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CMOT70
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Posted: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 04:41 AM UTC

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Interesting build, Andrew. Looks very yellow indeed.

Do you have pictures for this aircraft. Otherwise I think I can dig out some pictures somewhere.

Looking forward to see more



Actually i have at least one pic of this aircraft yes. Plus a few of the other aircraft from the same sqn. Thanks for the offer anyway Jesper!

Andrew
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 07:49 PM UTC
Made a start to the Molder's 109D or is it a C, no-one seems too clear. No external difference anyway apart from maybe the tail wheel. I have this picture of her "Luchs" and Werner, he is the skinny guy in the middle of the shot.

No sign of kill markings though. Were they applied to Legion Condor planes?

Decided to use the resin cockpit. By gosh is it a tight fit. Now I know why Werner was so skinny. I've dremelled away the interior walls of the fuselage till they are paper thin and it is still a tight squeeze. I daren't remove anymore, as they are now translucent. God that had me sweating. I could've just used the plastic cockpit but that resin just looked so good. I'll post some snaps when I've put a coat of paint on the cockpit.
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 09:36 PM UTC
Hi Jaypee, very nice choice for this campaign. I have researched this aircraft earlier, so maybe some of these pictures will be of interest to you to help answer your questions. There are kill markings on the profile, but in the photos I cannot see any kill markings. Maybe they were added at a later date? Or maybe the guy make the colour profile just added them without documentation?







jaypee
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Posted: Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 10:43 PM UTC
Yes Jesper I agree with you. I can only find drawings with the kill markings on, none of the photos I've found of 6.79 have them.
Other aircraft of the condor legion do sport kill markings. Perhaps the photos of 6.79 just early ones as Molders' later mounts do have kill markings on them.

The hunt continues, meanwhile I'm more worried about destroying the kit altogether with the dremel.

Why do we make life so difficult for ourselves? I know you won't be able to see anything in the beautiful resin cockpit once it is all closed up.
The vacform canopy I'm scared to cut. Happily there are two supplied so if the worst happens it'll just have a closed canopy. Thanks AML for that.
vanize
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Posted: Friday, July 04, 2008 - 01:22 AM UTC
I can't recall ever seeing any pictures of legion condor a/c with kill markings.

later today i'll go thru my book references for you - i'll let you know if that produces anything of note on the subject.
jaypee
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Posted: Friday, July 04, 2008 - 02:05 AM UTC
Thanks vance I appreciate any digging you can do.
Even if you come up short can you tell me what books you've used so I don't
go looking searching for them too.

Here is a link to some 109 in spain with photos of a few a/c with kill markings.
The whole site is a really good reference in itself.
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/bf109.html
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 06:15 AM UTC
La-5FN progress report.

Hi guys,

progress is slow. I'm a slow builder but in this case it's even more slow.
I had to unglue the fuselage parts and the wing from the fuselage....bad fit :-(

Since everyone who build this Zvezda's kit found it easy to build...
it must be me.
Anyway here's some pics after the fuselage was rebuilt.







All the best.

Jean
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 07:15 AM UTC

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Hi Jaypee, very nice choice for this campaign. I have researched this aircraft earlier, so maybe some of these pictures will be of interest to you to help answer your questions. There are kill markings on the profile, but in the photos I cannot see any kill markings. Maybe they were added at a later date? Or maybe the guy make the colour profile just added them without documentation?



Hi gang

just a short remark: there are plenty of pix if SCW Bf 109 with kill markings. Even of Mölders machine. This one stayed in Spain and was some kind of "lucky a/c" for the youngsters to make their flights (thus many pix after Mölders was home). Just have a look in books about SCW/Legion Condor e.g.Karl Ries, Juan Arrez-Cerda or Patrick Laureau (among others .. )

HTH

cheers

Steffen
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 05:09 PM UTC
My entry is almost ready for paint. It's Accurate Miniatures Yak-1b. I'm building it straight from the box with the kit decals for Sergey Luganski's plane. Luganski wound up with 37 kills, the kit scheme celebrates 32 victories.
CMOT70
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 07:26 PM UTC
Nice Yak "wrenchy". The AM kit is a nice one, i've built one of the Eduard boxings of it which is the same excellent plastic with some brass and nice decal options added.

The Romanian Bf109 is coming together quickly. The Hasegawa kit has to be one of the easiest and best fitting 1/48 kits i've built. No filling and sanding yet. Like usual for a 109 i bevelled the rear fuselage edges slightly to apply a deliberate seam along the aircraft spine.

I've been doing some research on the camo for these Romanian aircraft, and like usual there are differing opinions! Some say they were standard Luftwaffe splinter scheme of 70/71/65. And some aircraft were replacement refurbished German aircraft and could have been in that scheme. But pics of early originally delivered Romanian Bf109E-3's (some before the theater markings were applied) definately show an overall solid upper colour as far as i can tell. It could be RLM71 like Hasegawa say, or the Romanian Olive Green. Probably after a the first Russian summer it's hard to tell the difference anyway and it's all irrelevant. I'll be using faded RLM71, as Vincas aircraft looks to be an original E-3 and i see no signs of splinter camo in the pics of it.

Primered



Andrew
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Posted: Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 07:54 PM UTC

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Romanian 109's are very yellow, not just yellow theater marking like usual, but the national markings as well. I started last night and already have all the sub-assemblies together and primed ready for interior painting. The Hasegawa kits are older than the Tamiya ones, but i still like them. Interior is not as detailed as newer stuff (like the CA kits), but the exterior has excellent surface detailing that still stands up to anything released recently. I just hope the decals work out ok, i've never liked Hasegawa decals much.

Andrew



The Hasegawa 1/48 109Es actually turn 20 this year, they were released in 1988 (with some minor re-working of the molds a few years later)! And as you say Andrew, they are still excellent!



Magnus
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Posted: Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 08:12 AM UTC

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just a short remark: there are plenty of pix if SCW Bf 109 with kill markings. Even of Mölders machine. This one stayed in Spain and was some kind of "lucky a/c" for the youngsters to make their flights (thus many pix after Mölders was home). Just have a look in books about SCW/Legion Condor e.g.Karl Ries, Juan Arrez-Cerda or Patrick Laureau (among others .. )

HTH

cheers

Steffen



Ninety!, thanks for those references Steffen I think i'll have to get one of those as I've got a few plans for SCW a/c up me sleeve.
jaypee
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Posted: Monday, July 07, 2008 - 10:27 PM UTC
I thought I'd post my limited progress here. Just to show how nice the cockpit resin looks. I've cut up the fuselage and wings to use the resin control surfaces which have very impressive subtle ribbing. Washes highlights and chipping to go on the cockpit next.
There is a lot of resin and pe in this kit, for example each undercarriage has 10 pieces of PE. Must admit I'm viewing that as a challenge

bf109d
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Posted: Monday, July 07, 2008 - 11:04 PM UTC

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Ninety!, thanks for those references Steffen I think i'll have to get one of those as I've got a few plans for SCW a/c up me sleeve.



Hi JP

well, if you are not sure about what to get, maybe pay a visit to a local library or aviation bookshop to find out what book suits your needs best. Also there is a Jagdwaffe volume on SCW which is maybe not as expensive as the other book (and easier to get).



BTW nice progress ... cockpits are what hinders my progress the most ... and then masking .. man, I am masking my Bf 110 for a week now .. what a large plane and what a slow worker

cheers

Steffen
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Posted: Monday, July 07, 2008 - 11:29 PM UTC
Thanks steffen, I've ordered Ries and Ring from a 2nd hand bookshop for £26 which seems ok. There is some cowboy on amazon selling Jagdwaffe SCW for £120 !!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 06:36 AM UTC
All,

Made a start on the Machold 109. Only got the cockpit assembled and painted. Needs a wash and some shading and will be done. Seatbelts will be added from Eduards Luftwaffe fighters set.



Some more cockpit sidewall details will be added, like the fuel line and throttle quadrants etc.



I have also assembled the wings, undercart and a few other bits and pieces. I will finish the cockpit and close up tomorrow. More photos then.

Comments and critque welcome.

Steve

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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 08:48 AM UTC
Hi all,

the image below contains the plane I would like to build.



It is the middle plane (1 + ~), no yellow band. I know it does not have the kill markings, while the top one does. However, I would like to save those markigs for when my skills have improved for an all out build.

So my question is if the middle plane is acceptable (I think I have found a picture on the net of him getting out of the plane).

If it is, then my build would be the following:

Hasegawa 1/48 BF-109 G6
Ace: Erich Hartmann
Date of plane use: August 1944 (kills 296 - 301), according to the decal instructions.

Cheers,

Harm
vanize
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Posted: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:46 PM UTC

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Hi Jaypee, very nice choice for this campaign. I have researched this aircraft earlier, so maybe some of these pictures will be of interest to you to help answer your questions. There are kill markings on the profile, but in the photos I cannot see any kill markings. Maybe they were added at a later date? Or maybe the guy make the colour profile just added them without documentation?










I can confirm that I have seen a picture of this aircraft with 12 white kill marks on the tail of the same style depicted in the color profile above. 8 in the upper row, and 4 in the lower, with the first of the lower ones being offset such that the second mark lined up with the first upper mark.

It must be taken at a later date though, as the black roundel on the fuselage shows considerably more wear (in the form of paint chipping) than in these photos.

Also, apparently some bullet holes were patched in the area of the roundel, as there is some touch up overspray of gray aint on the black as well in a couple spots along the edge.

I can't recall where I found the pic, but i do have a copy of it. If JP would like to PM me with his email address, I'll send it along to him.
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Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:07 AM UTC
Hello everyone,

Since I am close to finishing my B-10 for “Twin Spinners” I started on my “Aces High” entry. The kit is a KI-27 in 1/48th made by Mania (I guess pre Hasegawa?).


Hiromishi Shinohara
Japan
58 Victories
Killed in Action: August 1939

Shinohara fought in Manchuria against the Russians where he was known as “The Richthofen of the Orient.” One day alone he downed 11 enemy planes. He scored 58 victories in three months.









Sincerely,
Brian
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Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:21 AM UTC
I think I made a mistake- I started a Yak-3 for Battle for Europe campaign intending to build OOB (Eduard Weekend). In the meantime I found and bought decals for Commandant Louis Delfino (Normandie-Niemen regiment) as I liked the OO symbol- so now I have an Aces aircraft. Oh well.... . btw the Yak is very nice and I will start painting as soon as I feel confident with the new airbrush I bought.. Brian, I like the Ki-27, good choice - I'll be watching it! Jean, I have never seen the La-5 kit and I hope it comes out OK, looks good up to now.
Two pics of the Yak

I need to start thinking more about cockpits
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Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:45 AM UTC
Hi All,

Looks like there some more nice builds coming onstream here..

I have got some more photos of the 109's cockpit and fuselage interior.

Cockpit done and Eduard seatbelts added



Instrument panel added.



Fuselage interior washed and highlighted.



Fuel pipe added from a small of yellow wire taken from a dead mouse. Clear viewing glass added from clear streched sprue. I am not going to add any more detail as it can't be seen with the fuselage closed.



I am now going too close up and add the wings as I can't do nothing on it for a few days so it will give it good time for the glue to cure.

Any comments welcome as always.

Steve
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Posted: Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:20 AM UTC
That interior looks very nice!
But please, consider just a single addition to cockpit before closing up the fuselage. The fuel in the sidewall could use retaining clips and insulator (what's the word for this? Duct tape?) wrapped around the joints between the clear section and the pipe.
The photo's of a G6, but that doesn't matter, just to get the idea.
http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/167271/271mo-04.jpg
What variant was it again that you're building?
CMOT70
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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2008 - 02:32 AM UTC
I've been busy on the Vinca 109E-3. Actually this has turned into a combo build yet again. I dug out the Revell version of the Hasegawa kit and begun building that as well, it is to be the aircraft (Bf109E-4) of Erwin Leykauf of JG 54 during the Battle of Britain just after he scored his 5th victory. No pics yet of the Leykauf aircraft, it's still at the primer and cockpit stage.

The Vinca aircraft is much closer to completion. The Hasegawa decals have turned out quite good, and i feel quite accurate as well except for maybe the white surrounds of the Michaels crosses being too wide. But i'm ok with them.





Decals on, still shiny though.



Andrew

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Posted: Friday, July 11, 2008 - 07:55 AM UTC
There are some wonderful builds going on here. I won't mention any names though. You know you you are.
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 10:32 AM UTC
Hi all!

Now I have come to the paint booth, and as usual I started with the Azure Blue underside.



I masked off the underside with tape and then it was time to paint Middle Stone;



Now we come to the interesting part when painting Spitfires, creating the cammo pattern!

On the real aircraft the workers used rubber mats to mask, and that´s exactly how I will do, using masks made of tape.

I had a drawing in 1/48 from a Tamiya Spitfire MkVc, blew it up with 150% to get a 1/32nd scale plan.
Some concerns about the scale accuracy have come up around this kit, but I can tell that the 1/32 model fitted the plans PERFECTLY!
Only exception was in the length of the nose as the MkIXc is slightly longer, and so was the model!

The camouflage is the same "A-pattern" as the Tamiya kit, but the colors are inverted and the Dark Green is replaced with Dark Earth.



So here we go, with a scalpel I cut out the sections of the camouflage I wanted to use.
Then I placed the piece of paper over some strips of tape and traced the contours with the scalpel,



Then I peeled it off the table and placed the mask on the model.



After a few hours of work I had the model completly masked and ready for the Dark Earth.





Then I left it a few days to fully cure.

With so much tape on the model, the demasking took me almost half an hour!



I had almost no creeping paint and no lift-offs in the paintjob, what a relief!
The small blemishes was easily worked out.

I fitted the landing gears, and added the braking wires from a piece of black cable from my railroad´s electrical stock.



Then it was off for a good clear coat and then I left it to dry for a couple of days.

The Decals from Cartograph was excellent and worked perfectly, no bleed trough from the camouflage beneath and they settled down with no silvering.
Using decals as this good is always a joy!

Only snag was the big top wing roundels that had to go over some raised details.

Soaking in HOT water and a liberally dose of Micro-sol made this to the decal;



NEVER touch a decal that looks like this!
Go take a coffee brake and when you return it will look like this;



Snuggled down in the recesses and over the raised details and looks as it was painted on!

Note that the roundels always goes OVER the walkway markings on all Spitfires!

All other decals settled down with only hot water and Micro-set, and they looked exactly as beautiful.






A lightly applied black wash, and then I could finish with the final satin clear coat.

Cockpit masks was removed and all small parts like the wheels and prop could now be attatched to the model.



Yup, my Spitfire Is finished!

More pics coming soon!

Cheers!

Stefan E