FW 190 Campaign. It will really be cool!
England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 04:18 AM UTC
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Hi Carl
as proposed earlier in this thread, I would like something like this:
Steffen
..the Adlerflügel ( eagle wing) design (JG 2) would look good in silhouette ....and more Würger like.
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/08/stuff_eng_profile_fw190a4.htm looking at Schnell's machine for my build or .....may well end up doing that late-war natural metal machine from SG 2 (IIRC)....
Thanks for the pic Nige, new to me..
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Posted: Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 10:51 PM UTC
Nigel, I could just about kiss you for this. However, I guess that would cause you to cause injury on me, so I won't.
Anyway, I went through the whole threads on both Wurgers and T-bolts yesterday, just to cure the itch to get started allready. There I saw that you was planning on building this bird too, and a lot earlier than me.
Are you, and should we perhaps leave it to you? Waddaya say?
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 06:40 AM UTC
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Nigel, I could just about kiss you for this. However, I guess that would cause you to cause injury on me, so I won't.
Anyway, I went through the whole threads on both Wurgers and T-bolts yesterday, just to cure the itch to get started allready. There I saw that you was planning on building this bird too, and a lot earlier than me.
Are you, and should we perhaps leave it to you? Waddaya say?
Wadda I say?
Firstly,,a simple "thanks for the photo" is MORE than sufficent
Looks like I flew out of Stockholm this morning just in time LOL!
I am still very undecided as to what I'll be building for this,so go for it!
I seem to remember seeing some photos of an orange or red 190 in US markings which sounds like an interesting subject.
Nige
It's not the same, better, but not the same...
Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:18 AM UTC
Great Nigel. "a simple thanks for the photo" it is!
Good to hear you managed to get out of Stockholm though. Stockholmers are...ehrrm...city people. Hard for a country boy like me to understand.
I've also seen something like an orangereddish 190 somewhere, but can't recall where. Looked a bit like on the run from the Reno air races, so that would definately be a centrepiece in in the collection.
Jönköping, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 07:36 AM UTC
Yoohoo! Google rules ok.
Nigel. I found two flamboyant US 190's. If you go
here you'll find a diabolicly red one, in colour a bit down, and a red and yellow one a bit further down. Quite a few colour pic there frankly. And if you go
here there are b/w pics of the red/yellow and a third one.
I wish you good look with the colour matching
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 08:07 AM UTC
Theres also color plate of that plane in Ospreys
Luftwaffe Sturmgruppe: " Fw 190A-8/R2 OO-L of the 404th FG. Ninth AF, St Trond, January 1945". However it is bright red (same looking color as used in some of tail bands) instead of orange and it has knight insignia of II.(Sturm)/JG4 still remaining in engine cowling, only in left hand side thought.
That plane belonged to Gefreiter Walter Wagner of II.(Sturm)/JG4, and its original callsign was "White 11". It was shot down during Operation Bodenplatte, and belly-landed on USAAF fighter airfield!
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Turku ja Pori, Finland
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 12:15 AM UTC
I found photo from my archives of that captured wurger I was talking above:
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 04:45 AM UTC
Thanks Tuomas.
Thats one I'd be interested in doing. All I would need to source would be the JG insignia from a decal sheet somewhere.
Interesting to see that the undercarriage is missing the bottom cover on both sides.
I was in Turku last week,,,its cold there! Spent some time with my friend Amorella
Nige
It's not the same, better, but not the same...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 06:53 AM UTC
Isn't that the same as one of the marking options in
Eduard's A8/R2 boxing?
Hmm, the campaign starting date is just around the corner. Perhaps I should give it a go as well?
I got two A8s in my stash at the moment, one in 1:72 (Revell kit plus a bunch of AM goodies) and one 1:48 (Eduard, the first release. Yes, I still haven't got around building that one....)
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 08:59 AM UTC
Hi Eetu!
Thats what I call a result!
Theres a show coming up early January and I'll pick up that kit for my entry.
Nice one
Nige
It's not the same, better, but not the same...
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 09:33 AM UTC
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[I am still very undecided as to what I'll be building for this,so go for it!
I seem to remember seeing some photos of an orange or red 190 in US markings which sounds like an interesting subject.
Nige
..and a couple more views.....ex II./JG4 A-8 Sturmjäger that put down at St. Trond on 1.1.45 and was repainted in honour of 404th FG CO Col. L Moon. Hence the OO L code. Note the date on the tailfin . Looks much better in its original camo if you ask me.. (Pics are from my own collection via Jim Crow who got the full story from Leo Moon himself)
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 05:32 AM UTC
5 more days ! ..................................................
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 07:29 AM UTC
..time to rummage through the stash....actually I've found two 24 scale Airfix/Heller 190s and associated odd bits, including a Verlinden cockpit (for the belt buckles & instruments) & Third Gruppe decals (for the swastikas/Hakenkreuze. Also have some Rutman resin for a Sturmjäger conversion & replacement wheels for the vinyl tyres/tires. However just looking at the feeble wing/fuselage joint and the oddly angled gear legs I'm starting to feel a little queasy - not sure at all that attempting this would be a wise move. In fact this is probably way beyond my 'skills'. This was a part- started second hand purchase so I've under-taken a little bit of 'de-construction', like ripping the fuselage apart to get at the dark-blue(?!) cockpit, breaking off the tailwheel and one of the cooling fan blades in the process....perhaps this bit of 'work' disqualifies me already (...with any luck campaign leader ?)
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Posted: Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 06:22 PM UTC
Wow that is quit the under taking ! If you are up for the Challage just take your time at it and work with in your skills and try new things . Lots of helpful people here who are more then willing to help out . The main thing is to have fun and enjoy !
3 more days !
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 03:51 AM UTC
..thanks for the encouragement !
I can but give it a go. I shall be calling for plenty of help, have no fear...
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 10:19 AM UTC
I think I will start with a simple Tamiya 190 A3 as a start. Second build might be a Dora.
Looking forward to get started
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 10:26 AM UTC
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Perhaps this bit of 'work' disqualifies me already (...with any luck campaign leader ?)
No such luck, Neil
Although I am only second in command (Carl is the Campaign leader), I think it is safe to say that you can start on this build on 1st January.
This would be an interesting conversion with a "backward" modelling aspect to it as well.
Secondly you have not actually worked on it yourself.
Finally, we are here to have fun, so go ahead: Take on the challenge and work on this Butcher bird.
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Cork, Ireland
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 09:32 PM UTC
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Hi Carl
as proposed earlier in this thread, I would like something like this:
of course it is just a sketch (I did in the past few minutes after reading your post) ... I know others can do such things much better than me.
cheers
Steffen
Hi Seffan,
I used your idea to come up with a ribbon:
What do you think?
Mike.
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Posted: Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 11:46 PM UTC
Hi Mike
very nice job!!! Thank you! .... I hope it will find the benevolence of the Campaign members
I also like your night fighter ribbon .. thats why I had no fear you would have done it excellently (re my PM)
all the best
Steffen
DULCE ET DECORUM EST PRO HOBBY MORI
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:04 AM UTC
Thanks Steffen. I'm glad you like it
Mike.
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:12 AM UTC
3 more days ! Man I wish I could start now ! I'm all set and ready to go for this one , even pick up new paints for this build .
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Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 02:43 AM UTC
Hi,
Just wondering if a Focke-Wulf Ta-152H would qualify?
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 02:07 AM UTC
Carl , Jesper is it alright to start now , it's the firt of Jan now !
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 11:13 PM UTC
Terri, sorry I only saw your post now. This campaign is now open. So take of in those Butcher birds
Mike, excellent ribbon. That looks great and very cool.
The TA 152 is a difficult one. It is definitely in the FW 190 family in my opinion, but under Kurt Tank's own name. However, I would approve it. After all we are here to have fun. I were actually considering entering one as my second build for this campaign.
Carl, has the final word in this as he is the Campaign Leader, but I think he will agree that it is part of the FW 190 family.
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2009 - 04:18 AM UTC
I am now glueing and painting. Don't bother me..................
.............sorry, thought I was talking to the wife for a second. uuhuum (clearing throat) I have now started my Butcher Bird. Will continue until finished, eventually.
Hermon
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to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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