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CMOT70
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 05:39 PM UTC

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Hello All,
I sent in a request for a gallery. I am very sorry about missing that for the campaign.
I hope all of you will forgive me for the lapse



Actually there has been a gallery for this campaign from the very start, so no lapse at all Bruce. It's in the "aeroscale campaigns 2009" section.

Andrew
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2009 - 09:59 PM UTC
Hello Andrew,
When I looked for the gallery I looked at the active campaigns section and could not find it. It has all of Armorama, MSW and some others there so I guessed I forgot to ask for a gallery.
This is my first campaign here and this site is set up different from the sites I normally run campaigns on.
Thanks for clearing it up.
Cheers,
Bruce
Red4
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2009 - 04:19 AM UTC
I found the gallery and yes it is buried. Unless you know where to look it proves difficult to find. I'll get my pics posted to the gallery asap. I also made some progress on my Albatross last night by getting the white and Intl. Orange shot on her. Hoping to continue today. Thanks, "Q"

Red4
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2009 - 10:50 AM UTC
I made some more progress on my Albatross today. While I shot the Dark Sea Blue I can't help but think it is a close match for flat black. I do like the look of it though. I got a few minor areas to touch up, but nothing that I can't handle. Thanks, "Q"

JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2009 - 07:16 PM UTC

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Two Gloster aircraft (in the 1929 air race) were registered with RAF numbers N249 & N250. They showed promise and high speed, but also had significant problems with fuel supply when banking that led to engine cut-outs. For such a risky business as low-altitude air-racing, this was an unacceptable risk and the aircraft were withdrawn from competition in the 1929 Schneider Trophy, leaving the way clear for the Supermarine S.6 to win. . . Now in the Austrian Aviation birthplace from Wiener Modellbau Manufactur we are given an excellent kit. My review example came with no warp in the resin. Definately a high quality kit. The float / pontoon struts are poured brass instead of typical white metal found in other kits. This is a great boon as it will add strength and longevity to the over-all build.



The build has been underway for a few days now.


Here I added some bits to the cockpit. Not having much to go on for the cockpit I have to admit to some gizmology.


The Sutton Farm Pilot Harness was developed late in WWI and under a series of modifications served well into WWII on British aircraft. Here I am including an Eduard prepainted PE fret.


Here is the pilot's right side fuselage joint. It reminds me of the moldings of the Pfalz D.III / IIIa types.


Here are the PE pieces representing the wing mounted (upper and lower surfaces)radiator. The trick here is to anchor the PE parallel to the aileron and work it like laying wall to wall carpeting. Work carefully to wrap it around the wing leading edge.
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2009 - 07:26 PM UTC

Here are the float radiator applications.


This is a shot of the underbelly and the lower sections of the fuselage mounted radiators.


The fuselage and wing radiators are in place.
Red4
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 03:17 AM UTC
Nice looking build so far Stephen. What is the color scheme going to be? "Q"
JackFlash
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 04:31 AM UTC
I have two to choose from. All "old gold" or British "blue fuselage and old gold wings".
grayghost666
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 05:31 AM UTC
Hello Stephen,
Good looking build. Thanks for explaining how you did all of the PE it will help when I do my build.
I think that I would go with the blue/gold. It breaks up the color scheme.
Thanks for the update,
Cheers,
Bruce
JackFlash
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 08:38 PM UTC
Greetings Bruce here is a bit more.


A bit of pine the tail on the Gloster. Brass pins only folks. Never any white metal or steel.


The propeller is 3 pieces and pinned together as well.


Getting everything level concerning the landing gear legs is critical.


Side views.
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 08:44 PM UTC
I have now changed my mind about what to build for this campaign. I got a cheap old Matchbox kit on ebay. That brings out the memories seeing those old plastic frames in three colours. One almost gets misty eyed

Unfortunently one of the propellers are broken and the missing part gone forever. I am a little concerned to try to make a propeller from scratch as I think this is beyond my skills. Can anybody help with a spare propeller(blade)? Alternatively two propellers since this aircraft is both a pusher and puller driven aircraft.
As this is an old Matchbox kit and details are sparce and rough to say the least, I am not too worried about the propeller blade fitting perfectly.

More to follow when construction begins









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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 10:47 PM UTC
Hey Jesper, great minds think alike my friend. I got started on my old matchbox He115 today, got all of the major sub-assemblies together and test fitted. Seems ok. Interior detail, well these pilots obviously didn't need any controls at all, it was done with mind-power alone.



I won't be doing anything on the interior of this one, it will be my first try at German splinter camoflage so I will focus on the painting and weathering.

More soon. Cheers, D
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 - 11:49 PM UTC

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Hey Jesper, great minds think alike my friend. I got started on my old matchbox He115 today, got all of the major sub-assemblies together and test fitted. Seems ok. Interior detail, well these pilots obviously didn't need any controls at all, it was done with mind-power alone.

More soon. Cheers, D



I can only agree fully - especially to the first point

Yes, these old Matchbox aircraft do not have much interior, but on the other hand not much can be seen through 2mm think clear curved styrene anyway
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 12:25 AM UTC
Hi there

Something tells me I'm going to have to change my Campaign entry... this beauty arrived in the post this morning!:



It's a good job I haven't started the Widgeon yet!

All the best

Rowan
JimMrr
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 02:55 AM UTC
merlin..thats Swweeeeeeeet looking...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 07:38 AM UTC

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merlin..thats Swweeeeeeeet looking...



Hi Jim

Yes, it's a real stunner! I took some photos this afternoon and the quality is amazing. I'll try to get the Review published in the next couple of days and then start planning the build. I've a lot on my plate at the moment, so I won't rush headlong into it, but this will be by far the most complex biplane I've tackled and should be a really exciting challenge.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 09:10 AM UTC

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A bit of pine the tail on the Gloster. Brass pins only folks. Never any white metal or steel.



Hi Stephen

Lovely work so far. Do you advise against steel etc because of the risk of rust? I always do use brass rod, but I'd never really thought about the possible shortcomings of other materials.

All the best

Rowan
Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 05:48 PM UTC
I got the stall on my Albatross taken care of and was able to finish her up this morning. Only thing left to do is replace the styrene rod I have in this pic with a clear acrylic rod. Other than that, I am calling her done. This was my first attempt at a water effect...not all that great in my eyes, but I don't really see a whole lot more water in my future builds....and it's done. Thanks for looking. "Q"

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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:06 PM UTC
Looks great Q, that Dayglo Orange is a real eye-catcher. Any chance of some more angles of the Albatross ??

Cheers, D
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:49 PM UTC

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A bit of pine the tail on the Gloster. Brass pins only folks. Never any white metal or steel.



Hi Stephen
Lovely work so far. Do you advise against steel etc because of the risk of rust? I always do use brass rod, but I'd never really thought about the possible shortcomings of other materials.
All the best
Rowan



Yes Rowan, Absolutely - Resin never completely cures. Using steel or potmetal wire rod will begin a rusting process that will degrade the glue joint over a period of a few short weeks. Resin does not react with brass except to latch on tightly.
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:51 PM UTC
Next I add the floats and prep for the finish.


Here is that instrument panel Terri asked about.


With the floats attached.


Here is where the leveling pays off.


head on.
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 06:55 PM UTC
After masking I begin the priming.


This is the brass etch canopy and the resin block you need to form it.


Primed for the finish.


Note the prop & spinner get their prime coat too.
Red4
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 - 07:12 PM UTC

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Looks great Q, that Dayglo Orange is a real eye-catcher. Any chance of some more angles of the Albatross ?? Cheers, D

Thanks for the kudos. It is a real b*** to photograph. But, I will get some more pics of it, however they will have to wait as the kit is currently in a display case at the local hobby shop as part of an in the case contest, and I am leaving for Italy for 2 weeks in a couple days. Thanks again for the kudos, much appreciated. "Q"
JimMrr
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 02:40 AM UTC
Great looking builds everyone!..and thanks for the tip on resin and pinning there Stephen, I learned something new!
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2009 - 11:06 AM UTC

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Can anybody help with a spare propeller(blade)?



Hi Jesper,

I received a bunch of spare aircraft parts from Spongya awhile back. I am not sure what all is in there but I might be able to help you out. If you could give me the basic measurements and all of that good stuff I can see what I have and maybe I will have what you need.

HARV