Dwayne,

I'm gonna need the wrinkles because it isn't going to be factory fresh bird. One re-rig of the controls and you have wrinkles in that panel.

Having said that..........I have TRIED a couple of Gessa test panels......NOT on the SE but a parts bin participant. No pics yet as I don't want to embarrass myself too much...... Not sure how Gessa is Gonna worka. It DOES provide a good thick "goopy" paste of a paint that dries rapidly. I'm going to have to balance working with it soft vs more stiff.

Ill have to see how it sands when completely dry. May have to just shoot myself in the foot and go with "factory fresh"....

Report tomorrow.

Regards
Steve

Please don't shoot yourself in the foot ! It might hurt .

May not have to shoot myself in the foot after all Terri.

First test of the Gesso went .........ok.........not great but ok. I've never used this stuff before, so it's a learning experience. Once dried, found that alcohol brushed on the really lumpy surface disolves the Gesso in a controlled manner. So it acts like sand paper around the edges and forms some of the wrinkles.

Sprayed a thin coat of paint on it and it's ok...........not great but ok. Need to work on it some. Gonna try another test shortly. May photo this one.

Regards
Steve

Wrinkles............... Slathered on the Gesso (acrylics) to the SE5 panel............what a mess. But i THINK I like it. What i REALLY like, is if i don't like it, it comes off. Thats why I "slathered".

Wait till it drys and shape and smooth with alcohol.........real waste of good alcohol.......left with an empty can..........! If it doesn't look TOO awful, will post a pic later.

Regards
Steve

OK, a view of the "Slathering" of Gesso Acrylic paint.



After some smoothing by alcohol, I "threw" some primer on.............just so I could SEE where errors were. Found some.

I kinda like the 'wrinkles". I still need some work on the verticle framework that pushes against and shows through the linen. I tried to keep the whole "thing" rather subtle.



Comments?

Regards
Steve

By Jove I think he's got it!

Yes I think he has !
Steve the wrinkle effect turned out really well . With the weathering added to it afterwards it will stand out even better .

It looks like wrinkles to me. I do know what wrinkles look like these days.

Hi Steve, and Stephen,

These recent photos from New Zealand might be of assistance to you in finishing your builds. Both of which I'm (we're) eagerly following step by step.

http://rnzaf.proboards43.com/index.cgi?board=walkarounds&action=display&thread=7882

They were not taken by me, they were taken by a guy called Zac Yates.

Cheers

Nice wrinkles, I like that effect, very convincing. This technique was new to me, I´ll try that some day when I can open up my Se5a.

Cheers
Larsa Q

Richard,

Thanks for the SE5a walkaround link. Very good photos...............and some for areas that will help. Nice oil drips............Thank you.

Regards
Steve

The "Honey Do's" have been coming fast with Thanksgiving approaching. Have had to put the SE5 and the Abbie on the back burner.

Actually i think it's a fear of the rigging decisions that have to be made before i progress much farther. This is my fist "stringbag" and problemsolving the rigging is problematic. Dual wires?..........well the PART PE didn't come setup for dual lines. I have been back to problemsolving..............hmmmmm....maybe ignoring is a better word.

I'll sneak some work in this week and hopefully get a handle on the "rigging plan".

Larsa and his pre-shading have me wanting to skip the rigging and go to painting.........can't preshade until I "at least" have a rigging plan........

Regards
Steve

Hey Steve,

Having rigged about a dozen string bags now using various different methods, let me say that what ever method is your metier, they are all worse in the anticipation than in the execution.

If I were you, I would be using a method that can be easily redone if a particular line is slack or repaired if a breakage happens.

Not too many of us are going to be stressing if the flying and landing wires are not airfoiled in cross section in this scale... Lets face it, in anything under 1/24th, you are going to be hard pushed to see a difference anyways (I have read about builds using flat Orthodontic wire in 1/24).

I am 95% ready to post photos of my progress on the Hisso powered machine. I will be using straight forward 0.4mm zinc coated copper wire for the rigging. I have used same on a 1/48 Camel and it didn't look too out of place.

Get stuck in! And "Fill yer Boots man" as the Irish say.

Cheers,

Hugh

Got my 1/32 Spad VII today................stay-out!!!!!!!!!!! I peeked, but that's it.

Got a "Herd" on my hands here. They will be gone by weekend

Will be back to the SE5............

Have a happy Thanksgiving.......here in the USA.......for others.......have a great day! Eat hearty........

Regards
Steve

Nice wrinkles. Good to see at least one of my techniques work for others! Well done,
RAGIII

Rick,

Thanks............my 1/32 wrinkles are so-so. But, you are correct, the technique idea did come from your build.....I thank you. Now I have to use a technique "borrowed" from Stephen on the double wire bracket. Am pondering that issue on this about to be Turkey Day.

See Y'all this weekend.

Regards
Steve

Hi all, looks up embarassd at my join date and lack of posts but suffered some confusion long ago as I tried to join both this and armorama and was bounced...or so I thought.

Anyway, red faced and now I have broken the ice.

I am currently building the Viper SE5a and carved the wrinkles into the kit sides themselves with some degree of success.

Reading these posts and following th links has been invaluable resource.

Thanks guys and girls, I dont want to hijack this but may post a thread of my own.

Wonderful build too and I only hope mine turns out half this good

Welcome Keith. We will set another place at the mess table. Model On!

OK, I'm back............"keep Focus!"............"Keep Focus!". Hard to do this time of year. Have been looking at a lot of good "Stuff" coming on the market.............."Keep Focus"!!!!!!!

I was not happy with my "wrinkles"..........as this aircraft will be rather worn and well used. Not a factory fresh bird. If i couldn't make "pretend" wrinkles............I made "real" wrinkles. I used Bare Metal foil..........as thin as it is that was a fun chore..

Foiled, and primed..............now will ATTEMPT to get into Larsa's tape and shadow method.......STAY FOCUSED!!!!!!!!!!!





Regards
Steve

Wow. Interesting effect!

An idea to keep in the back of ones mind I think.

Cheers,

Hugh

Hi
Just remember to not use the first stripes cutted. This stripe is often bad, because it´s the cut off the tape.So a sharp and new blad and stealruler you can´t fail

I´ll be watching

Larsa

Foil ! , that's a good one Steve . It has a real nice effect to it . Stands out better .

Cheers !

Thank you Larsa............I will have a new blade and NO empty cans!

Terri.........thanks. Try wrinkling a piece of thin foil with a sticky side to it. I didn't get the wrinkles to flow as i wanted them to...........they flowed where they darn well wanted to. I'm happy with them as it is.

Regards
Steve

Hey Larsa..........got the first tape attached. All my aluminum cans are still full. My hat's off to you............this is a very time consuming process.

Good thing for hi-rez photos, I see that I am missing the right wing's leading edge tape.

My "plan" is to do a light misting of acrylic tan for shadow to hopefully give the underside of the wing some depth. The topcoat would be very thin.



And I've only started on the top of the wing..............and no, the Top Wing isn't in play yet. This is a LOT of tape.

Regards
Steve

Here are my "Larsa Technique" results. I wasn't happy with them until i took the tape off and i think i like the result. Thanks again Larsa for the technique. This comes nowhere near yours.





I guess I gotta tape the upper wing now.......

Anything to put off "rigging".

Regards
Steve