Jan,

Other Twins, can be just as complex as the 'Cat', apart from your previously mentioned Mosquito or Beaufighter, the Mossie has almost 50 bits to make up the cockpit/bombay assembley alone.

Idea's in 48 scale {of course}:-

Catalina
A20 Boston in either the b/c or g kits.
B25 Mitchell - The Italeri has almost 40 parts more than the Acc Mins
B26 Maruader
P 38 Lightning
C 47 Dakota

On the other side there are these:

Dinah
Gekko
Nick - old Nichimo kit
Hs 129
He 219
110 c/d or g
Do 335 either 1 of the 3 kits

Just to name a few 'Twins'

Hope this helps a little



My {Italeri kit} A20 Boston construction so far, intented as an RAF Sqn in Nth Africa.

The List :

Clients Builds:

He 111 h6
Typhoon Ib - Early {3 blade prop bubble canopy}
Macchi 205
Fw 200 c4 Condor
F 14 Tomcat - 32 scale
F15 Eagle - 32 scale

RAAF Contract:

DH 82 Tiger Moth
B 24j Liberator

Repairs:

Do 335 {old Monogram kit}
Dinah
Typhoon Ib - Late

This following List are My Models :

Catalina {posted on thread}
Bf 110 g12
Mirage III
Skyray
P 40b Tomahawk
Bae 100 Hawk
Hurricane IIb
P 51b Mustang
P 51d Mustang
B 58 Hustler
S3 Viking
GR 1 Tornado
P 47d Thunderbolt x 2
P 47d Thunderbolt Razorback x 2
A20g Boston
B 26 Marauder
A-ih Skyraider
Do 17
B7A2 Grace
C 130j Hercules II {conversion}
P 38j Lightning
F-4a1 Lightning
F 51d Mustang
P 40e Kittyhawk
P 40n Kittyhawk
Swordfish Floatplane
Lancaster Grand Slam {this would make any modeller weep - more of that later}
Hurricane I - 24 scale
A6M5c Zero - 24 Scale
B Ib
Avenger - RNFAA markings
A10 Thunderbolt II

Centurion V - AFV kit
Centurion V/I {Tamiya III conversion}

Clients kits YET to start on:

B25d Mitchell
Sworfish - wheeled version
Mosquito PR IV
Spitfire VIII

I have been thinking about getting any of these lassies.....

P-38 or the reconnaissance version F-5.
B-25 Mitchell
A-20 Havoc/Boston
Mosquito
Beaufighter
Messerschmitt Bf 110
Heinkel He 219
Junkers Ju 88

See what happens matey....impressive list btw.
:-)

Jan,

Thanks for pic of the Ventura boxart, I know of this kit, but sadly their is no Agent in Oz for this brand of model subjects.

These pix are of my current workshop before Meyhem and Kaos Moved In, out of a standard 5 x 3 desk I have about 12 square inches to work on. The spray booth - whats one of those - another desk at the back of the garrage is were I do most of my airbrush painting, {note the pic of the A20 Boston previously posted, the cardboard is the desk surface protection}.








the paint supply.

This is what my workshop was layed out before the "Newer Storage Units' were moved in about 6 months ago.





I can go back to the workshop setup prior to this that was the spare room of my unit.

Rob

Thats one hell of a work shop - i have to make do with the dining room table, i have a garage with a modelling area, but use this for painting, as it's too cold most of the year for moddelling.

Jan - i've just finished a P-38 in 48 scale, and a very nice kit it was too.

I try to have more than one kit on the go at a time, but tend to concentrate on one, just dipping into others when the mood takes. I've recently come over to aircraft modelling from Armour - it'a not a permenant change, i intend keeping 35 scale armour going as well. I've only got two planes on the go at the moment. the 48 scale Academy Black Cat PBY-5A and a 24scale Sopwith Camel - the rigging of which is causing me problems, so it's in the box at the moment.

I Have a Beaufighter and mosquito to pick up at the Telford Show this weekend, a Typhoon that i've won on Ebay and a P-61 Black Widow i hope to win.

I have also aquired a 48 scale Phantom, Invader and Meteor, which are in transit to me at the moment.

On the armour side i have a couple of tigers, 2 251 halftracks a 234 8 wheel Armoured car and a stug in 35 scale and a pair of 72 scale hummers - for a campaign on Armorama.

Jan - i've PM'd you re the Show

Andy

Andy,

Isn't the PBY 5a Academy kit in 72 scale ?

24 scale Camel, now that a nice size model, what kit is that ?

Jan,

I omitted the Ju 88 from the list as I'm intending to swap it for another B 25 from a clun member.
Get the F5 kit version of the P 38, this way you get all the various options from the P38h upward as well as the F5, any or all on this list would be a good build

Both.

Thanks for the kind words on the workshop.

I dabble from time to time in the 35 scale stuff {being an ex M 113 APC jockey, I got stuck in wild blue yonder with the model aircraft.

I've got some 1/35 kits as well, but back in Sweden with my parents....
Probably I'll have some of them sent over at some point... But for now, I'll be concentrating on airplanes. Great "office" Rob! :-)

Rob

Spot on - the academy kit is 72 scale - but it's a fine kit. Jan is keeping eyes out for 48 scale ones for both of us, as am i - I'm going to scour the stands at the show as well.

I lied about the Camel - it's 32 scale academy, not 24 - i knew it was bigger than 48 but memory failed me a bit.

It's off to the cold of the garage to primer the cat's wing tonight - and then more struggles with photo etch for the cockpit - but i'm pleased with how well it's coming. More photos soon.

Andy

Andy,

The Academy Catalina kits are good kits to put together and I'll sadly miss looking at the completed bird posted on the threads when it's gone but I've enjoyed dabbling in a smaller scale with this build.
My brother asked if I would build the Academy 32 scale Camel for him as I thourght you put type o as to the scale.

Both,

Most clients and new customer claim my workshop storage is a shop but strange things do happen in the course of modelling, note the motorcycle model on the shelf, that is the second build for a client in China.
I mentioned previously that I dabble in Armour now and then, I did a kitbash of a 'Skyboleri' {Skybow WC 51 married to an Italeri WC 54} WC 54 Ambulance into a Radio Truck a couple of years ago, as well as the Ambulance as an OOB and a 'New Ownership' of a BMW R75 with sidecar.

Knowing this is an aircraft forum I'll sort out some pix and post the links for them later.

Jan,

13 Sqn RAAF flew the Ventura in Australia, but 464 Sqn flew them under the RAF prior to converting to the Mosquito.
Their is an AM decal for the RAAF Ventura in the PTO but it's in 72 scale.
I'd like to see the 48 Sunderland FM are claiming to have as a future release, but sadly in OZ there is no Agent for the FM brand of kits.

The ship on the workbench at the time {of the pix} is the Heller 400 scale Bismarck.

Going back to the topic at hand, as previously mentioned I've built this as 2 sub assemblies, the Oil Coolers and Fuel Drain tubes have been fitted to the main wing, the winf support struts are CA glued to the fuselage and the pix show the model as the 2 sub assemblies and the weathering set used to create the exhaust and fuel stains.

Rob.

The fuel/exhaust staining looks great - i have a set of pastels that should get the same effect. I may not go for as weathered a bird as you have, but i'm gonna try the same technique, after all you have to learn sometime.

All of the cockpit PE is now done - it's primed and ready for top coat paint. I'm at Telford at the Weekend, but may post build photos on Sunday.

Jan

Any idea when you'll be building again? I got the PM - will keep my eyes open.

Have a good day

Andy

Andy,

Pastels are ok for creating the same effect, they need to be sealed with a sealer before using Flat Varnish or Dullcoat, if you have questions or problems following the techinque I used, I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have, in completing your bird.

I'll send you a PM

A few more snaps of this bird, now the wings are attached:



These 2 pix show the before and after weathering applied to the props:- first these were painted in Gloss Black, the in Alclad II Aluminium, treated with Maskol and painted Matt Black, the yellow safety tip is Tamiya Bright Yellow, this is applied by dipping the prop blades into the paint that forms on the lid.
When dry the Maskol is removed.



All trailing antenias are attached to all points, from the rudder post to each wingtip and radio antenia mast on the main wing.
All trimming of the mounting points and excess thread will be done shortly and painted in semi gloss black, before applying some Invisiclear to create the insulators and painting them silver.


Now for something different:
3x 'Twins' and a 'Quad'


Classic Airframes kit:

Tamiya Gekko or known as 'Irving'



A 72 scale C 47 Italeri kit, built for a WW II Museum.


An RAF AWACS modified from the 48 scale Revell B 17g, has the distictive BU-G codes I'm not certain as to the Group this unique bird flew with, but it certainly looks different.

I've gone over to this 'Twin' for the time being, it's the Italeri Boxing built as per the boxart {RAF Nth Africa}, but done in a similar way to the 'Cat'.

After the clean up the 'silver base will be applied.

Andy....
Hopefully, if mother nature doesn't work against me on this, I'll be back at the frontlines again in January. That is what I've planned anyway. Hopefully my sacrifices to the almighty Gods should work.
Thanks for keeping your eyes open.

Rob....
The Cat looks better for each picture set that you put up here. The twins looks great and the B-17 deffinetely looks different...

All the best fellas.

:-)

Jan,

Thanks for the kind words. How come you can't build athe moment ?

Both,

I hope the 'Cat' is an inspiration to you in your own Catalina builds, or any other aircraft subject.
It'll be sad when this bird flys the coop and head off to it's new home in a few weeks.

The reason that I can't build for the moment is that I've got to buy everything new again, tools, brushes, paints and so on and start from scratch.
I already have a few kits and always look for new ones, to build later when I'm up and running....it's, to say the least a pain in rear end all this...

:-)

Jan

Looking forward to seeing you posting pictures of builds.

Andy

Same here mate, same here..... Btw fellas, I just bought Italeri's 1/48 FW 190D-9 and Revell's 1/48 Messerschmitt BF-110 G-2.

Just some inspiration for a Mosquito build fellas....Operation Carthage. The low-level attack on Gestapo's HQ in Kopenhagen.

Aircraft involved in the attack (all Mosquito Mk.VI)

No 487 Squadron
RS570 'X' Gp Capt R N Bateson / Sqn Ldr E B Sismore (Raid Leader)
PZ402 'A' Wg Cdr F M Denton / Fg Off A J Coe (damaged, belly landed at base)
PZ462 'J' Flt Lt R J Dempsey / Flt Sgt E J Paige (hit by flak, 1 engine u/s, returned safely)
PZ339 'T' Sqn Ldr W P Kemp / Flt Lt R Peel
SZ985 'M' Fg Off G L Peet / Fg Off L A Graham
NT123 'Z' Flt Lt D V Pattison / Flt Sgt F Pygram (missing)

No 464 Squadron
PZ353 Flt Lt W K Shrimpton RAAF (Pilot) / Fg Off P R Lake RAAF
PZ463 Flt Lt C B Thompson / Sgt H D Carter
PZ309 Flt Lt A J Smith RAAF / Flt Sgt H L Green RAAF
SZ999 Fg Off H G Dawson RAAF / Fg Off P T Murray (missing)
RS609 Fg Off J H Palmer RAAF / 2nd Lt H H Becker RNorAF (missing)
SZ968 Wg Cdr Iredale RAAF / Fg Off Johnson
All aircraft took off at 0840; last back landed 1405.

No 21 Squadron
SZ977 Wg Cdr P A Kleboe / Fg Off K Hall (missing)
PZ306 Sqn Ldr A F Carlisle / Flt Lt N J Ingram
LR388 Sqn Ldr A C Henderson / Flt Lt W A Moore
HR162 Flt Lt M Hetherington / Fg Off J K Bell
No 21 Squadron records list only these four aircraft and crews above as taking part in this operation.
All aircraft took off at 0835; the three which returned did so at 1355.

A Mosquito build on the 'Gestapo Hunters' would be a good one to do with the FB VI kit. Any PR birds used as film units on this ?

Jan,

Hope you can build something shortly, btw the Revell 110 G2 a nice kit that would need a set od masks, when you get to build this bewere of the lower wing joint under the centre fuselage, {if it's the same as the Revell G12 that I'm doing}, never did an Fw 190 D, I've always built the radial engine versions of the Fw 190.

I'll have another 'Twin' to show shortly.

Likewise mate, the sooner that I can start again the better.... I hope that this will answer your question Rob..... Looking forward to see the next "twin".

By the end of 1944 the Danish resistance-movement in Copenhagen was in danger of being wiped out by the Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo). Many of their leaders were arrested and a lot of material was filed in the Gestapo archives in the Shell house which was located in Copenhagen. Leading members of the resistance-movement requested an attack by air on the Shell House via SOE in London.

Finally on 21 March 1945, 20 Mosquitoes from 2nd TAF escorted by 28 Mustang Mk. IIIs from the 11th Group took off from RAF Fersfield in Norfolk, England. 18 of the Mosquito bombers were F.B. Mk. VIs and 2 were Mosquito B. Mk. IVs from the Photo Production Unit (PRU).

The Mustang Mk. IIIs from F/Lt. David Drews No. 64 and Maj. Austeens No 126 Squadron (Austen from Norway, KIA May 1945) had 3 Mustangs abort the mission when F/Lt. Sharpe and F/Lt. Holmes both from No. 126 Sqn and Sgt. Wyting from No. 64 Sqn was hit by Seagulls. (The 28 Mustangs were from 64, 126 and 234 Squadrons.)

The Mosquito force attacked in 3 waves: 1st wave with 7 Mosquitoes (one PRU) the 2nd wave with 6 Mosquitoes and finally the 3rd wave with 7 Mosquitoes (one PRU). The primary objective for the Mustangs was to attack Flak positions in central Copenhagen.

When the 1st wave passed the Enghave Station, the Mosquito SZ 977, with Pilot W/Cdr. Peter A Kleboe and Navigator F/O K Hall, hits a 30 met-re lamp post and then the wingtip of the Mosquito hits a roof at No 106 apartment on Sonder Boulevard, the 2 bombs rips off (225kg) explodes and 12 people are killed. The Mosquito ”T for Tommy” crashes seconds later in a garage near the French Jeanne d`Arc school at Frederiksbergs Alle. The front part with the cockpit with the two crew members are trown down on Dr. Priemesvej and they are badly burnt. Pilot W/C Peter A. Kleboe and Navigator F/O Reginald J.W. Hall were laid to rest in København Bispebjerg Cemetery on 28 March 1945.

The rest of the wave with Bateson, Carlisle, Air Vice-Marshal Basil Embry, Henderson, Hetherington and Moore found and bombed the Gestapo Headquarters successfully. 6 bombs exploded in the Western wing and of the 9 prisoners in this part of the building, 6 were killed instantly and 1 more died when jumping from the 5th floor to the ground.

The 2nd wave got confused by the smoke and flames from Kleboes crashed Mosquito and attempted to bomb the crash site but W/Cdr. Iredale realized the mistake before he bombed and turned towards the Shell house but 2 of the Mosquitoes in the 2nd wave dropped their bombs on the French school and only F/Lt. Smith were later able to bomb the Shell House.

W/Cdr. Dentons 3rd wave approached Copenhagen from the West. All but 1 of the Mosquitoes dropped their bombs by mistake on the French Jeanne d`Arc Catholic School killing 86 children and 16 adults out of 482 children and adults, while 67 children and 35 adults were wounded. Mounted on the wall of the Shell house of today is a bronze-cast of a propeller from one of the crashed Mosquitoes. A plaque is placed below the propeller with the names of the 9 crews members who were killed in the attack.

Most of the Mosquito Mk. VIs taking part in the attack returned safely but F/Lt. Pattison and F/Sgt. Pygram Mosquito NT 123 was hit by Flak over Copenhagen harbour and announced over the radio that they would try to reach Sweden, but with the left engine on fire they had to ditch East south-east of Hven, about two kilometers of Hakens lighthouse not far from Sweden. The crew was seen to crawl on top of the floating aircraft by locals at Hven but because they did not have any boats that could go out in the stormy weather they contacted the Island Police and he therefore called Landskrona in Sweden for help, but the help arrived to late and the two flyers had drowned and were both KIA. The wreckage has been located after the war, but there was no trace of Pilot F/Lt David V. Pattison and F/Sgt Frank Pygram.

F/O ”Shorty” Dawson and F/O Murrays Mosquito SZ 999 was hit by Flak on the return trip at low altitude and crashed into the Nyrup Bay about 13 kilometers north of Nykøbing Sjælland both were KIA. Afterwards the wreckage was found washed ashore in Nyrup Bay, but there was not trace of Dawson or Murray.

The formation then turned to the West and precisely at that moment ”Spike” Palmers Mosquito RS 609 was hit and F/O Palmer and Fenrik Becker (from Norway) crashes into the sea both were KIA. A body was recovered east of Samsø and were laid to rest in Tranebjerg cemetery on Samsø on 26 March 1945 as an unknown airman. In the year 2000 it was proved by Danish researchers that the person buried was Becker.

F/Lt. David Drew, Mustang Mk. III, HK 460 from No. 64 Squadron, was KIA during the raid (Flak from the light Cruiser Nurnberg) and he crashed in flames at Falledsparken. Drew was buried in København Bispebjerg cemetery on 28 March 1945.

During the return flight Mustang KH 446 was hit by flak, and P/O Robert ”Bob” C. Hamilton had to belly land near Lomborg. Hamilton was unhurt and started walking towards the farm of Anne Jacobsen on Bølvej road. He was quickly captured by the crew of the German observation post at Sortehøj hill located less than a kilometer from the landing site, the guards had been able to see the Mustang for miles and tracked him down before he reached Bølbæk stream and he had therefore no chance of escaping and he became a POW.

A total of 4 Mosquito Mk.VIs and 2 Mustang Mk. IIIs were lost with 9 crewmen KIA and 1 POW.

All 14 prisoners in the Southern wing survived because it was not bombed. The 3 remaining prisoners were under interrogation on the 5th floor, 1 died. 18 out of 26 prisoners survived the bomb raid. A total of 133 Danes dies during and after the raid. Telegrams from Copenhagen modstandsbevægelse thanked the RAF for the successful raid and with the destruction of the Gestapo archives the threat against it´s members was neutralized.

……………………………………………………………………………………...

Some of the prisoners in the Gestapo Headquaters.

Poul Bruun
Lt. Carl Wedell Wedellsborg, dies later from the wounds from jumping from 4th floor
Lt. Ole Stang, died
Admiral Carl Hammerich, died, body was never found.
Poul Sorensen (Secretary-General-Conservative party, saved by a doctor. Police Commissioner Jorgen Odmar, who had worked with Sorensen in the past sent him to a hospital were the doctors fought for his life for several months and therefore he survived)
Morgens Prior (badly beaten by Gestapo) dies later from the wounds after jumping from 4th floor
Capt. Peter Ahnfeldt Mollerup (Copenhagen Resistance Headquater.
Morgens Fog
Professor Brandt Rehberg
Aage Schoch (Two days after his escape from the Shell House, he joined again the Danish Freedom Council and never concidered to leave Denmark after his escape).
Ove Gesso Pedersen
Police Inspector Lyst Hansen
SOE-agent Poul Borking
Carl Hocke died
Helmuth Jensen died
Jorgen Palm Petersen died

The German casualties were 6 KIA and 50 Danish collaborators were also killed.





Film from the attack

Jan,

Thanks for the info on the Aircraft involved.

A/C Embry was the pilot I was trying to think of previously as he flew under an allias name in previous raids and attacks when C O of the Wing under 2 TAF.
I have some interesting sideviews of aircraft flown by 2 TAF, with a captured 'Storch' in RAF prototype colours as a personal mount.
{pity there is no 48 scale Storch kit as yet}

Building either the PR IV for the FB IV as another 'Twin' with the Mustang III 'Angel' or maybe all 3

Andy,

With those 48 scale 'Twins' kits you recently picked up, here are options of either kit form, neither of these two bids have the kit decals applied and the Beau was enhanced by adding the missing kit bits and IFF antenia between the fuselage and tailplanes.
The NF II had been built OOB at the time the kit first came on the market.



These 2 birds have been painted by 2 seperate mediums, the Beau is Xtra Colour 'Night' applied by airbrush finished with Xtra Colour Flat Varnish. Tthe Mossie is Tamiya Matt Black 'Rattle Can' finished with Mr Color Flat also from a 'Rattle Can'


Jan,

Would this qualify as a PR bird on the 'Shell House' raid ?



Here are a couple of other 'Twin's'




These 2 I'll repaint and/or repair provided I can get an AM set of decals for {C47} VH-RGH, as for the Boston VI {A20g} anything would do for that.




This resurection is being done at the same time as the A20c Boston build in DAF service, the B26 is intended to have a similar "beaten up" appearence as the 'Cat'

Great looking lassies Rob.... I'm sure that the your Mossie would fit in just fine as one of the PRU Mossies during the Shell house attack....
Would make a cool "group build", this attack or the one on Gestapo HQ in Aarhus wouldn't it? Think that I'll pick a Mosquito or two and maybe a Beaufighter for some low-level work.

What did you think about the video from the attack??

Awesome work Rob!

Jan,

The video was excellent, I have the English version on a DVD.

Any of the 'Guestapo Hunters' raids as a GB is wirthy of doing, as a 'Colonial' with a Beau for low level work, 'The Colonial ShipBusters Inc' was a RNZAF Sqn based in Scotland they flew with 455 Sqn RAAF at some point in the later half of the war.
Both Sqn's had a non standard cammo of Dark Slate Grey/ Sea Grey over Sky on a couple of their birds both with and without the AEAF bands.

Did you recieve the PM I sent you earlier ?

Aye, read and put on my favorites list, thanks alot mate. I'm trying to find out more about a third low-level on Gestapo, this time in Odense 17th April 1945.

Hi guys

You spend one day at a show and a whole new page appears!!

I'm too tired to read all this info at the moment - will do in the morning.

Both the Mossie and the Beau are safely on the stash, with PE and Decals etc. Also picked up a P-5E Photo recon lightning - maybe the nose of this one will stay on the ground.

The Telford Show is superb, Rob you'll enjoy it in 2008, Jan anychance you may put an appearance in next year - don't know where in Scotland you are based to know if the trip is feasable.

I'm going to bed now - i've driven a 7.5 hour round trip to the show.

Andy