Hi Jesper. I won't say "for sure" either, on this particular machine any case, but I've seen others with eagles head to port and just white outlines to starboard. The eagle was more or less just an extension of the black sections for exhaust gasses, as far as I can tell.

Box is like you say though, a little rattle and all falls together. It will be nice to follow yours, since I'm building the other one from this kit. We got different style though. I paint the pit in parts and assemble afterwards. I wouldn't even dream of trying to paint an assembled u/c-leg.

Good luck
Tony.

Hi Jesper

I can't specifically recall seeing any photos from the starboard side showing JG2 190s with the eagle motif, but I have seen a shot from starboard of Sigfried Schnell's A-4 with the rear part of the motif (the same design minus the eagle's "head" painted on the cowl).

I've been working a bit on my entry. This is the first Hasegawa 1/48 Wurger I've built, so I started with a comprehensive test-fitting (I don't like surprises). Here's a pic of where I am at this stage (I included, directly on the image for the sake of clarity, a few comments that prospective builders of this kit might find helpful) . . .

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This is a sweet kit! The engineering will be very familiar to anyone who's built the Trimaster/DML/Pro Modeler et al., but Hasegawa seem to have kept what's good about those kits while getting rid of a lot of their vices (much better fit at wing/cowl join, positive location of wingroots through a locking tab, detailed engine, etc.). I've always thought the Trimasters captured the look of the real plane really well, and the Hasegawa also seems true to that legacy.

By the way, I made a mistake on my initial post--this kit has markings for three "snazzy checkered cowl" marking schemes, not two.

automaton

Hi all!

OK, time to get the cat out of the box!

Here´s my build for the Campaign;

Eduard Fw190A-5;



I had a very hard time to decide which one of the markings to build as they are all interesting.
But I decided for this one, just because it´s a bit different, and I like yellow!





I have started the basic assembly, but no pics yet!

Cheers!

Stefan E

The diversity of markings on the same airframe is really going to make this campaign pop!
I only wish I had the time to join the fun. Maybe I'll get going next week.

Thanks for the comments on the JG2 eagle head markings, guys. I cannot decide what to do. Well, we will see how it turns out when I get around to painting.

Stefan, good choice of markings. I have this kit in my stash, so I will follow your build with interest.

Hi Jesper

I was looking through some references to see if I could find photographic documentation for the markings I want to use on my project, and happened upon this . . .



I don't know if this the same plane you're building, but it would seem to conclusively prove that at least some JG2 planes had the eagle on the starboard side.

Automaton

Looks like this campaign is going to have a lot of different schemes and variations represented.

Just a small update. My small and innocious upper respiratory infection has now become full-blown pneumonia. Looks like I will be away from the workdesk for at least another week. With any luck, I will be finishing off two other builds, then starting this one by the end of the month. I will try to peek in on this every day or two. My overprotective SWIMBO is not letting me do much else right now. Thanks for all your well wishes. I reall appreciate your concern.

Great picture, Automatron! Just what I need. Now I have a good excuse to to use those cool eagle markings on each side of the cowling. Thanks again

Carl, just focus on getting well. I will cover for you as second in command.

Hi Carl

Listen to SWMBO! Pneumonia isn't something to take lightly - a friend of mine caught it last autumn and ended up in hospital for weeks, then over-did things and had a relapse... he was basically ill for three months. He works freelance, so it completely scuppered his business and he's only just starting to put his life back together.

Take good care of yourself

Rowan

Hi Carl,

Take it easy and stay in bed. I'm sure you have enough books to keep you busy. The kits and Campaigns can wait...

Jean-Luc

Hi Carl

I totally agree with the others. Listen to your wife and to the doctors !! Stay in bed and let them do the work ....

take care of yourself!

all the best

Steffen

Carl:
Take care and prayers for a speedy recovery

Taylor

Yep, and here here. Will put in a word for you with the big man tomorrow at church Carl. Get back in that bed and don't monkey around about it.

Hermon

Carl . just focus on getting better . Your health is more important . We will all be thinking about you and sending out our best wishes on a speedy recovery .

Hi there

Well, shock, horror, I'm underway!:



I'm building Tamiya's Fw 190F for a little winter vignette. I'm using the decal option for this aircraft:



The basic camo's on and polished ready for decals. The thing is, everywhere I've found the well-known photo of the real aircraft in my references, it's described as "Black 9", but Tamiya depict it as a red number with a black outline. Messing about with the contrast in the photo, I can't see any sign of an outline, so I'm wondering if anyone knows of another photo of the same machine that might confirm this (or also show the other side of the fuselage)? I have decals for the black number from Kagero's book, so that's no problem, but Tamiya's "Red 9" would look rather nice.

I'm also trying to decide whether to extend the upper-surface camo a bit lower under the cockpit and rear fuselage sides, or whether the dark effect is just heavy exhaust staining and dirt. I think I might do a little bit of a re-spray before the decals go on.

Once the decals are done, I can start summoning up the courage to tackle that winter camo...

All the best

Rowan

Hi again

I made a decision and oversprayed some RLM 74 further down the fuselage sides, while keeping the paint chipping intact:



It looks a bit closer tonally to the photo. Interestingly, the yellowing effect also ties in with the practice of an RLM 02 overspray that's often described, so I guess it covers a couple of possibilities. Anyway, a lot of it will be hidden under white "squiggles".

I'll let the new paint dry, give it a coat of Klear and re-polish - and then it'll be time to take the plunge... Red 9 or Black 9?

All the best

Rowan

Hi Rowan

Very Nice!!!! seems you will finish a model ... which is a ridiculous and somehow scary thought

I know: "Wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen ...."

I am just rigging that darn Avia hope I get that project done soon to focus on nicer models.

cheers

Steffen

Hi Steffen

You've tempted fate now - there's still a long way to go on this one!

Do you have any idea on the "Red 9 / Black 9" question? - my instinct is to go with Ken Merrick et al and go for black, even though it's not as pretty.

Here's to good progress with your Avia - I'm looking forward to seeing it in all its heavily-weathered glory.

All the best

Rowan

Hi Rowan

sadly not, I would have answered immediately if I would know something. My knowledge (and library) on Schlachtflieger is rather scarce ...

cheers

Steffen

Looks good, Rowan. A very interesting aircraft with a daunting camouflage. The number on the fuselage is very difficult to judge. It looks like solid black, but it could be due to the low contrast in the photo.

Looking forward to see more

Merlin--I think you should go for the red 9. I don't think anyone here will give you a rough time. Besides--if you stare at the picture long enough--i think you can see the outline...........

If anyone gives you any lip about it--you can always take care of it with a permanent black magic marker...lol

Hi Rowan,

So you are building model kits.

Here's a picture I found. It won't help you much I think...





Every profile I found of your plane show it with a red 9. It means nothing but it sure looks better...

Jean-Luc

Rowan, I must agree with Patrick and Jean-Luc here. Red is the answer. If you have two choices and no real info to back anything up with why not go with the prettier.

Now, just don't take this as general wisdom. I've tried this approach on ladies too, but it's just so many other aspects there...

Looking great so far, though. I'm really curious about the squiggles.

Many thanks everyone

LOL! Jean-Luc, would you believe it - everything I've found says "Black 9" - except Tamiya!

I've done a higher res scan of my pic and compared the tone with the thin line in the spinner spiral, which Tamiya also show as red. Of course, then the question is "Was the inner spiral red?!" Tonally, it matches the yellow fuselage band! LOL!:



The numeral is much darker (the same as the fuselage cross) and I still can't see any outline, no matter how much I play with the contrast. Interestingly though, the small fuselage access panel seems to have been painted around - perhaps with primer? There also seem to be streaks of a mid-tone across the fuselage cross!? Maybe the camouflage was more unusual than any of the refs indicate...

So, I'll do one last hunt through my refs (I'm sure there are still some old books and mags I've missed), but - boring as it is - I think I'll probably go with black...

All the best

Rowan

Hi Rowan

not saying anything about red or not red, BUT

1. I think your approach to compare that very small line in full sunlight exposure on a white background with a fuselage number in the shadow on a dark background .. and all that from a scanned picture (probably from a printed source and not the original photo or negative?) must be wrong!

If you want to discuss this c&m in depth with experts (more or less), just go over to LEMB or 12 O'clock high.

2. I personally think you should base your decision on what unit this a/c belongs to and what colour(s) for that units fuselage numbers were used in that special time frame.

just my 2€ct

all the best

Steffen
P.S. ..yes, I am boring and a fun killer