more to go. but you made it through 4 of them. The crew at Aeroscale should give you a metal for that accomplishment.
Joel
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, April 24, 2016 - 02:49 AM UTC
Heh! Joel, thank you for the recommendation. I had some advantages you didn't. Your engines are 3d. Mine were 2d with a large backing plate I could drill into with little risk of slipping.
Having four of them allowed me to do it in production line style. I also have a screw gun that will work at very low speeds.
Gaz
Having four of them allowed me to do it in production line style. I also have a screw gun that will work at very low speeds.
Gaz
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, April 25, 2016 - 08:41 PM UTC
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Heh! Joel, thank you for the recommendation. I had some advantages you didn't. Your engines are 3d. Mine were 2d with a large backing plate I could drill into with little risk of slipping.
Having four of them allowed me to do it in production line style. I also have a screw gun that will work at very low speeds.
Gaz
Gary,
I could have used a mini assembly line of 2, but my usual practice is to finish one after working out all the kinks and issues, then start the other engine. That way, the vast majority of time, the 2nd engine is completed in half the time, and usually turns out slightly better.
Joel
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Posted: Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:00 PM UTC
Well, with very limited modeling time these days due to family health issues, I finally managed to finish both of the big P&W R-2600-P engines.
As Brian pointed out, there is an issue with the engine opening in the cowls. I originally opened them up some, but not enough. checking my usual modeling sources, the coconscious of opinion from the more knowledgeable WW11 builders/historians,the opening in 1/48 scale should be 3/4 of an inch. So working with various dia metal and wood dowels wrapped with #320 emery cloth, I eventually increased each opening to that I.D. measurement.
Here's a picture of the before with a slight adjustment on the right, and the correct I.D. on the left.
Next up was to just glue both engines to their respective nacelles.
Then the cowls were glued on using CCA gel glue as the joint is basically a butt joint with a tab on the bottom.
As you can see, the front strut is taped to my Tamiya mat as I still need to work on the base. Ok, start the base would be more like it.
Joel
As Brian pointed out, there is an issue with the engine opening in the cowls. I originally opened them up some, but not enough. checking my usual modeling sources, the coconscious of opinion from the more knowledgeable WW11 builders/historians,the opening in 1/48 scale should be 3/4 of an inch. So working with various dia metal and wood dowels wrapped with #320 emery cloth, I eventually increased each opening to that I.D. measurement.
Here's a picture of the before with a slight adjustment on the right, and the correct I.D. on the left.
Next up was to just glue both engines to their respective nacelles.
Then the cowls were glued on using CCA gel glue as the joint is basically a butt joint with a tab on the bottom.
As you can see, the front strut is taped to my Tamiya mat as I still need to work on the base. Ok, start the base would be more like it.
Joel
GazzaS
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Posted: Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:07 PM UTC
Wow, Joel! Stunning looking bird. You've really nailed that faded and dusty look.
Gaz
Gaz
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Posted: Monday, May 09, 2016 - 11:22 PM UTC
Joel, beautiful work on modelling and painting! Very well done job unless your private affairs (hope they will go better soon)
Looking foreward to see it on wheels...
Thomas
Looking foreward to see it on wheels...
Thomas
KelticKnot
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 02:28 AM UTC
The bigger opening in the cowling helps showcase the engines themselves. A very worthwhile improvement to the accuracy of the model. Looks great 😃
AussieReg
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 02:51 AM UTC
Looking great Joel. As Gazza said, you have nailed the weathered look. Spot on! The extra bit of work on the radials and the cowls was definitely worth it as well.
Cheers, D
Cheers, D
Kilo_Uniform
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 10:24 AM UTC
Hi Joel,
Hope the family health issues improve soon.
Your B-25 is looking awesome!!
Opening the engine cowls allows you to display more of the excellent work you did on the engines.
I agree with the guys re your faded look - spot on!
Keep up the good work and looking forward to the next update.
Regards,
Kobus
Hope the family health issues improve soon.
Your B-25 is looking awesome!!
Opening the engine cowls allows you to display more of the excellent work you did on the engines.
I agree with the guys re your faded look - spot on!
Keep up the good work and looking forward to the next update.
Regards,
Kobus
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 04:49 PM UTC
Beautiful work Joel.
Best wishes to all your family for speedy recoveries.
Best wishes to all your family for speedy recoveries.
Joel_W
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 09:09 PM UTC
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Wow, Joel! Stunning looking bird. You've really nailed that faded and dusty look.
Gaz
Gary,
Thanks for the positive feed back. I kind of surprised myself with how well the weathering process turned out.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 09:24 PM UTC
Thomas, Paul, Damian, Kobus, & Russel,
Thanks to each of you for taking the time to not only look at the latest update, but post those most positive of comments. They really mean quite a lot to me.
The overall paint weathering process came out better then I thought it would, and does have the look and feel of what I've seen in pictures of the real B's on the flight deck of the USS Hornet.
the extra work on the engine wiring certainly does add a great deal to the overall look, and now that it's completed, I'm glade that I took Gary's led and went that route. And the opening up of the cowls allows just that much more of the engines to be seen.
I'm in the home stretch now, and finally I'll be crossing the finish line about 6 months from the start date. Honestly, I'm looking forward to starting a much simpler display model: the Academy 1/72 scale F4-B. I've already built the 1/48 kit, so it's going to be an interesting build and comparison.
I certainly want to thank all of you who've expressed their wishes for my wife's speedy recovery. There's a long road ahead of us, and I'm confident that she'll cross that finish line too.
Joel
Thanks to each of you for taking the time to not only look at the latest update, but post those most positive of comments. They really mean quite a lot to me.
The overall paint weathering process came out better then I thought it would, and does have the look and feel of what I've seen in pictures of the real B's on the flight deck of the USS Hornet.
the extra work on the engine wiring certainly does add a great deal to the overall look, and now that it's completed, I'm glade that I took Gary's led and went that route. And the opening up of the cowls allows just that much more of the engines to be seen.
I'm in the home stretch now, and finally I'll be crossing the finish line about 6 months from the start date. Honestly, I'm looking forward to starting a much simpler display model: the Academy 1/72 scale F4-B. I've already built the 1/48 kit, so it's going to be an interesting build and comparison.
I certainly want to thank all of you who've expressed their wishes for my wife's speedy recovery. There's a long road ahead of us, and I'm confident that she'll cross that finish line too.
Joel
Szmann
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 10:37 PM UTC
Joel, very good finishing job whoch I'll try to emulate on my ongoing build.
I sincerely hope all the best regarding the wife's health issues.
Warm regards,
Gabriel
I sincerely hope all the best regarding the wife's health issues.
Warm regards,
Gabriel
BlackWidow
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 - 11:13 PM UTC
Joel, somehow I must have missed the progress on your build. That Mitchell looks fantastic. Well done! So I can see the silver lining at the horizon. What is the paint you used for OD? Or is it a mixture?
Torsten
Torsten
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 12:13 AM UTC
Hi Joel
I echo all the best wishes for your wife.
Great job on the cowls - it's crazy that the kit has taken a bashing over the years from some quarters when such a simple fix is so effective.
All the best
Rowan
I echo all the best wishes for your wife.
Great job on the cowls - it's crazy that the kit has taken a bashing over the years from some quarters when such a simple fix is so effective.
All the best
Rowan
matrixone
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 12:41 AM UTC
That's looking really good Joel!
I like models of warplanes with some weathering on them, it helps keep the model from looking like a mass produced collectors item.
Matrixone
I like models of warplanes with some weathering on them, it helps keep the model from looking like a mass produced collectors item.
Matrixone
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:42 PM UTC
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Joel, very good finishing job whoch I'll try to emulate on my ongoing build.
I sincerely hope all the best regarding the wife's health issues.
Warm regards,
Gabriel
Gabriel,
thanks so much for those most kind words. the weathering is really quite easy to duplicate. Just use an overall base color coat, then a lighter shade or two for the blotchy effect. Try to study a few pictures of the aircraft you're modeling, and use it as a guide.
thanks so much for the well wishes, it's much appreciated.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:46 PM UTC
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Joel, somehow I must have missed the progress on your build. That Mitchell looks fantastic. Well done! So I can see the silver lining at the horizon. What is the paint you used for OD? Or is it a mixture?
Torsten
Torsten,
I'm so glad that you stopped by, and checked out my current build.
I used Life color paints for the O.D. Actually, Life Color has 3 different shades of O.D. I just use two of them:
Olive Drab 41 UA 005 FS 34088, & Olive Drab 41 weathered UA003 FS 34088.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:49 PM UTC
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Hi Joel
I echo all the best wishes for your wife.
Great job on the cowls - it's crazy that the kit has taken a bashing over the years from some quarters when such a simple fix is so effective.
All the best
Rowan
Rowan,
thank you for those well wishes for my wife, she can use all of them she can get.
Agreed on the needless fuss over the cowl issue from almost day 1 of the kits release. took like 10 min for the correction. I have no idea why anyone would spend $25 or so for resin ones, as the prep work would take 10 times as long.
Joel
Joel_W
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - 10:52 PM UTC
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That's looking really good Joel!
I like models of warplanes with some weathering on them, it helps keep the model from looking like a mass produced collectors item.
Matrixone
Les,
Always a pleasure to have you stop by, and checkout one of my builds. Like you, realistic operational weathering just creates the effect of the type of miniature that I'm trying to duplicate.
Joel
Naseby
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Posted: Sunday, May 15, 2016 - 11:26 PM UTC
What a project Joel! The colour shades chosen are great. Love it. You Sir have finally broken my will to resist the B-25. I will have to go and pick up this kit. Great work.
kahunaminor
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 05:36 AM UTC
Hi Joel,
Had some spare time so I sat and read all the way through. Nice work on a not so easy kit.
Regards,
Had some spare time so I sat and read all the way through. Nice work on a not so easy kit.
Regards,
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