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Aircraft Jeopardy Trivia nr. 6
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 02:15 AM UTC

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It doesn't look like the standard MiG 23 cockpit.




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How about a Mig-15 or one of the export variants?



It's something in between!

Jean-Luc



Hi Jean-Luc

I think we need to be put out of our misery! :-) Following your not so subtle hint, I'm guessing an updated MiG 21 of some description. The windscreen's all wrong, but this really isn't my field!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 10:19 AM UTC
Hi Rowan!

I think you found the right answer! Take a look here !
Since Gábor's last visit to Armorama was on June 14th we shouldn't wait for confirmation from him. So it's your turn again!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 10:24 AM UTC
Hi everybody,

sorry for the waiting,
I was out for some holiday in a totally IT-free zone.

Mmh, yes it is (sort of) Soviet technology.
No, it is no MiG-23, and no MiG-15.

This turn took a bit long (my fault), so if there is no correct reply today, I will tell the answer.
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 10:27 AM UTC
Ah yes, I have just noticed Rowan had the right answer. It is a MiG-21 2000, that is a Romanian/Israeli upgrade of the MiG-21MF and Bis. Nowadays these upgraded MiGs have a strong tendency to crash.

So it is your turn! Some British jet, perhaps... ?
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 11:12 AM UTC
Cheers Gábor

I'm not sure how much I guessed right - I'd assumed it must be a modern Russian upgrade. Perhaps that's why all my theories about cockpit colour were no help whatsoever! :-)

For a complete change of subject, have a go at identifying this. It should be straightforward, so there's a bonus brownie point if you can name the aircraft too:



All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 06:04 PM UTC
Hi Rowan,

Is it the underbelly rack and external fuel tank fitted to a Me109E?
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 12:43 AM UTC
Hi Rowan,

I reckon it's 'Black 6', 109 G-2 at the RAF museum. *Sigh*..If only she was still flying......

Harri
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 01:29 AM UTC
Hi there

I think I have to give it to Martin for identifying the object as per the question - but Harri get's the bonus brownie point for spotting that the aircraft is indeed "Black 6".



Over to you Martin

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:57 PM UTC
In 1938 the commander of 111 squadron RAF was J W Gillan. What did he do to earn the nickname "Downwind" Gillan?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 01:15 AM UTC
Hi Martin

From what I can remember, Gillan made a record-breaking flight from Edinburgh to Northolt in a Hurricane, the flight being called a 'downwind' flight? (Much clutching at straws here!) :-)

Harri
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Posted: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 08:53 AM UTC
That's right Harri, he set a speed record of over 400 mph and the newspapers heralded Britain's "First 400 mph Fighter". The fact there was a 50-60mph tailwind was not publicised although the pilot was given the nickname "Downwind" Gillam by his contempories.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:23 AM UTC
Right then,

Who can name this little beauty?



Harri
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:09 PM UTC
Is it an Irbitis I-16? Without the cover of the landing gear. It was a Lithuanian-built trainer/sports airplane.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:41 PM UTC
Hi all!

According to my refs it's a Mikoyan-Gurevitch I-250 (N-1).

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:49 PM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc

I think you're right - it's otherwise known as the MiG-13, a mixed-propulsion fighter.

The Irbitis I-16 looks interesting - it'd make a neat little kit!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:26 AM UTC
Well done Jean-Luc,

You're absolutely right and Rowan gets the brownie point this time because yes, it was also known as the Mig 13.

Over to you....

Harri
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Posted: Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 11:28 AM UTC
The MiG does not look bad either. Is there a kit of it?
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Posted: Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 03:02 AM UTC
Hi all!

Sorry for the delay!

Here's another Frankenstein question.



Give me the names of the four aircraft that gave parts to constitute this new "plane"...

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 03:29 AM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc

I'm sure you've picked that port wing to tease me! It looks suspiciously like the subject of one of my favourite kits... an FM special! :-) :-)

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 09:04 PM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc

Just to knock this one back into play... I'm pretty sure I've got the wings and tail sussed, but you've left me guessing about the fuselage!

I'll go for:

Left wing - Breguet 690
Right wing - Bloch 210
Tail - Bloch 174

All decidedly French - which makes me think the fuselage must come from a French aircraft too. The nearest I've found in my refs is the Amiot 143 - but that doesn't seem to be quite right...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, July 03, 2006 - 01:14 AM UTC

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Left wing - Breguet 690
Right wing - Bloch 210
Tail - Bloch 174

All decidedly French - which makes me think the fuselage must come from a French aircraft too. The nearest I've found in my refs is the Amiot 143



Hi Rowan!

It's a perfect answer!

The fact that the planes are all French has nothing to do with the recent results of the World Cup! :-)

Over to you Rowan!

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Monday, July 03, 2006 - 01:21 AM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc

Really? The Amiot is correct too? :-) :-) I've spent two days looking at every French bomber I've NEVER heard of!

Of course - my first thought was that it wasn't a composite at all! It's so ugly, it could be a REAL French bomber from the run-up to WW2!

Hmmm - I'm wrong-footed now... I'll have to find a question!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, July 03, 2006 - 03:08 AM UTC
Hi again

One to see who's been paying attention to our walkarounds! On what aircraft would you find these distinctive aerodynamic fairings?



All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, July 03, 2006 - 11:09 PM UTC
:-) :-) :-) I know, I know but it would be unfair of me to answer.
:-X
After our discovery and discussion of those fairing, I've been keeping my eye out for them. None of the three at PoF have them
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Posted: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 02:57 AM UTC
Spitfire VB. The first clue was the colour, British Sky :-) .
Andy