"Down Low" - WW2 tank busting Official Thread
spongya
Associate EditorBudapest, Hungary
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Posted: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 07:25 AM UTC
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I was just interested in how all of you are coming along
Hi Patrick!
Here's the current status of my Mustang...
It won't be long until it gets it's bombs and rockets under the wings! 
Jean-Luc 
Outstanding
May I ask you how you weathered it?
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:21 AM UTC
Great selection of tank busters folks! Jean-Luc.... superb model,... you should e-mail some photos to that reviewer that threatened to throw his Dragon P-51 model in the garbage after opening the box and seeing the contents. I'll be building the AM IL2m, should be starting this weekend.
Frank
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Posted: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 01:45 PM UTC
Great to hear that so many builds are moving along.
Wow, that build is coming along quickly, Jean-Luc! Very nice so far!
I have not even started yet on my entry.
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 07:39 PM UTC
Hey fellas,
I got my photoetch in the mail yesterday for the Yak, so just a few quick questions.
I cleaned the parts with some denatured alcohol, and I'm ready to paint them up. Is it generally wise to paint the parts and then fold them or vise versa. The cockpit tub is one large piece of photo etch, but the side wall tubing must be folded to fit the walls of the fuselage, so I wasn't sure if it's wise to paint and then fold them up, because I don't want to pull paint off.
Also, in your opinions, which works better on etch, superglue or white glue?
And for those of you who are Soviet enthusiasts, would painting the cockpit of a Yak-9 MM Russian Topside Blue be accurate enough to the Industrial Metal Primer used on some of the late VVS fighters?
Thanks for the help guys. Newbs like me really appreciate the help, so I thanks again.
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 08:44 PM UTC
Hi Mark,
Like you I'm new to the photo-etch thing. Having just finished my first use of it on a Kawanishi George. I found white glue to be very forgiving and it seems to have held the parts well even after finishing painting and construction of the plane. I also played with the good 'ol Testors tube glue. That worked well too, but the little stringers it leaves behind required clean up. I'm not real fond of super glue, I still work to slow and many of my parts need to be repositioned some times. Below is a link to a cool site for paint colors. It has been posted on Aeroscale before and it is worthy of another look.
-Derek
http://ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_soviet.htm They too will be ground up to lubricate the gears of progress.
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 10:54 PM UTC
I have never tried white glue and always use super glue. However, white glue might be fine even though I am a little worried about the lasting adherence.
I always bend and glue my PE parts first and then paint them afterwards. However, I guess it is what you find most practical.
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 11:54 PM UTC
I usually fold and glue , then paint. There's less of a chance of the paint getting scatched off or cracking when you fold it...
just my 2 cents
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Posted: Friday, January 26, 2007 - 12:07 AM UTC
@ Mark
ditto to what Tigerbait and Jesper posted about bending then painting--the hard part is trying to figure out what to glue on the model before painting and what to paint prior to gluing.....GAAAH! You can get superglues that dont harden immediately--gives time to position--then spray with a kicker and it hardens pretty fast. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Friday, January 26, 2007 - 07:56 AM UTC
I use CA and white glue depending on where the part goes and how likely it is to be dislodged. An issue to consider is that CA doesn't stick to itself so if a part comes off, you have more effort to re-prep the part and surface if you used CA than if you used white glue (or Future, etc) ...
John
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Merlin
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 02:13 AM UTC
Hi all
Do have room for a late arrival?!
Eduard have very kindly sent this beauty for Review!:
It only arrived today, so I've spent a happy evening taking the sprue-shots and - you've guessed it! - I can't resist building it! :-) I know I vowed no campaigns for me this year, but what's a resolution if not for breaking! And it would be almost churlish not to do a Review-build of a kit that so obviously begs to be included in this Campaign! (Well - that's my excuse, anyway...
)
All the best
Rowan
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Germany
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 02:35 AM UTC
Hi Rowan
consider reading Brett Green's review for your build, as he also gives some hints for building ---- no offence intended maybe you kow better than he .. but just in case:
http://www.hyperscale.com/reviews/kits/eduard8165reviewbg_1.htmbest wishes
Steffen
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Merlin
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 02:40 AM UTC
Hi Steffen
I built the original AM kit a good many years ago... it's one of my all-time favourite kits.
Ahh... those were the days! Those of us who didn't ride horses rode penny-farthings! :-)
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:02 PM UTC
Wow! That would be really good to have that on the campaign. Please join us at the Eastern Front
I am looking forward to this one as the Il-2 is the icon of tank busting on the Russian side of the Eastern Front IMO.
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Merlin
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 01:17 PM UTC
Cheers Jesper
I'll have to put my foot down a bit to try and catch up a bit with some of the great builds already in this thread! Depending on work, I'll try to make a start later this week.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 11:00 PM UTC
@Merlin--I'm thinking Eduard Reps were reading our thread and saw that we needed more Soviet craft(especially stormoviks). So don't feel bad about breaking your rule--you cant take blame for outside influence.
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2007 - 11:33 PM UTC
Hi all!
Since Rowan is making a "start" for this Group Build, I thought it would be the right time to post pictures of my
finished entry!
By the way Rowan, end date of the Campaign is July 31, 2007 NOT July 31, 2008! :-)
My socks are safe! My socks are safe!
Jean-Luc
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Than think five minutes and build an hour!
Merlin
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 02:14 AM UTC
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Since Rowan is making a "start" for this Group Build, I thought it would be the right time to post pictures of my finished entry!
By the way Rowan, end date of the Campaign is July 31, 2007 NOT July 31, 2008!
My socks are safe! My socks are safe!
Jean-Luc
Great work on the finished Mustang, Jean-Luc!
But, be fair, you
did have almost a month's head start!
I should be OK for this July with the Shturmovik - and the rest of my list (and remember, I only have to build half of them!) is good until the end of the year! So - PLEASE! - just make sure you have a freshly washed pair of socks to post a picture of when I win the Challenge! (Or else we'll have to form a new site on the Kitmaker network - Stinkorama! :-) )
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 04:38 AM UTC
Hi Jean Luc:
Absolutely fantastic ! Great build, it looks like the real thing. Congratulations
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 04:05 PM UTC
@Jean-Luc: Wow, that is really great work!
Look out German panzers - incoming P-51 down low
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:09 PM UTC
Be-au-ti-fuul Mustang Jean-Luc!
That kind of shading/weathering will also be useful to cure a somewhat shady Mustang of mine.
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Posted: Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 06:56 PM UTC
By the way, Jean-Luc. Were the ID-light lenses included in the kit, or have you scratched them in some mysterious way?
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Posted: Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
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By the way, Jean-Luc. Were the ID-light lenses included in the kit, or have you scratched them in some mysterious way?
Hi Tony!
The ID-lights are included in the kit...
A full build review of the kit can be found
here.
By the way, you can win the 1/32 scale P-51 D kit from Dragon on Aeroscale! Take a look
here!
Jean-Luc
Better think one hour and build five minutes...
Than think five minutes and build an hour!
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 04:28 AM UTC
Could someone please let me know the best software for designing ribbons. I wanted to get a couple of designs drawn up for this campaign but would like to use the right software. Thanks for any info in this regard.
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 08:57 AM UTC
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Could someone please let me know the best software for designing ribbons. I wanted to get a couple of designs drawn up for this campaign but would like to use the right software. Thanks for any info in this regard.
Hi Patrick!
Any image/editing/drawing software will work. The "Rolls Royce" of picture editing programs is Photoshop though...
Jean-Luc
Better think one hour and build five minutes...
Than think five minutes and build an hour!
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Posted: Friday, February 02, 2007 - 02:01 PM UTC
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Could someone please let me know the best software for designing ribbons. I wanted to get a couple of designs drawn up for this campaign but would like to use the right software. Thanks for any info in this regard.
Great idea and initiative.
I think we can do it in Microsoft photodraw v2. That is where I made the banners for our profiles. Drop me an email if you have any good suggestions before we go "public" with any designs
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